Pablo Torre: hints at Brunson and Knicks story circumventing the cap like Khawi and Clippers

[Kampuchea]

Now we wait for the punishment, lost draft picks I guess.

[gavran]

Now we wait for the punishment, lost draft picks I guess.

Punishment for what?

[RHODEY]

This article is from 2 weeks ago

Also, he isn't talking about the pay "cut", he specifically says "how Brunson arrived at the Knicks". He's talking about the tampering we did with Brunson's dad, which was already known about

And I'll say the same thing I said 2 weeks ago on the GB when this was circulating there. The Knicks having Brunson's father on the staff is in an entirely different world than Kawhi being paid under the table, and if you're gonna "investigate" that, you gotta "investigate" the Bucks for giving Thanasis a job

You'd need to prove Brunson was getting paid to do nothing like Kawhi was, or that the money he left on the table was going to his dad's salary, which would be easy enough to prove. But if you're conflating the two, giving up $100 million so your dad could have a job that pays at most like $3 million a year is just a dumb move.

Right.

Per ESPN's reporting today, Leonard and his uncle asked for:

-demanded LA trade SGA for Paul George

-an ownership stake in the franchise

-private jet, helicopter

-fully paid house, guaranteed off court cash

-establish a strict protocol with Leonard and how to communicate with him

-Leonard can skip media obligations and community events

-fire Bruce Bowen from the Clippers broadcast team

-no show job

Etc.

If the most that happened is tampering (lol) and Rick Brunson getting paid to be an assistant, that is literally nothing compared to the literal North Jersey mob style requests made by Leonard and Uncle Dennis.

Either way, Adam Silver better clean up his litter box.

Fire Bruce Bowen....what is he, the antichrist or somehing?

[MrDollarBills]

This article is from 2 weeks ago

Also, he isn't talking about the pay "cut", he specifically says "how Brunson arrived at the Knicks". He's talking about the tampering we did with Brunson's dad, which was already known about

And I'll say the same thing I said 2 weeks ago on the GB when this was circulating there. The Knicks having Brunson's father on the staff is in an entirely different world than Kawhi being paid under the table, and if you're gonna "investigate" that, you gotta "investigate" the Bucks for giving Thanasis a job

You'd need to prove Brunson was getting paid to do nothing like Kawhi was, or that the money he left on the table was going to his dad's salary, which would be easy enough to prove. But if you're conflating the two, giving up $100 million so your dad could have a job that pays at most like $3 million a year is just a dumb move.

Right.

Per ESPN's reporting today, Leonard and his uncle asked for:

-demanded LA trade SGA for Paul George

-an ownership stake in the franchise

-private jet, helicopter

-fully paid house, guaranteed off court cash

-establish a strict protocol with Leonard and how to communicate with him

-Leonard can skip media obligations and community events

-fire Bruce Bowen from the Clippers broadcast team

-no show job

Etc.

If the most that happened is tampering (lol) and Rick Brunson getting paid to be an assistant, that is literally nothing compared to the literal North Jersey mob style requests made by Leonard and Uncle Dennis.

Either way, Adam Silver better clean up his litter box.

Fire Bruce Bowen....what is he, the antichrist or somehing?

Bowen apparently was very critical of Leonard about how things ended in San Antonio

[RHODEY]

Right.

Per ESPN's reporting today, Leonard and his uncle asked for:



Etc.

If the most that happened is tampering (lol) and Rick Brunson getting paid to be an assistant, that is literally nothing compared to the literal North Jersey mob style requests made by Leonard and Uncle Dennis.

Either way, Adam Silver better clean up his litter box.

Fire Bruce Bowen....what is he, the antichrist or somehing?

Bowen apparently was very critical of Leonard about how things ended in San Antonio

ah ok...never knew Leonard was such a diva.

[Kampuchea]

Now we wait for the punishment, lost draft picks I guess.

Punishment for what?

Title of thread says Knicks circumventing cap like Clips and Kawhi.

[NoStatsGuy]

dont really care. im convinced this happens a lot in probably most pro sports. i fact im fairly certain stuff like this could have easily happened not only with brunson but also with mikal. The salary cap in itself is a good idea to keep competetive integrity. noone wants to be in a soccer situation, where clubs go into billions of dept to buy certain players.

but all this 1st and 2nd apron stuff and the restrictions are not the way to go i believe. It 100% incentivises shady business practices. As long as we dont get caught i dont care. Obviously it would suck if it comes out and we get punished.

[gavran]

Now we wait for the punishment, lost draft picks I guess.

Punishment for what?

Title of thread says Knicks circumventing cap like Clips and Kawhi.

I mean you should dive a tad bit deeper in the article then the title of this thread.

[Capn'O]

This article is from 2 weeks ago

Also, he isn't talking about the pay "cut", he specifically says "how Brunson arrived at the Knicks". He's talking about the tampering we did with Brunson's dad, which was already known about

And I'll say the same thing I said 2 weeks ago on the GB when this was circulating there. The Knicks having Brunson's father on the staff is in an entirely different world than Kawhi being paid under the table, and if you're gonna "investigate" that, you gotta "investigate" the Bucks for giving Thanasis a job

You'd need to prove Brunson was getting paid to do nothing like Kawhi was, or that the money he left on the table was going to his dad's salary, which would be easy enough to prove. But if you're conflating the two, giving up $100 million so your dad could have a job that pays at most like $3 million a year is just a dumb move.

Right.

We've been a little slick with Rick but there's no punishment for having a guy on staff who is paid commensurate for his position and was a legit coach elsewhere, nor for a son talking to his dad. It's gotta be more than that and there's no indication that there is more.

I'd say it's far less egregious than Bronny or Thanasis even. He was a fairly accomplished assistant before Jalen was even in the league and ran a college program.

[BKlutch]

Mark Cuban continues to paint a very different story of Ballmer really having been conned. I have no way of knowing if he is right, but he's continuing to present evidence. This quote is from Reddit and the pictures below are referred to in the quote. Maybe some lawyer around here could make more sense of all this.

Mark Cuban has obtained motions, lender-lawsuit transcripts, and testimony from Sanberg, his “co-conspirator,” and a lender. He then posted documents showing things “he didn’t know” — specifically, what Ballmer and Wong were shown when they invested in 2022-23:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1nlh2o6/mark_cuban_has_obtained_motions_lenderlawsuit/

Source: https://imgur.com/a/TBZNe5W

This has been like watching the first eps of a series to kill time, then really getting into it and binge watching
I went and got the motions, transcripts of the lender lawsuit, the transcripts of Sanberg and his co-conspirator and that of a lender. So far. Attached is stuff i didn't know.
The numbers are what ballmer and wong were shown when they invested in 22/23
One is the other crook saying he got a friend to give him 20m to put in, but did it in his own name (so when ballmer did his 10). As I get more I'll add more.

He then attaches 4 images below that show his findings
—

ELI5:

Aspiration was losing money but wanted to look important, so it showed Ballmer and Wong nice-looking numbers to convince them to invest. That made the company seem more legit than it really was. Behind the scenes, the people running Aspiration were secretly moving money around and not even telling investors the whole truth.

This helps push along Cuban’s narrative that Leonard, Ballmer, and Wong were all ensnared by Aspiration’s scheme rather than conspirators within it to commit cap circumvention since those within its own corporation didn’t know what was going on with high-level transactions such as the $20M one that was mentioned in the transcripts.

Edit: Victim was the wrong word, more like Cuban is implying Leonard was entangled/ensnared by Aspiration. Used as a piece to “legitimize” their scheme alongside the presences of the Clippers organization, Wong and Ballmer

Image 1: Cash Flow Statement
This shows Aspiration’s financials. They started the period with about $212 million in cash but burned through more than $100 million in nine months, ending with around $104 million left. Most of the losses came from operating costs.


Image 2: Investor Diligence Email
This is an internal email with questions from an investment firm and the company’s responses. It covers things like how much money had converted from the PIPE deal, whether certain shares were pledged, how they valued their carbon credit inventory, and upcoming debt deadlines.


Image 3: Deposition Transcript
This is part of a sworn testimony where a co-conspirator admits that instead of a lender investing directly into Aspiration, he had a friend give him $20 million and put it under his own name. The lawyer objects when more questions are asked about Aspiration.


Image 4: Deposition Transcript
This page of the transcript shows questioning about whether insiders told shareholders about an upcoming public auction of shares. The witness admits they were told not to notify anyone, and says that direction came from insiders like the board, the CEO, or possibly Sanberg.

[Clam Talking]

I’m looking into Pablo’s sketchy contract with ESPN.

[Clam Talking]

Was Pablo involved with Molly Qerim
being forced out by Stephen F? Inquiring minds want to know!

[Ray Williams]

If he had anything concrete he would have put it out already. If he’s trying to say his father making money as a coach is circumventing the cap that’s clown ****.

[nykballa2k4]

As an aside, it's always been unfair that teams like the Knicks and Lakers have to play under the same cap despite the state taxes being so high. Lakers get around it, you could see a trend of LA superstars and IMDB pages (Kazaam, Space Jam 2).