HarthorneWingo wrote:Fat Kat wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:The over the top criticism of Jose's play ones this board is simply wrong. Jose's play is not nearly as bad as those here - like yourself - make it out to be. According to this years "Real Plus/Minus" rankings amongst Point Guards this year, Jose ranks 20th, ahead of guards like Jeff Teague, Jrue Holiday, Goran Dragic, Kyrie Irving and Rajon Rondo. Here are the rankings:
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM/position/1Also, if you look at Jose's defensive RPM (DRPM), it's not THAT bad. For example, it's better than Mike Conley's, Damian Lillard's, Reggie Jackson's, Jrue Holiday's, Ramon Session's, Jeff Teague's, Kyrie Irving's, Brandon' Knight's and others.
For those who want to read up on RPM:
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10740818/introducing-real-plus-minus
Do your eyes honestly believe what that formula is telling you?
I'm not in a position to really comment on the comparisons with other players like Fournier and some of the others because I haven't watched them enough to know. But as to Jose, I just don't believe that he's as bad as people here are making him out to be and the RPM stats back me up on that. Jose did a great job on Kemba Walker last night and Kemba had gone for 50-somthing and 40-somthing point games this past week before last nights game. Through almost 3 quarters last night, Kemba was 4-15 FGs. I didn't see Kemba blow past Langston a few times in the second half tho. And who were those PGs who "guarded" Kemba in the 50 pt and 40 pt games? I know it wasn't Jose.
My point is that it's tough for all these guards to stay with the athletic PGs of today when they're running you off a high screen. Jose gets hurt more when he tries to go over the screen. I think he should just go under the screen and let them shoot the pull up three off the scree, which I don't think he a very high percentage shot anyhow. On the PnRs, it's all about the defensive rotations. All PG will get screened off on these plays. Yes some more than others. But the good defensive teams know how to rotate and rotate hard.
Jose is far from perfect, but he's a steady hand who can get us into our triangle and hit the outside shot consistently.
2-pt FG = 53%
3-pt FG = 41%
Overall FG = 48%
Assists to TO ratio is 4:1
Those stats are very misleading. I don't need RPM or ATO ratios or FG% to see how glaringly awful Jose Calderon is as a point guard.
Let's dissect these stats to see what I believe reallly lurks beneath.
FG% - While Jose is a capable shooter, he ONLY takes wide open shots, and half the time he pump fakes a non-existent defender, which allows his defender to catch up and get into a defensive position, upon which he passes it on to the next guy like it's a hot potato with cooties. While this may at first glance be an acceptible thing, "hey Jose takes good looks, that's a smart basketball player, bravo!" it doesn't show how few shots he has in the paint, via penetration, or even a good cut for that matter. Jose creates NOTHING on offense for himself or anyone else. My next point will talk about that more.
Assists to TO ratio - This stat is completely pointless if the only two passes you make as a PG are to the post position player or an adjacent wing. Jose doesn't pass across the court, RARELY throws an alley oop, doesn't hit back door cutters, doesn't hit his roll man in the rare PNR, he doesn't even feed the post if there's a slight chance of it being contested. This ratio means NOTHING when evaluating Jose Calderon. He protects the ball. Great. So would a safe. Maybe we should wheel one onto the court in his place. Because that's as useful as he is with the ball in his hands.
RPM - The new end all stat that has replaced PER and prior to that Per 36 and prior to that something else. No stat is perfect, nor is an eye test, but it is blatantly obvious that Jose Calderon is dog **** and this stat is doing him a disservice for how horrible he is. Total RPM puts Jose ahead of Rajon Rondo, Lin, Dragic, Jrue, TJ McConnell, Teague, Chalmers, Irving.....This stat is horribly flawed if it is trying to say that Jose Calderon is even in the same discussion as those players.
Bottom Line - Stats are a guide and nothing more. They're often misleading. I remember at one point KOQ was leading the NBA in PER for the month of December, ahead of Steph Curry somewhere in the high 30s. Take stats with a grain of salt and rather watch the games. See how the player performs night in and night out. See how the team looks and feels with and without players. It won't take long to come to my conclusion.
