Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC

[GONYK]

I'm sure whenever Donnie is building a team, he has a special scout just for swag. You draft and trade based on ability, not flair.

my point is whether u like his "swag" or not he was the BPA....not jordan hill

No Collison or Lawson was BPA. Either way, you are right, it was not Hill, but it certainly wasn't Jennings either.

[RutgersBJJ]

Why is Gallo allowed room to grow after his sophomore season, and Jennings sucks after having a great Rookie Season?

your definition of great is questionable. 15.5 ppg on 14.8 shots per game. Shooting worse from 2 pt range than from 3 point range. The only thing good he did was not turn the ball over.

[ComboGuardCity]

And to GONYK, Monta has never led a team into the playoffs and performed on a high level when he got there. Jennings was 20 years old and he took that Hawks team to the brink. He took over games, as a Rookie. Monta's potential is no where near Jennning's. I think your'e misinterpreting what potential means.

I know exactly what potential means. Monta was a big part of the upset GSW had against Dallas. On top of that, Monta is 24, and has consistenly outperformed Jennings in every statistical category, is a much better defender, and just as fast.

Monta averaged 25/5/2 on 45% shooting, and a TS% of 52%. Why isn't he a superstar, but Jennings can be?

Monta has no point guard skills. He is the definition of a combo guard. He was not and will never be the main facilitator on the team. He was not a "main part" of that playoff run. Are you kidding me? Did you watch the series? The fact that you switched the argument from saying Jennings wouldn't be a better fit in D'Antoni's offense compared to Jordan Hill speaks volumes.

[dk7th]

Why is Gallo allowed room to grow after his sophomore season, and Jennings sucks after having a great Rookie Season?

jennings was handed the keys and gallo was frozen out-- sorry for the mixed metaphor. last year was really gallo's rookie season, unless you mean to say that 15 minutes a game for 27 games constitutes a rookie season?

you're handed the keys you reveal your game for better and for worse, you get frozen out you don't. we know far more about jennings than we do about gallo. we know that jennings resembles a classic tweener guard with the built-in liability on the defensive end, and we don't know if gallo is more than just a spot up shooter because for the first 65 games he was not integrally involved in the offense. but the last fifteen games he showed flashes of what kind of player he can become, which = "room to grow."

i saw jennings play against new jersey and he was horrible going up against a horrible player in harris. i didn't have an opportunity to see much at all of the hawks series but when you go up against bibby and crawford you are bound to score since they are both atrocious defenders. but jennings win? no. score? sure why not.

[Rasho Brezec]

Some of you people are so conservative and boring. I would hate to hang out with someone like that...those "politically correct" types. You guys just hate on Brandon Jennings because you dont like his personality. I say...you guys are boring and have no flare, no pizazz, no bravado, swagger, whatever you want to call it. I'd want a player with Jennings personality over the demure, unassuming, stoic Tim Duncan anyday of the week.

I bet Tim Duncan is much more interesting to talk to than Marbury 2.0. If not for anything else, just for the fact that he can actually form a coherent sentence.

[GONYK]

Monta has no point guard skills. He is the definition of a combo guard. He was not and will never be the main facilitator on the team. He was not a "main part" of that playoff run. Are you kidding me? Did you watch the series? The fact that you switched the argument from saying Jennings wouldn't be a better fit in D'Antoni's offense compared to Jordan Hill speaks volumes.

You mean Monta averaging 17/4/3/2 in his MIP winning season didn't contribute to all that much for them? You are right in the sense that his minutes got cut in the playoffs, so he didn't contribute as much, but he was a main part of that team, and a big reason why they were even in the playoffs.

I didn't switch anything. I stated why Hill was a fit given the situation around the draft. Then you said Jennings would fit perfect in SSOL, I said D'Antoni disagreed, you said Mike would take a superstar PG, then I began to question what makes Jennings anything close to a superstar. Keep up.

Jennings is really just a better passer than Monta, their recognition, while Jennings' is better, is not worlds apart like you are making it seem.

You are talking about Jennings like he showed Nash-like PG ability. Jennings is more like Jamal Crawford/Devin Harris.

[ComboGuardCity]

Monta has no point guard skills. He is the definition of a combo guard. He was not and will never be the main facilitator on the team. He was not a "main part" of that playoff run. Are you kidding me? Did you watch the series? The fact that you switched the argument from saying Jennings wouldn't be a better fit in D'Antoni's offense compared to Jordan Hill speaks volumes.

You mean Monta averaging 17/4/3/2 in his MIP winning season didn't contribute to all that much for them? You are right in the sense that his minutes got cut in the playoffs, so he didn't contribute as much, but he was a main part of that team, and a big reason why they were even in the playoffs.

I didn't switch anything. I stated why Hill was a fit given the situation around the draft. Then you said Jennings would fit perfect in SSOL, I said D'Antoni disagreed, you said Mike would take a superstar PG, then I began to question what makes Jennings anything close to a superstar. Keep up.

Jennings is really just a better passer than Monta, their recognition, while Jennings' is better, is not worlds apart like you are making it seem.

You are talking about Jennings like he showed Nash-like PG ability. Jennings is more like Jamal Crawford.

Monta is not a great three point shooter and has not shown any sort of leadership on and off the court. Maybe after his sophomore year, you could say he had superstar potential, but he did not polish his game enough to reach that potential.

At the moment, Jennings is as good as it gets from the 2009 draft class. If he continues to work on his game and leadership, he can one day be a superstar. That doesn't mean he will be, but he has the potential to be.

[Scalabrine]

I wish we had Steph Curry....

[GONYK]

Monta is not a great three point shooter and has not shown any sort of leadership on and off the court. Maybe after his sophomore year, you could say he had superstar potential, but he did not polish his game enough to reach that potential.

Jennings isn't a good 2pt shooter or defender. They each have their different strengths and weaknesses. Jennings leadership still remains to be seen. I will concede that Monta is no leader.

At the moment, Jennings is as good as it gets from the 2009 draft class. If he continues to work on his game and leadership, he can one day be a superstar. That doesn't mean he will be, but he has the potential to be.

Obviously Jennings is not as good as it gets, since Evans won ROTY. Also, Stephen Curry is better in nearly every way. Collison is a much better PG.

A superstar is a top 5 player in the entire league. You really see that for Jennings, even at his best? Was Marbury a superstar? He was better than Jennings and was the heart of that Suns team that almost took out the Spurs.

[FutureKnicksGM]

As much as I love his game. The tweets, the comments, the weird dancing. I just don't think would have been a good match. I think his mouth would have simply gotten him in too much trouble. Its cute in Milwaukee. But wouldn't go over well in NYC!

I'm pretty sure that he tweeted, made comments, and still danced weird before the draft and he ended up a top 3 rookie. So it's not like it stopped him on the court. So hell yeah he would have been good in NY.

[FutureKnicksGM]

This is more of a case of people not wanting to dwell on the past. Jennings would have been an excellent PG in D'antoni's offense.

If he was producing, you all wouldn't have minded his attitude either.

D'Antoni seemed to have disagreed.

But I guess Walsh would have agreed after seeing him play in summerleague when he then threw his scouts under the bus.

[GONYK]

But I guess Walsh would have agreed after seeing him play in summerleague when he then threw his scouts under the bus.

I know what Walsh said, but this is the same Walsh who saw Jennings 3 times, the last one being a private workout 2 nights before the draft. He knew what he was passing on.
Is Jennings better than Hill? No doubt.
Was he the BPA? No.
Was he the best PG available? Nope.

Jennings being better than Hill does not make him a real PG or the right PG for this team.

[ORANGEandBLUE]

Jennings is not Marbury 2.0. Marbury was a cancer, Jennings is a knucklehead. He has loose lips with the media. Marbury created rifts with teammates. What has Jennings done to create a problem with a teammate or coach? And don't say that he is selfish. It wasn't Marbury's game that made him a cancer, even if you want to call his style of play selfish. It was his disposition with players and undermining of coaches.

[GONYK]

Jennings is not Marbury 2.0. Marbury was a cancer, Jennings is a knucklehead. He has loose lips with the media. Marbury created rifts with teammates. What has Jennings done to create a problem with a teammate or coach? And don't say that he is selfish. It wasn't Marbury's game that made him a cancer, even if you want to call his style of play selfish. It was his disposition with players and undermining of coaches.

Marbs didn't do that as a rookie. Jennings is showing signs. That's all we are saying. Marbury's problem is that he blames others, never himself. Jennings is showing flashes of that with his Team USA comments.

[ORANGEandBLUE]

Ok, but the young Marbury could have gone in all sorts of directions and he ended up going the worst. Jennings is a risk but then again most young players are a risk in some sense. I mean, not to compare because I'd take both over Jennings, but Gallo and Randolph have raised concerns about whether they can stay healthy their whole careers. I would take Lawson or Collison first, but some people act like taking Hill over Jennings was addition by subtraction. Anybody see Bill Simmons' column today where he talked about Odom turning into a mature player?

[ORANGEandBLUE]

Also, let' not forget that most of the history we're comparing to is pre-twitter.

[GONYK]

Ok, but the young Marbury could have gone in all sorts of directions and he ended up going the worst. Jennings is a risk but then again most young players are a risk in some sense. I mean, not to compare because I'd take both over Jennings, but Gallo and Randolph have raised concerns about whether they can stay healthy their whole careers. I would take Lawson or Collison first, but some people act like taking Hill over Jennings was addition by subtraction. Anybody see Bill Simmons' column today where he talked about Odom turning into a mature player?

I get what you are saying, but I think people are fighting the notion that just because Hill was not the right pick, that means that Jennings was. He wasn't taken then because he was not a good fit for this team, and even if Hill busts out, there are other players that should have been taken before we even look at Jennings.

His skillset makes him a poor fit. His attitude only gives additional reasons not to take him.

[ComboGuardCity]

Ok, but the young Marbury could have gone in all sorts of directions and he ended up going the worst. Jennings is a risk but then again most young players are a risk in some sense. I mean, not to compare because I'd take both over Jennings, but Gallo and Randolph have raised concerns about whether they can stay healthy their whole careers. I would take Lawson or Collison first, but some people act like taking Hill over Jennings was addition by subtraction. Anybody see Bill Simmons' column today where he talked about Odom turning into a mature player?

I get what you are saying, but I think people are fighting the notion that just because Hill was not the right pick, that means that Jennings was. He wasn't taken then because he was not a good fit for this team, and even if Hill busts out, there are other players that should have been taken before we even look at Jennings.

His skillset makes him a poor fit. His attitude only gives additional reasons not to take him.

Collison is a turnover machine. Jrue, I think would make a great fit. However, I still don't see how Jennings doesn't fit. He's a quick PG who can put the ball in the basket. He may have shot the ball rather poorly as a rookie, but shot selection can be worked on. He's a young player. Not everyone has that Tim Duncan persona. Just because he has an eccentric personality, you shouldn't cross him off right away. Amare wasn't always that quiet warrior. He calls himself Black Jesus. Some guy called himself Starbury. How is that not cocky. orangeandblue brings up a good point too, twitter wasn't around when these older stars were growing up. Arenas was really the first player to use a blog regularly.

Randolph also has character issues. There is no denying that. Why is he in a Knick uniform.

[Capital Edge]

I can't believe some of these comments from you guys especially by those who said Felton was better than Jennings and they would pass on Jennings again if they had to do the draft second time around, lol. Raymond Felton is a bust and if he wasn't, he would be resigning w/ the Bobcats right now. He is in the same category as Mike Conley or Chris Duhon, and after the disaster you had last year at that position you will be sorry you didn't take Jennings. I don't agree some of the stuff he said or his actions but he is only 20 and still growing up.

[Capital Edge]

Ok, but the young Marbury could have gone in all sorts of directions and he ended up going the worst. Jennings is a risk but then again most young players are a risk in some sense. I mean, not to compare because I'd take both over Jennings, but Gallo and Randolph have raised concerns about whether they can stay healthy their whole careers. I would take Lawson or Collison first, but some people act like taking Hill over Jennings was addition by subtraction. Anybody see Bill Simmons' column today where he talked about Odom turning into a mature player?

I get what you are saying, but I think people are fighting the notion that just because Hill was not the right pick, that means that Jennings was. He wasn't taken then because he was not a good fit for this team, and even if Hill busts out, there are other players that should have been taken before we even look at Jennings.

His skillset makes him a poor fit. His attitude only gives additional reasons not to take him.

How do his skills make him a poor fit???? Why do you expand on that you moron?

THey didn't take him b/c ya boy Donnie didn't get a good look at him before the draft.