Clyde on Melo: "Will he ask out?"

[Sark]

if we trade melo to the heat we better get bosh or wade back in return if not then **** off

Why would Melo want to go there, if not to play with those 2? He says no to the trade if either of those guys are part of the deal.

[And100]

if we trade melo to the heat we better get bosh or wade back in return if not then **** off

Well damn, I'm just bored guys relax. As far as the trade no way we offer more than that. If its any consolation a lot of guys on the Heat board felt that even that was too much to give up on the Heats end so yeah…

And that's why universally every fan trade proposal ever conceived sucks.

[3toheadmelo]

sorry im honestly just tired of seeing these melo trade scenarios

[3toheadmelo]

if we trade melo to the heat we better get bosh or wade back in return if not then **** off

Why would Melo want to go there, if not to play with those 2? He says no to the trade if either of those guys are part of the deal.

why would phil trade melo for nothing. if we're trading him we better get an all star in return

[Thugger HBC]

if we trade melo to the heat we better get bosh or wade back in return if not then **** off

Why would Melo want to go there, if not to play with those 2? He says no to the trade if either of those guys are part of the deal.

why would phil trade melo for nothing. if we're trading him we better get an all star in return

Why would a team trade their all star for Melo? He's certainly worth it depending on the player in question, but why would any team actually do it? They'd be in the same boat before they made the trade.

Melo isnt gonna be an easy player to trade because he can dictate where he goes, and thats assuming he'd ever want to leave, which I doubt seriously.

But if he ever asked out, or agreed, the Knicks would quite likely get close to nothing of value for him. Contenders dont have the pieces and non contenders have no leg in handing over good assets for a player they wont be receiving.

[Thugger HBC]

As far as the thread goes, these are is the golden nuggets imo....

Q: What did you think of what the Knicks did this offseason?

A: I think $30 million obviously doesn't get you what it used to. So I think they did the best they could with the hand they were dealt. So they had an option: try to get superstars or try to build like Atlanta has done without superstars -- like Toronto, like Washington. Some teams in the Eastern Conference have had success with that. So I think that's what their game plan is right now: Try to get some good players and then maybe later on try to get a superstar.

Q: The Knicks drafted Kristaps Porzingis, a guy who is a couple years away from being able to help you win night in and night out. Then there's Carmelo Anthony, who is 31 and here for another four years. How does he fit in because it seems like they are looking at a future that might not fit within his window?

A: I'm sure Melo wasn't happy. His future is now. You know, he’s not getting younger. This is going to be a pivotal season for him to see really how he fits into the Knick plans and how this is going to go from here. Will he ask out, you know what I mean, if he sees that this is not happening? Because right now the Knicks, [it's] going to be tough to make the playoffs. They are a few years away and Melo knows that his days are numbered, so stay tuned.

Interesting how Clyde views the acquisitions and the Knicks plans concerning Melo. Not sure what hand they were though, the slate was virtually clean, and this team doesnt look like a playoff team at all.

[ozwizard8]

Until Melo asks for a trade and waives the NTC it's a masturbatory exercise. He's not going anywhere yet. If/when he does waive, the teams' situations may have changed.

we're fine now and we'll try to get playoff spot. i think we'll make playoffs.
if things go wrong then we'll talk trades.

getting good value from melo trade is hard.
someone proposed:
beal+nene+1st round for melo
it may be fair trade but melo wouldnt go to wizards if they only have j.wall.

MELO TRADE REQUIRES:

-trade partner team to preserve contending roster after trade.
-getting young assets/picks.

Melo can go to Miami but we cant get more than h.whiteside? or future(2018-2020?) late 1st rounders. so it wont happen.
Bulls may send some future 1st+gibson but it wont enough for us.

i believe best trade partnert would be CAVS.
k.love didnt played good. his presence doesnt bring any positive impact for cavs. inefficient scorer/bad defender.
lebron likes to play at 4 in playoffs anyway. get melo and use them both would be crucial.
lebron-melo forward duo would be unstoppable. Team USA kind dominating force.

cavs can trade k.love for melo.
i dont want k.love in knicks anyway. so lets make 3 team deal and sell k.love to celtics.
celtics offered 4 picks for j.winslow. white Franchise player K.Love with multi-year deal is what they want desperately.
they'll give at least 3-4 1st rounders+ 1-2 young asset players.

cavs get melo
celtics get k.love
knicks get 4 future 1st(include nets picks) + d.lee(salary matching)

[JXL]

As far as the thread goes, these are is the golden nuggets imo....

Q: What did you think of what the Knicks did this offseason?

A: I think $30 million obviously doesn't get you what it used to. So I think they did the best they could with the hand they were dealt. So they had an option: try to get superstars or try to build like Atlanta has done without superstars -- like Toronto, like Washington. Some teams in the Eastern Conference have had success with that. So I think that's what their game plan is right now: Try to get some good players and then maybe later on try to get a superstar.

Q: The Knicks drafted Kristaps Porzingis, a guy who is a couple years away from being able to help you win night in and night out. Then there's Carmelo Anthony, who is 31 and here for another four years. How does he fit in because it seems like they are looking at a future that might not fit within his window?

A: I'm sure Melo wasn't happy. His future is now. You know, he’s not getting younger. This is going to be a pivotal season for him to see really how he fits into the Knick plans and how this is going to go from here. Will he ask out, you know what I mean, if he sees that this is not happening? Because right now the Knicks, [it's] going to be tough to make the playoffs. They are a few years away and Melo knows that his days are numbered, so stay tuned.

Interesting how Clyde views the acquisitions and the Knicks plans concerning Melo. Not sure what hand they were though, the slate was virtually clean, and this team doesnt look like a playoff team at all.

So back to louieOrr, what HBC said is truth. Do you still think the system will put the Knicks within striking distance of the 8th seed?

[louieOrr]

As far as the thread goes, these are is the golden nuggets imo....

Q: What did you think of what the Knicks did this offseason?

A: I think $30 million obviously doesn't get you what it used to. So I think they did the best they could with the hand they were dealt. So they had an option: try to get superstars or try to build like Atlanta has done without superstars -- like Toronto, like Washington. Some teams in the Eastern Conference have had success with that. So I think that's what their game plan is right now: Try to get some good players and then maybe later on try to get a superstar.

Q: The Knicks drafted Kristaps Porzingis, a guy who is a couple years away from being able to help you win night in and night out. Then there's Carmelo Anthony, who is 31 and here for another four years. How does he fit in because it seems like they are looking at a future that might not fit within his window?

A: I'm sure Melo wasn't happy. His future is now. You know, he’s not getting younger. This is going to be a pivotal season for him to see really how he fits into the Knick plans and how this is going to go from here. Will he ask out, you know what I mean, if he sees that this is not happening? Because right now the Knicks, [it's] going to be tough to make the playoffs. They are a few years away and Melo knows that his days are numbered, so stay tuned.

Interesting how Clyde views the acquisitions and the Knicks plans concerning Melo. Not sure what hand they were though, the slate was virtually clean, and this team doesnt look like a playoff team at all.

So back to louieOrr, what HBC said is truth. Do you still think the system will put the Knicks within striking distance of the 8th seed?

I respect HBC opinion, and yours as well, but its not truth until it happens.

To answer your question if our roster stays healthy enough I have the expectation to compete for the playoffs and exceed expectation until proven otherwise.

Ive just been saying that there is no body of evidence to conclude the game has passed Jackson or his system by.

No I don't think Phil has tailor made his team in one year as President. I haven't seen many Prez/GM that have.



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[3toheadmelo]

Why would Melo want to go there, if not to play with those 2? He says no to the trade if either of those guys are part of the deal.

why would phil trade melo for nothing. if we're trading him we better get an all star in return

Why would a team trade their all star for Melo? He's certainly worth it depending on the player in question, but why would any team actually do it? They'd be in the same boat before they made the trade.

Melo isnt gonna be an easy player to trade because he can dictate where he goes, and thats assuming he'd ever want to leave, which I doubt seriously.

But if he ever asked out, or agreed, the Knicks would quite likely get close to nothing of value for him. Contenders dont have the pieces and non contenders have no leg in handing over good assets for a player they wont be receiving.

then he aint goin anywhere

[Mike Breen]

This a pretty knicks-esque situation in which we're hoping to trade a guy now that his value is literally lower than it has been for his entire career

[johnnywishbone]

Wait. What does melo not waiting on a young team have to do with the offense? Lol

It's really inevitable that melo gets traded. I said from day one he won't finish this contract out here. He got his money. He got his no trade so he has final say in where he goes. We got to keep a valuable trade chip. Get to rehab and showcase him. It was best for both sides.

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Yup. I'm not gonna lie, I'm pretty psyched about what he would get for him in a trade. as much as I'd like to keep him, I'd rather move him sooner than later to get the most value in return while he's still in his prime.

Why are you anticipating a large haul? If Melo decides to leave, he will drastically limit the market with his NTC. Basically big market contenders.

Now, even if those teams are interested in acquiring him, what contenders have young talent and worthwhile picks to give up in a trade? Or expirings to provide cap relief? And if they have those things, could they give them up for Melo and still be contenders?

Wizards. Beal, Porter and Nene for Melo. Or see if Chicago is willing to part with Butler.

[GONYK]

Yup. I'm not gonna lie, I'm pretty psyched about what he would get for him in a trade. as much as I'd like to keep him, I'd rather move him sooner than later to get the most value in return while he's still in his prime.

Why are you anticipating a large haul? If Melo decides to leave, he will drastically limit the market with his NTC. Basically big market contenders.

Now, even if those teams are interested in acquiring him, what contenders have young talent and worthwhile picks to give up in a trade? Or expirings to provide cap relief? And if they have those things, could they give them up for Melo and still be contenders?

Wizards. Beal, Porter and Nene for Melo. Or see if Chicago is willing to part with Butler.

I've already signed off on the Wizards deal . I don't think Melo is too keen on that though unless he's forced to open up his teams.

I honestly think Chicago has moved on from Melo

[Capn'O]

I honestly think Chicago has moved on from Melo

After this season... they'd be back.

This a pretty knicks-esque situation in which we're hoping to trade a guy now that his value is literally lower than it has been for his entire career

It makes sense for none of the parties to move him now and that's why it won't happen. Phil might be unorthadox but he's not stupid, particularly regarding value of star players.

[duetta]

Let's see what happens once the season starts up. The Knicks will have their best chance to move Anthony next summer, when the cap jumps to $90 million - and he'll thus be easier for teams to fit under their cap. Who knows, in the interim this group might jell, show some promise, and become attractive enough to lure another top FA.

[johnnywishbone]

Why are you anticipating a large haul? If Melo decides to leave, he will drastically limit the market with his NTC. Basically big market contenders.

Now, even if those teams are interested in acquiring him, what contenders have young talent and worthwhile picks to give up in a trade? Or expirings to provide cap relief? And if they have those things, could they give them up for Melo and still be contenders?

Wizards. Beal, Porter and Nene for Melo. Or see if Chicago is willing to part with Butler.

I've already signed off on the Wizards deal . I don't think Melo is too keen on that though unless he's forced to open up his teams.

I honestly think Chicago has moved on from Melo

The one reason I wouldn't count Chicago out yet is they are probably looking at Cleveland and realizing they are not good enough as currently structured to beat that team.

And Melo has played his best basketball against Lebron.

[method]

if we trade melo to the heat we better get bosh or wade back in return if not then **** off

Well damn, I'm just bored guys relax. As far as the trade no way we offer more than that. If its any consolation a lot of guys on the Heat board felt that even that was too much to give up on the Heats end so yeah…

White side needs to be added and then some...Maybe Dragic and Whiteside F Winslow he could be a bust for all we know.

[Little Digger]

I get the feeling this is not going to end well for the Knicks or Carmelo..I wish you guys would just move on from this *Melo era* and trade him while you can..There's nothing better on League pass than watching the knicks play at the Garden with Clyde calling the games..But it's tough to watch Anthony..

[Pjax4Prez]

I get the feeling this is not going to end well for the Knicks or Carmelo..I wish you guys would just move on from this *Melo era* and trade him while you can..There's nothing better on League pass than watching the knicks play at the Garden with Clyde calling the games..But it's tough to watch Anthony..

I can understand not liking his style of play but are you stating the Knicks are more enjoyable to watch without him? Without Melo, Clyde wouldn't have much to comment on during the last few years and the games without him have always been pretty dreadful beat downs.

[stuporman]

I'm sure Melo wasn't happy. His future is now. You know, he’s not getting younger. This is going to be a pivotal season for him to see really how he fits into the Knick plans and how this is going to go from here. Will he ask out, you know what I mean, if he sees that this is not happening? Because right now the Knicks, [it's] going to be tough to make the playoffs. They are a few years away and Melo knows that his days are numbered, so stay tuned.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/62787/clyde-on-carmelo-will-he-ask-out

You turned "will he ask out" into "he will ask out", the same words with two different meanings. Straight trolling bait post right there. I'm surprised you didn't get a time out with this move.