You tell 'em Zach!

[blueNorange]

Even if Z-Ro never played with another big man like Curry, he's right. Curry still gets his shots, just because he's too lazy to move around to get different positioning isn't Z-Ro's fault.

Curry is most likely gonna whine to Isiah that Z-Ro bad mouthed him to the media, I expect a Randolph benching against the Bulls.

[chitownsports4ever]

Q-Rich got a thigh injury.

Also, I think Zach should pull a Kobe and not look to score just to prove a point to his teammates. It sure would be funny.

or pull a big snacks and hurt his foot kicking the vending machine .I doubt they would cry.

[knicks742]

Q-Rich got a thigh injury.

Also, I think Zach should pull a Kobe and not look to score just to prove a point to his teammates. It sure would be funny.

I dont think anyone would mind to be honest. We still have Curry, Marbury and Crawford to score so not a big loss.

[Slimpack]

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I dont think anyone would mind to be honest. We still have Curry, Marbury and Crawford to score so not a big loss.

It might actually make the team better.

[moocow007]

Q-Rich got a thigh injury.

Also, I think Zach should pull a Kobe and not look to score just to prove a point to his teammates. It sure would be funny.

So becoming a black $13 million a season version of David Lee is going to prove a point with his teammates?

[knicks742]

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It might actually make the team better.

Actually I think thats what they want him to do, lol

[blueNorange]

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So becoming a black $13 million a season version of David Lee is going to prove a point with his teammates?

Lee is better looking than Randolph.

[ctorres]

Really, if I'm Zach, I try and get every offensive board and just pass the ball back every time. He should try racking up a bunch of assists.

[moocow007]

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Lee is better looking than Randolph.

That is true. Lee does havea really toight body.

[knicks742]

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That is true. Lee does havea really toight body.

He looked really good with his after shower hair.

*Faints*

[blueNorange]

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That is true. Lee does havea really toight body.

2 spelling errors, stop thinking of Lee's body.

[moocow007]

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He looked really good with his after shower hair.

*Faints*

Yeah... [starts flipping to my David Lee shirtless pic folder]

[madvillian]

LOL, I like how Z-Bo refers to Curry as a "dominant big man". What other dominant big man average 14pts, 6rbs and .8blk for their career?

Z-Bo needs to STFU too. He was 6/16 from the floor with 6 TOs and 1 assist. That means that Z-Bo had 23 possesions that ended with him. and only 7 of them resulted in points. That's horrible and it's no wonder he has a terrible +/-.

Ship his ass off to someone desperate like Chicago.

[RatherUnique24]

LOL, I like how Z-Bo refers to Curry as a "dominant big man". What other dominant big man average 14pts, 6rbs and .8blk for their career?

Z-Bo needs to STFU too. He was 6/16 from the floor with 6 TOs and 1 assist. That means that Z-Bo had 23 possesions that ended with him. and only 7 of them resulted in points. That's horrible and it's no wonder he has a terrible +/-.

Ship his ass off to someone desperate like Chicago.

Curry's last season numbers showed that he was, at least from last season, a dominate bigman. Curry's range is underneath the basket so he needs to demand the ball, and become the total focus of the offense. Zack has more tools to score the ball then Curry, however, he needs to stop turning over the damn basketball.

How many times are we going to talk about the lack of team chemistry and leadership? Eddy needs to man up and take control of the offense. We can't see him doing anything productive on the defensive side of the court but he should get his 20 points a game on %50 shooting.

[mildred]

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Curry's last season numbers showed that he was, at least from last season, a dominate bigman. Curry's range is underneath the basket so he needs to demand the ball, and become the total focus of the offense. Zack has more tools to score the ball then Curry, however, he needs to stop turning over the damn basketball.

How many times are we going to talk about the lack of team chemistry and leadership? Eddy needs to man up and take control of the offense. We can't see him doing anything productive on the defensive side of the court but he should get his 20 points a game on %50 shooting.

Can we stop calling Curry a dominant big man until he plays some big time defense. Please call him a dominant offensive big man in the future please.

[Cy32]

I've laughed ever since I've heard someone calling Curry a dominant big man as well. He hasn't dominated anything since he was drafted. I followed all his years with the Bulls. Why do you think they got rid of him after losing so many games to get high draft picks only to trade them all away including EC and JC.

Did you ever notice how EC can react to an offensive rebound but watches while much smaller players snares a defensive rebound. On defensive rebounds he stands flat footed and seems mentally slow to react. In the Chicago days anyway after a usually much shorter player snared the rebound you could see EC hesitate for a second like oh! and then one step behind everyone else would head to the other end of the court. It may be something he can't help as a person might be more mentally in tune to when to jump for your own missed shot, but he has to be prodded to consistantly do anything.

Here is the comparison of EC and ZR as compared to the top 48 players of each statistical category. There has to be a reason that EC has sat on the bench about half of his career and then he will wonder yet again why he doesn't make the all star team this year. He averages 14.5 points a game but hurts the team in that his efficiency scoring average is just 11.81 points because he has to many turnovers (would have more if he rebounded the ball more like ZR does) and doesn't rebound enough.

I'd take Zach Randolph over Eddie Curry any day.

Ranks #43 in the NBA in Points Per Game(17.7) EC not in the top 48
Ranks #10 in the NBA in Rebounds Per Game(10.4) EC not even in the top 48 which is unacceptable for a near 7 footer.
Ranks #48 in the NBA in Field Goals Made(198.0) EC not in top 48
Ranks #41 in the NBA in Field Goal Attempts(437.0) EC not in top 48
Ranks #19 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds(88.0) EC #36 (70)
Ranks #12 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds Per Game(3.1) EC #28 (2.3)
Ranks #20 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds(204.0) EC No where in sight. He reacts to OFRE but not DERE
Ranks #13 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds Per Game(7.3) EC Way down the list I'm sure
Ranks #19 in the NBA in Total Rebounds(292.0) EC Not on the radar
Ranks #12 in the NBA in Double-doubles(16.0) EC Not ranked-had (2) double doubles this year
Ranks #13 in the NBA in Field Goals Per 48 Minutes(10.33) EC #25 (9.99)
Ranks #8 in the NBA in Field-Goal Attempts Per 48 Minutes(22.81) EC
Ranks #46 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts Per 48 Minutes(6.84) EC #20 (8.49)
Ranks #23 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds Per 48 Minutes(4.6) EC #43 (3.9)
Ranks #13 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds Per 48 Minutes(10.6) EC Same
Ranks #12 in the NBA in Rebounds Per 48 Minutes(15.2) EC Not here either
Ranks #31 in the NBA in Points Per 48 Minutes(25. EC #46 (24.9)
Ranks #25 in the NBA in Total Turnovers(88.0) EC #48 (69.0)
Ranks #45 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking Per 48 Minutes(26.1) EC has a terrible efficiency rank for a big ave 14.5 but plays small eff 11.81
Ranks #17 in the NBA in Turnovers Per Game(3.14) EC #48 (2.23) Plays 5 less minutes than ZR
Ranks #10 in the NBA in Turnovers Per 48 Minutes(4.59) EC #30 (3.83) EC would have even more per 48 if he got a rebound once in awhile.

EC only ranks in two categories that ZR does not see below
Ranks #12 in the NBA in Field-Goal Percentage(0.537) ZR has a very acceptable % however
Ranks #40 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts(153.0) ZR does not rank in top 48

[StutterStep]

LOL, I like how Z-Bo refers to Curry as a "dominant big man". What other dominant big man average 14pts, 6rbs and .8blk for their career?

Z-Bo needs to STFU too. He was 6/16 from the floor with 6 TOs and 1 assist. That means that Z-Bo had 23 possesions that ended with him. and only 7 of them resulted in points. That's horrible and it's no wonder he has a terrible +/-.

Ship his ass off to someone desperate like Chicago.

You are correct ZBo had a terrible offensive night last night, especially with the turnovers.

BUT he got 22 rebounds! Though 4 of them were stolen from teammates, that still left 18 possessions he got for the team, and many of them from the offensive end.

So if you really watched the game closely, he mainly played like a true PF last night -- grabbing the boards and kicking it right back out.

Meanwhile Curry was ineffective past the moment Yao picked up two fouls. This was probably due to fatigue. Yes, fatigue! Dominant first 6 minutes then fade until he gets a late breather where he has one dunk.

Jamal Crawford did not bother show up. JC you are the shooting guard. Why not try running around the floor to get position? Instead he relishes the idea of being a COMBO guard, as in let me play the POINT and still takes the most shots.

Should I even mention QRich's game? Yeah, thigh injury! Sure that's what we're calling it these days.

[O Poutsokleftis]

He has a point- Curry can play his game with Randolph- they both need to adjust. I feel like Randolph is willing to adjust but Curry isn't.

[mildred]

[quote="Cy32"]I've laughed ever since I've heard someone calling Curry a dominant big man as well. He hasn't dominated anything since he was drafted. I followed all his years with the Bulls. Why do you think they got rid of him after losing so many games to get high draft picks only to trade them all away including EC and JC.

Did you ever notice how EC can react to an offensive rebound but watches while much smaller players snares a defensive rebound. On defensive rebounds he stands flat footed and seems mentally slow to react. In the Chicago days anyway after a usually much shorter player snared the rebound you could see EC hesitate for a second like oh! and then one step behind everyone else would head to the other end of the court. It may be something he can't help as a person might be more mentally in tune to when to jump for your own missed shot, but he has to be prodded to consistantly do anything.



I see this constantly in his game. I always found it puzzling how aggressive he was following up his misses yet was so passive on the defensive end. I've always wondered why a professional athlete would not try on both ends of the floor equally hard. Now, I don't expect that somebody has to play great on both ends but I do expect the effort on both ends.

I don't buy the assumption that Curry is lazy even though he looks like it on the defensive end. I think it's just that he has no defensive IQ. He is always focused on his man too much and not looking peripherally at the court. He can't judge from the shot where the ball has the highest % to go. He can't see a play developing. He stands too far under the basket. He always assumes somebody else will get the ball. The list goes on and on.

I believe teaching the IQ of basketball is a very difficult task. I think Curry's IQ is below zero ( lol ) so teaching him is near impossible. I just can't believe somebody can be that lazy, their has to more to it and I think IQ is THE ANSWER. This is why I say get rid of him as fast as you can before he continues to expose himself.

[CrazyEyes]

The thing with this whole Zach/Eddy debate is EVERY criticism you can level against Zach applies to Eddy too.

-Poor defense? Check. These two couldn't average 2BPG in the Special Olympics.
-Selfish? Check. I don't see Curry racking up the assists and refusing to rebound is the most selfish thing a basketball player can do.
-Ball hog? Check. Except with Curry he doesn't really want the ball -- he just expects to be force fed 20 times a game. Zach at least wants it.
-Turnovers? Check.