Around the nba part 7

[K_ick_God]

Wow I hate the Pacers too. George with his sniffing.

[egelband]

barnes has a clear case

erm...they were both going for a rebound. not even close to a foul. there is contact on a rebound. haven't the refs done enough to make this game close. ridiculous. and i'm rooting for the clips. it's so blatant...the nba has a lot of problems with fairness. but in this case, the no-call was the right call.

[Jezus]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuu- Those Indiana bastards actually beat LA Clippers! The hell. Granted the latter had been playing like bunch of idiots recently, but still this seriously sucks for us.

[StephNYKurry]

barnes has a clear case

erm...they were both going for a rebound. not even close to a foul. there is contact on a rebound. haven't the refs done enough to make this game close. ridiculous. and i'm rooting for the clips. it's so blatant...the nba has a lot of problems with fairness. but in this case, the no-call was the right call.

Barnes became a shooter once he possessed the rebound and was fouled subsequently. Should have been an And 1

[NYKMentality85]

Outstanding come from behind effort from LAC but they came up just short. The refs really did screw over LAC tonight. I mean, Barnes was clearly fouled on his put-pack in which would've sent him to the line for a 3 point play with a chance to tie up the game. No call. That's the NBA for ya and LAC did leave too many plays on the court.

And for those giving the Pacers the two seed? Think again. They aren't even 1/2 a game ahead of us. More like .1 of a percentage point. .640 vs. .639.

[Knicks_Fan2]

that was actually a good shot given the circumstances

Yep, too bad Lamar Odom was put in that position on that play. He's a god awful 3 point shooter.

[E86]

barnes woulda missed the freethrow anyway. bench shoulda left sooner. del negro is a scrub.

[Knicks_Fan2]

barnes woulda missed the freethrow anyway. bench shoulda left sooner. del negro is a scrub.

I HATE WHEN COACHES DO THAT when their bench plays well. No lineup can sustain that for more than 8 minutes.

[Quick Kick]

Lin: 19pts, 11asts, no need Harden, no need Parsons, no need to play 4th quarter

Haters!! Where you at?? LINSANITYYYYYYY!!!!

You and Quick Kick man....SMFH

Yoooo

wtf

I aint even say nothing about that bum! I've been quiet about him for weeks now in fact. Leave me out of this. BUT since you dragged me into this.....sheeeeeit, I can probably drop 19 and 11 on the Magic. They sorry as a muthaphukka and the tank brigade is in full effect round them parts.

[Quick Kick]

VDN with the late timeout lol.

This guy is an ass clown.

For all the critiques of our team, the Pacers are just a 3-point bombing team really. Better D, fewer stars, they don't really have PG play. Not really suited to the playoffs IMO but they did fine last year.

Man, I hate when people say Indy did well last year. Who did they beat in the 1st round? A Dwight-less Orlando team? Then they won 2 games against Miami who were without Bosh, then soon as Bosh came back they straight beat the brakes off of Indy for 3 straight games.

2nd seed or 3rd seed, IDGAF, I know we can beat them in a series, with or without homecourt.

[NoLayupRule]

damn

I got all excited there for a min thinking the clips might pull that one out


I gotta say, the Pacers are for real

I dont want to see them without home court


the game vs Indy at the Garden in a few weeks is gonna be heated!!!

[NoLayupRule]

VDN with the late timeout lol.

This guy is an ass clown.

For all the critiques of our team, the Pacers are just a 3-point bombing team really. Better D, fewer stars, they don't really have PG play. Not really suited to the playoffs IMO but they did fine last year.

Man, I hate when people say Indy did well last year. Who did they beat in the 1st round? A Dwight-less Orlando team? Then they won 2 games against Miami who were without Bosh, then soon as Bosh came back they straight beat the brakes off of Indy for 3 straight games.

2nd seed or 3rd seed, IDGAF, I know we can beat them in a series, with or without homecourt.

yeah but this year west has improved and George has really come into his own

indy is tough

[daschysta]

VDN with the late timeout lol.

This guy is an ass clown.

For all the critiques of our team, the Pacers are just a 3-point bombing team really. Better D, fewer stars, they don't really have PG play. Not really suited to the playoffs IMO but they did fine last year.

Man, I hate when people say Indy did well last year. Who did they beat in the 1st round? A Dwight-less Orlando team? Then they won 2 games against Miami who were without Bosh, then soon as Bosh came back they straight beat the brakes off of Indy for 3 straight games.

2nd seed or 3rd seed, IDGAF, I know we can beat them in a series, with or without homecourt.

Are you not aware of how well Hibbert is playing now that his wrist is healthy? He's averaging over 20-10 with 3.5 blocks per 36 since all-star break. With he and West they have amazing post up game and just a great front court in general. They aren't a team that relies on bombing 3 pointers at all, not even close, where in the world did you get that? Pacers attempt 19.5 3 pointers a game, the knicks? 28.7 It isn't even close.

[Quick Kick]

thats great for Hibbert. I still believe he's one of those guys who can play well in the regular season, then when the game slows down and the pressure is on in the playoffs, he turns into a 7'6 oaf with hands made of margarine.

George is great, but he's mad young, and I dont think he's experienced enough, or great enough (YET), to carry his team past a playoff team loaded with talent and veteran savvy.

David West hasn't done anything meaningful in the playoffs since George Bush was president. He's not a threat at all.

[daschysta]

thats great for Hibbert. I still believe he's one of those guys who can play well in the regular season, then when the game slows down and the pressure is on in the playoffs, he turns into a 7'6 oaf with hands made of margarine.

George is great, but he's mad young, and I dont think he's experienced enough, or great enough (YET), to carry his team past a playoff team loaded with talent and veteran savvy.

David West hasn't done anything meaningful in the playoffs since George Bush was president. He's not a threat at all.

Pacers beat Miami by a combined 68 points over 6 games when Hibbert was on the floor. He's a difference maker on both ends, post-season or regular season.

[Quick Kick]

Miami beat Indiana by a combined 4 games in comparison to their 2 (both of which they won when Bosh wasn't there). Hibbert doesn't change jack.

[daschysta]

Miami beat Indiana by a combined 4 games in comparison to their 2 (both of which they won when Bosh wasn't there). Hibbert doesn't change jack.

Miami winning the series doesn't change the fact that the Pacers won by a significant margin while Hibbert was on the floor. He doesn't play massive minutes, and the counterfact is that Miami beat Indiana by more points when Hibbert was on the bench than the Pacers won by when Hibbert was on the floor, but he's clearly a huge difference maker.

[NYKMentality85]

I agree. The Pacers once had an anemic offense, but that struggling offense is no longer. Since the All-Star break (22 games) they've averaged 100.5 points per game. Exactly how strong has 100.5 points per game been? Top 10. Lets just say that the Los Angeles Clippers are ranked 9th with 100.6 points per game while our Knicks rank 11th at 99.4 points per game. So as you can see they may not be OKC or Miami but there offense does have potential. Paul George, David West, George Hill and Roy Hibbert can all score the rock. And Tyler Hansbrough can also score down low due to being one of the scrappiest/hard working big men in all of basketball. Lance Stephenson can get wet from time to time as well.

But Indiana's offense isn't what makes this team (potentially) deadly. They have the potential to become down right nasty come playoff basketball and it's their ability to defend, keeping points off the board while rebounding strong off the boards. These guys are true Eastern Conference contender. They are not to be overlooked and home court advantage could become more pivotal than some may think come a potential second round matchup against these guys.

On the season they've only allowed 89.7 points per game. Good enough to rank 1st in all of basketball. They've held opponents to an average field goal percentage (against) of only .415%. Once again, good enough to rank 1st on the defensive end. They've held opponents to only .322 shooting beyond the arc (3PT) which is yet again, good enough to rank 1st in all of basketball. They're also monsters off the glass. Very strong down low would be considered an understatement. They rank 1st in total rebounds at 46.4 boards per game and Indiana also lead the entire league in rebound differential by a large margin at +406 on the season while Memphis is ranked second only at +278 (which is still pretty damn good). Our Knicks? We only have a -68 rebound differential in comparison.

It's never written in stone and doesn't decide which teams will win an NBA championship but the easiest way to differentiate the contenders from the pretenders? It's a simple logic, but it's point differential. That's something my grandfather (was once a huge basketball nut) taught me many of years ago, and it's stuck with me while I break down teams in my own mind. OKC (+9.1). Miami (+8.0). San Antonio (+7.6). LAC (+6.1) while Indiana ranks 5th at +5.2 per game. The bottom 5 teams are Sacramento (-4.7), Detroit (-5.0), Phoenix (-6.5), Orlando (-6.6) and Charlotte (-9.6).

What makes Indiana's record of 16-6 dating back to the all-star break so respectable is their point differential of +10.6. Lets just say that the Oklahoma City Thunder lead the entire league with a differential of +9.1. Indiana has not only gone 16-6 dating back to the all-star break but they've been stomping mud holes with a differential of +10.6 dating back to the all-star break.

The Pacers just like our Knicks, are truthfully peaking at the right time. This team is a contender who plays amazing defense, rebounds as strong as they come off the boards and also has an offense with overall potential. Knicks vs. Indiana come the second round is something that I'm looking forward to as a New York fan. Memories of the 1990's and home court advantage could become pivotal during a seven game series against these guys.

[Quick Kick]

TL; DR like a mawfugga, breh.

[NYKMentality85]

TL; DR like a mawfugga, breh.

I do apologize for the long winded post. Was only trying to add a little insight and/or actual statistics when breaking down Indiana's team since it's not something we dissect all that much. Here are the cliff notes and maybe you'll take note or at least read.

Since the All-Star break (22 games) they've averaged 100.5 points per game. Top 10. They've also gone 16-6 since the All-Star break.

On the season they've only allowed 89.7 points per game. Good enough to rank 1st in all of basketball. They've held opponents to an average FG% (against) of only .415%. Once again good enough to rank 1st on the defensive end. They've held opponents to only .322 shooting beyond the arc (3PT) which is yet again, good enough to rank 1st in all of basketball.

They rank 1st in total rebounds at 46.4 boards per game and Indiana also lead the entire league in rebound differential by a large margin at +406 on the season. Our Knicks? We only have a -68 rebound differential in comparison.

Indiana ranks 5th in point differential on the season but dating back to the all-star break they're featuring a differential of +10.6. Good enough to rank 1st in all of basketball.

These guys are true Eastern Conference contender. They are not to be overlooked and home court advantage could become more pivotal than some may think come a potential second round matchup against these guys.