[Camelo Thread Part 17] - Denver makes trade offer p58

vallen · Post #101 » by **vallen** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:41 pm

kneega wrote:
vallen wrote:With Minny saying they wont trade Brewer, does this affect anything ?

Kahn admitted:

On the same day Carmelo Anthony said he'd consider signing a contract extension with the Denver Nuggets if they don't trade him, Timberwolves basketball boss David Kahn called his team's reported part in a three-way deal with Denver and New York involving Anthony "overstated."

Translated, that means an ESPN report last weekend that the Wolves would send a first-round pick and Corey Brewer to Denver to receive Knicks little-used forward Anthony Randolph and accept Eddy Curry's huge, expiring contract is too much to give.

"We were asked if there would be a way to participate in the event the other two teams could reach a deal and there likely could be," he said.

So to answer your question Vallen. No.

im not sure how any of that translates to a no. hes willing to sit in on a deal, but is |Denver still willing to deal since they wont be getting Brewer....

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... ars_Rumors

Jitpal · Post #102 » by **Jitpal** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:43 pm

Interesting. Tina Cervasio was interviewing Shawne Williams and he said that trade rumors were bothering the "rookies." Then he went on to say guys have never been through a trade so they don't know what to expect so it's on their mind. -Jitpal

czoneny · Post #103 » by **czoneny** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:44 pm

Jitpal wrote:Interesting. Tina Cervasio was interviewing Shawne Williams and he said that trade rumors were bothering the "rookies." Then he went on to say guys have never been through a trade so they don't know what to expect so it's on their mind. -Jitpal

Mozgov and Fields? I doubt Rautins cares he doesn't even get burn anyway -czoneny

vallen · Post #104 » by **vallen** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:46 pm

its pretty obviously affecting everyone, not just the rookies....

Jitpal · Post #105 » by **Jitpal** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:46 pm

czoneny wrote:
Jitpal wrote:Interesting. Tina Cervasio was interviewing Shawne Williams and he said that trade rumors were bothering the "rookies." Then he went on to say guys have never been through a trade so they don't know what to expect so it's on their mind. -Jitpal

Mozgov and Fields? I doubt Rautins cares he doesn't even get burn anyway -czoneny

Yeah, I think he meant Chandler, Gallo etc. too but didn't want to throw them under the bus. -Jitpal

Context · Post #106 » by **Context** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:47 pm

vallen wrote:
im not sure how any of that translates to a no. hes willing to sit in on a deal, but is |Denver still willing to deal since they wont be getting Brewer....

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... ars_Rumors

Who, outside of the "media" ever said that "Denver" wanted Brewer? That was my entire point of posting the Kahn quote. Minny + Curry= 3 million Luxury tax pool + the 13.1 million they won't have to pay in taxes- equals the real "value" that Minny brings to Denver. So again, No. :wink:

vallen · Post #107 » by **vallen** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:52 pm

kneega wrote:
vallen wrote:
im not sure how any of that translates to a no. hes willing to sit in on a deal, but is |Denver still willing to deal since they wont be getting Brewer....

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... ars_Rumors

Who, outside of the "media" ever said that "Denver" wanted Brewer? That was my entire point of posting the Kahn quote. Minny + Curry= 3 million Luxury tax pool + the 13.1 million they won't have to pay in taxes equals the real "value" that Minny brings to Denver. So again, No.

so forget media reports, your speaking for Denver that all they want is savings ??

hey good enough for me... :roll:

NJ_YANKEE_45 · Post #108 » by **NJ_YANKEE_45** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:55 pm

No Amar'e, so I bet that Donnie pulls the trigger on Melo very soon, because we're going to see what this team does without him.

Context · Post #109 » by **Context** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:02 am

vallen wrote:
so forget media reports, your speaking for Denver that all they want is savings ??

hey good enough for me...

Did Kahn the GM just confirm that they were asked to be involved in the three way deal? YES -Therefore, we can presume that it's a fact. Have you showed me any link/etc that supports that Denver wants Brewer? NO! Not to mention, Kahn is later quoted that they were not actively shopping Brewer. When you put it all together it's not "me" saying anything. :roll:

vallen · Post #110 » by **vallen** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:03 am

NJ_YANKEE_45 wrote:No Amar'e, so I bet that Donnie pulls the trigger on Melo very soon, because we're going to see what this team does without him.

if only it was just up to Donnie to pull the trigger...

vallen · Post #111 » by **vallen** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:06 am

kneega wrote:
vallen wrote:
so forget media reports, your speaking for Denver that all they want is savings ??

hey good enough for me...

Did Kahn the GM just confirm that they were asked to be involved in the three way deal? YES -Therefore, we can presume that it's a fact. Have you showed me any link/etc that supports that Denver wants Brewer? NO! Not to mention, Kahn is later quoted that they were not actively shopping Brewer. When you put it all together it's not "me" saying anything.

willing to be involved in a deal and actually getting a deal done is 2 completely different things. If Denver only wants savings then what are they holding out for again ?

it takes a lot to structure deal, Kahn saying hes a willing participant doesnt make anything a done deal jr...

Post #112 » by **knicks742** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:21 am

vallen wrote:
kneega wrote:
vallen wrote:
so forget media reports, your speaking for Denver that all they want is savings ??

hey good enough for me...

Did Kahn the GM just confirm that they were asked to be involved in the three way deal? YES -Therefore, we can presume that it's a fact. Have you showed me any link/etc that supports that Denver wants Brewer? NO! Not to mention, Kahn is later quoted that they were not actively shopping Brewer. When you put it all together it's not "me" saying anything.

willing to be involved in a deal and actually getting a deal done is 2 completely different things. If Denver only wants savings then what are they holding out for again ?

it takes a lot to structure deal, Kahn saying hes a willing participant doesnt make anything a done deal jr...

Do you honestly think that Brewer is the deal breaker? Seriously? All we are saying is that the main reason to bring Minny in is for the savings they can provide Denver. That's it. Not Brewer and not the pick. Denver will get the talent part of the deal from us not from Minny.

vallen · Post #113 » by **vallen** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:26 am

im just saying parts need to move, that are agreeable to everyone, in order to make any deal work....

im not buying into, "all we need is Minnys savings" .....no matter who the rumored player might be, bodys need to move....

rammagen · Post #114 » by **rammagen** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:29 am

I don't mind waiting for Carmello as he is a very good player. personally I would much rather move for a center and pg more then a wing player

Post #115 » by **knicks742** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:31 am

vallen wrote:im just saying parts need to move, that are agreeable to everyone, in order to make any deal work....

im not buying into, "all we need is Minnys savings" .....no matter who the rumored player might be, bodys need to move....

Minny is most likely getting Eddy and AR for the savings and maybe the Utah pick. I actually don't believe that Brewer was involved to begin with to be honest with you. From our perspective, the most valuable asset we are getting from such a trade would be the savings that we can provide to Denver. Something no other team can currently provide unless they involve a third party.

PrecociousNeoph · Post #116 » by **PrecociousNeoph** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:06 am

knicks742 wrote:
vallen wrote:im just saying parts need to move, that are agreeable to everyone, in order to make any deal work....

im not buying into, "all we need is Minnys savings" .....no matter who the rumored player might be, bodys need to move....

Minny is most likely getting Eddy and AR for the savings and maybe the Utah pick. I actually don't believe that Brewer was involved to begin with to be honest with you. From our perspective, the most valuable asset we are getting from such a trade would be the savings that we can provide to Denver. Something no other team can currently provide unless they involve a third party.

exactly. so many in the media been vastly underrating the massive cap relief we can provide.

Context · Post #117 » by **Context** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:10 am

knicks742 wrote:
Do you honestly think that Brewer is the deal breaker? Seriously? All we are saying is that the main reason to bring Minny in is for the savings they can provide Denver. That's it. Not Brewer and not the pick. Denver will get the talent part of the deal from us not from Minny.

My point exactly Knicks742... It was a pretty obvious point...

I can't wait for this deal to be completed :lol:

And Vallen, do me a favor- keep the little "jr" and "such" comments to yourself if you want to have a discussion with me- it's unnecessary and "baiting" to a degree :roll:

Jitpal · Post #118 » by **Jitpal** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:15 am

Atta boy Chandler. Increase that trade value. -Jitpal

NY2TheBay · Post #119 » by **NY2TheBay** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:33 am

No doubt this trade is affecting gallo, I can tell by the way hes playing tonight. I just hope Dolan doesnt mess up this trade by forcing it down donnie's throat. Also, I really like the prospects of shawne williams if gallo ends up getting traded, great find Donnie.

Context · Post #120 » by **Context** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:40 am

NY2TheBay wrote:No doubt this trade is affecting gallo, I can tell by the way hes playing tonight. I just hope Dolan doesnt mess up this trade by forcing it down donnie's throat. Also, I really like the prospects of shawne williams if gallo ends up getting traded, great find Donnie.

I agree that Gallo is affected and it's trickled down into his play. Unfortunately, that may be an indication that he's not as tough as I have always believed him to be... I'll stay tuned for further development :wink:

As far as Williams is concerned- if he would just play defense, shoot the three's and stay away from those mid range shots- I'm fine with him...