Sources say LeBron to seek Max Deal

[K_ick_God]

this is really interesting. why did wade and bosh each walk away from the money then? I'm curious to know what's going on there...

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Something stinks in South Beach

Could be something called panic. The equivalent of running around screaming when your hair is on fire.

[suicidedeuce]

LeBron 20
Melo 19
Wade 9
Holds 4M
M.Gasol 14M

That no good?

(And none of your lame efforts here change the fact that you were wrong earlier today.)

The day you can cite an NBA being punished for having a gentleman's agreement with a player, let me know.

[GONYK]

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Something stinks in South Beach

Could be something called panic. The equivalent of running around screaming when your hair is on fire.

Why would Bosh and Wade panic themselves into less money?

[AmazingJason]

Gasol/Melo/LeBron makes our old big 3 of Tyson/Amare/Melo look like a joke

[Red Vines]

Lebron is tired of pretending to be in the same ballpark as other players. When Wade and Bosh were Wade and Bosh it made more sense, now he's carrying the load and anyone who wants to play with the best player on the planet will get whatever they get, not his concern.

[NYKNICKPLAYA]

Would the Sixers do---Hardaway, and Amare to the Sixers for a 2nd round pick? They could then cut Amare and "double tank", and they get a stud prospect.

I'm pretty sure they would, but we'd have to also find someone to absorb Bargnani.

[suicidedeuce]

Would the Sixers do---Hardaway, and Amare to the Sixers for a 2nd round pick? They could then cut Amare and "double tank", and they get a stud prospect.

I'm pretty sure they would, but we'd have to also find someone to absorb Bargnani.

Well, since Philly is cutting Stat, might as well send Bargani there too, right?

[K_ick_God]

LeBron 20
Melo 19
Wade 9
Holds 4M
M.Gasol 14M

That no good?

(And none of your lame efforts here change the fact that you were wrong earlier today.)

The day you can cite an NBA being punished for having a gentleman's agreement with a player, let me know.

You said Wade will not play for a lot less with Bron at a Max, and now you have him at 9 lol? You said that like 5 minutes ago. Now you have him at 9, just to win an argument with someone you don't even know. I love it!

You let me know when you get someone with a legal degree or a grain of common sense to agree with you that an audio recording of someone breaking the rules is perfectly fine as long as it's not an unenforceable written contract.

Good day to you professor. My honest advise to you, in the spirit of sports ... You can't win them all, and there's always tomorrow, you'll get 'em next time.

[NYKNICKPLAYA]

Would the Sixers do---Hardaway, and Amare to the Sixers for a 2nd round pick? They could then cut Amare and "double tank", and they get a stud prospect.

I'm pretty sure they would, but we'd have to also find someone to absorb Bargnani.

Well, since Philly is cutting Stat, might as well send Bargani there too, right?

I think they have 33 Million to spend, so I guess they could. How much would we have to entice them...would THjr be enough to entice them to take on the salaries, and not sign ANYONE else. Got to think they would at least like to hand out a couple million to a semi-young player to take a chance on, or something like that.

[K_ick_God]

Something stinks in South Beach

Could be something called panic. The equivalent of running around screaming when your hair is on fire.

Why would Bosh and Wade panic themselves into less money?

That's my point. I don't buy that they did. Riley obviously had to make them an assurance that he wouldn't low-ball them or go below some cutoff in order to get them to opt out. I believe it's very possible in fact that he offered them a return at the very same contract if they opt out, so as to essentially extend their date for opting out. They can veto the proposal and still get back all OR MOST ALL of the money lost.

No way the agent lets them opt out without SOME assurance (like you won't um waive Wade, which would be in the Heat's best interest) ... so the question becomes HOW much of an assurance, what were the parameters of such assurance. We don't know. But I would think that it's impossible that any agent did this accepting a lot of risk.

In fact they both have the same agent and he is not gambling with $84 million.

[Greenie]

Why are people feeling the need to chime in with the whole "he deserves it" thing? We know he deserves it, he deserves more than the NBA max can give him but its becoming borderline impossible to win Championships with max players and the whole point of them opting out was to take less to bring others in. If Bron takes a max, it cancels out any savings Bosh and Wade would give them and they're stuck with the same team as last year in theory.

If James is seeking the max, I highly doubt Wade is going to re-up for as little as people think he will.

If nothing else, this might do wonders to put an end to the narrative that the new paradigm in the NBA is stars teaming up and leaving money on the table. Miami might have been a one-time thing, not the new rule.

yep

That **** is over

[NYKNICKPLAYA]

Good point Knicksgod. Got to wonder what will happen.

Common sense would say, just let Wade or Bosh go, and sign Melo. Or Lowry even is probably better than Wade or Bosh.

[suicidedeuce]

You said Wade will not play for a lot less with Bron at a Max, and now you have him at 9 lol? You said that like 5 minutes ago. Now you have him at 9, just to win an argument with someone you don't even know. I love it!

Its called a conditional argument, I'm playing by your rules, which seems to be the NY Knicks are in much better position than the Miami Heat right now. The point is, anything YOU can imagine the KNicks pulling off, the Heat are in a position to do as well.

Me? I got James, Wade and Bosh all going back to Miami.

You got Stat going to Orlando, Bargani going somewhere, James coming here the the Knicks at a discount, Melo coming back at an even steeper discount. And Gasol maybe coming next here at an even greater discount.

Good day to you professor. My honest advise to you, in the spirit of sports ... You can't win them all, and there's always tomorrow, you'll get 'em next time.

So then I'm sure you'll take your own advice and get back to me when the NBA actually disciplines anyone for a a verbal "violation".

Unless of course, there's never been any of those in the NBA.

[NYKNICKPLAYA]

But Knicksgod--- isn't Lebron esentially, all of their agents. If I were Lebron, I'd say, just low ball Bosh and sign Melo.

[K_ick_God]

Why are people feeling the need to chime in with the whole "he deserves it" thing? We know he deserves it, he deserves more than the NBA max can give him but its becoming borderline impossible to win Championships with max players and the whole point of them opting out was to take less to bring others in. If Bron takes a max, it cancels out any savings Bosh and Wade would give them and they're stuck with the same team as last year in theory.

If James is seeking the max, I highly doubt Wade is going to re-up for as little as people think he will.

If nothing else, this might do wonders to put an end to the narrative that the new paradigm in the NBA is stars teaming up and leaving money on the table. Miami might have been a one-time thing, not the new rule.

yep

That **** is over

lol. This was it. Then he followed it with Wade at 9 to try to eke out a debate victory. I still love it.

[god shammgod]

i think lebron is just a little mad at management there but he dosen't want to leave. they took less to join up there and after delivering 2 championships management decided to penny pinch. now his attitude is, get some pieces and give me all my money.

[Rasho Brezec]

Would the Sixers do---Hardaway, and Amare to the Sixers for a 2nd round pick? They could then cut Amare and "double tank", and they get a stud prospect.

I'm pretty sure they would, but we'd have to also find someone to absorb Bargnani.

Of course someone that comes up with that kind of proposal would be talking to himself.

[NYKNICKPLAYA]

Would the Sixers do---Hardaway, and Amare to the Sixers for a 2nd round pick? They could then cut Amare and "double tank", and they get a stud prospect.

I'm pretty sure they would, but we'd have to also find someone to absorb Bargnani.

Of course someone that comes up with that kind of proposal would be talking to himself.

What's wrong with Amare, THjr for a 2nd round pick? Helps us get towards cap space, and helps Sixers with tanking, and gives them a nice prospect to build with.

Edit, and LOL about talking to myself...haha, true!

[K_ick_God]

But Knicksgod--- isn't Lebron esentially, all of their agents. If I were Lebron, I'd say, just low ball Bosh and sign Melo.

No, I'm saying that it's highly unlikely that Bosh and Wade's agent opted out UNLESS Riley said "You can always get back the current agreement" OR SOMETHING SIMILAR -- it just buys Riley time to work and those guys are keeping an open mind.

Riley could not lowball Bosh or Wade without violating his agreement with the agent.

Rasho is right that Bosh could get a good offer from somewhere else now, and that would be the best win-win for the Heat. Although they'd still be stuck with Wade.

[K_ick_God]

i think lebron is just a little mad at management there but he dosen't want to leave. they took less to join up there and after delivering 2 championships management decided to penny pinch. now his attitude is, get some pieces and give me all my money.

Which may be impossible though. Then what?