PG: Game thread: Heat @ Knicks:1/27/19 aka: "We want Kanter"

Post #101 » by **Jeff Van Gully** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:34 am

waya wrote:Obligatory:

that number hasn't been available since 1990

Post #102 » by **mpharris36** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:47 am

suns down 20 vs lakers with no bron or kuz...same lakers team we built. there are 4 teams in this and we really need some wins from CHI and the Suns to make me feel comfortable.

Post #103 » by **Thugger HBC** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:53 am

Clutch loss, team has been built to lose. Glorious.

cgmw · Post #104 » by **cgmw** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:03 am

Melo sits front row, gets an ovation. THJ gets a jersey swap. Frank plays great, gets benched. Chants of “We want Kanter” (to be traded for cap space and a second rounder)!

You know when you're on a really long road trip or maybe pulled an all-nighter for school and you’ve been driving too long or stayed awake too many hours and sh*t starts to get really weird?

Yeah, that’s what this season feels like now.

GEOLINK · Post #105 » by **GEOLINK** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:07 am

Funny Melo shows up to the last Wade game at MSG.

Had Melo gone to the Heat like he should've his career would've been completely different right now.

3toheadmelo · Post #106 » by **3toheadmelo** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:09 am

wade a real 1

Watch on YouTube

G_K_F · Post #107 » by **G_K_F** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:15 am

Wade is just trying to help his friend.

The NBA is a brotherhood. They look out for their own.

The GM's, though, realize where Carmelo is at this stage of his career and what kind of player he is/was. Signing Melo will not help you win many games.

thebuzzardman · Post #108 » by **thebuzzardman** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:20 am

The Uknickorn wrote:i honestly feel, we could tank three straight years and finish dead last, but with the change in rules we would always end up with the worst possible outcome

a next team could tank ONCE and get the highest pick to change their franchise, we could do it in consecutive years and still have nothing lol...

See Bulls, Magic

3toheadmelo · Post #109 » by **3toheadmelo** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:20 am

waya wrote:Obligatory:

i just feel like this whole season would be a waste if we don't get him. don't get me wrong, all those other prospects can help us for sure but man we deserve zion after all the **** we been through. especially after losing KP to his injury

thebuzzardman · Post #110 » by **thebuzzardman** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:28 am

Garbagelo wrote:
Strick wrote:I've said it once and I'll continue to say it. Trier is what Trey Burke wishes he was.

I can't think of one thing Burke and THJ does better than Trier.

Ding! We have a winner

BBALLER4FR · Post #111 » by **BBALLER4FR** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:39 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
Garbagelo wrote:
Strick wrote:I've said it once and I'll continue to say it. Trier is what Trey Burke wishes he was.

I can't think of one thing Burke and THJ does better than Trier.

Ding! We have a winner

Not sure if you guys are saying this is a good thing for Trier or bad for him.

thebuzzardman · Post #112 » by **thebuzzardman** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:41 am

BBALLER4FR wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Garbagelo wrote:
I can't think of one thing Burke and THJ does better than Trier.

Ding! We have a winner

Not sure if you guys are saying this is a good thing for Trier or bad for him.

Good.

BBALLER4FR · Post #113 » by **BBALLER4FR** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:45 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
BBALLER4FR wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Ding! We have a winner

Not sure if you guys are saying this is a good thing for Trier or bad for him.

Good.

How is it good? Trier is a dribble dominant guard with tunnel vision and no conscience - in other words all the thing the other 2 are loathed for. But somehow it's good that Trier can do it better?

The KnicksFix · Post #114 » by **The KnicksFix** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:01 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
waya wrote:Obligatory:

i just feel like this whole season would be a waste if we don't get him. don't get me wrong, all those other prospects can help us for sure but man we deserve zion after all the **** we been through. especially after losing KP to his injury

Word. The only meaningful knock basketball I’ve watched in a longgggg time was when KP became a Knick. Then he subsequently got injured

G_K_F · Post #115 » by **G_K_F** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:02 am

BBALLER4FR wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
BBALLER4FR wrote:
Not sure if you guys are saying this is a good thing for Trier or bad for him.

Good.

How is it good? Trier is a dribble dominant guard with tunnel vision and no conscience - in other words all the thing the other 2 are loathed for. But somehow it's good that Trier can do it better?

Trier is a 6th man at best in the league.

He doesn't have many fundamentals and his basketball IQ is limited.

Doesn't mean he can't be useful on a good team.

Right now all his flaws are out in the open. They can be hidden within a good team.

The KnicksFix · Post #116 » by **The KnicksFix** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:08 am

GEOLINK wrote:Funny Melo shows up to the last Wade game at MSG.

Had Melo gone to the Heat like he should've his career would've been completely different right now.

Melo did a lot of things he shouldn’t have in his career. He took the contract that gave him another year which guaranteed him more money with Denver, but essentially removed him from 2010 when all of his friends: Bosh, James, wade became free agents.

When he became a free agent again as a Knick, he prioritized money as opposed to winning, his best bet at the time would have been to join the bulls.

The only thing that was out of his control was not being drafted as a piston at number 2 overall. Which in the end was oddly enough the only thing his resume is missing. A ring, which the pistons won the following season after that draft.

Melo’s career arc is kind of sad, a bunch of shoulda coulda woulda’s

GEOLINK · Post #117 » by **GEOLINK** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:27 am

The Uknickorn wrote:
GEOLINK wrote:Funny Melo shows up to the last Wade game at MSG.

Had Melo gone to the Heat like he should've his career would've been completely different right now.

Melo did a lot of things he shouldn’t have in his career. He took the contract that gave him another year which guaranteed him more money with Denver, but essentially removed him from 2010 when all of his friends: Bosh, James, wade became free agents.

When he became a free agent again as a Knick, he prioritized money as opposed to winning, his best bet at the time would have been to join the bulls.

The only thing that was out of his control was not being drafted as a piston at number 2 overall. Which in the end was oddly enough the only thing his resume is missing. A ring, which the pistons won the following season after that draft.

Melo’s career arc is kind of sad, a bunch of shoulda coulda woulda’s

Jeez I kind of feel for the guy but I don't since he always paper chased.

Also he said his Olympic medals gave him more satisfaction than winning an NBA ring. That pissed me off.

Strick · Post #118 » by **Strick** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:46 am

BBALLER4FR wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
BBALLER4FR wrote:
Not sure if you guys are saying this is a good thing for Trier or bad for him.

Good.

How is it good? Trier is a dribble dominant guard with tunnel vision and no conscience - in other words all the thing the other 2 are loathed for. But somehow it's good that Trier can do it better?

In terms of why I personally think Trier has a role that makes sense is the fact that he attacks, shows glimpses of good defense, and has shown flashes of distributing.

In my eyes he is a very solid 6th man in his career. He can score in bunches and unlike someone like Trey, he has the size and athleticism to hold his own at SG. Trey is a SG, but has to play PG due to size.

Obviously he needs to work on playing more of a team game and definitely needs to improve defensively, but one thing I have noticed that he does that Trey and THJ rarely do, is that he doesn't put up crazy numbers of shots when they aren't falling.

As a rookie he has some things to love and he has some things he really needs to work on, but for a role as a sixth man I think would be perfect for highlighting his strengths and would suit him very well.

The problem with THJ is that he is a starter and thinks he's a superstar with how he conducts himself out there. THJ and Trey are arguably worse than Trier on defense already and that is pretty damn bad. THJ could give Kanter a run for his money for worst defender on the team.

MaseInYourFace · Post #119 » by **MaseInYourFace** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:00 am

BBALLER4FR wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
BBALLER4FR wrote:
Not sure if you guys are saying this is a good thing for Trier or bad for him.

Good.

How is it good? Trier is a dribble dominant guard with tunnel vision and no conscience - in other words all the thing the other 2 are loathed for. But somehow it's good that Trier can do it better?

The difference is he’s a rookie who can still improve. He’s shown some passing ability. He’s one of the few guards on the team who has shown actual on-court chemistry with Mitch.

MaseInYourFace · Post #120 » by **MaseInYourFace** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:04 am

Hes_On_Fire wrote:
BBALLER4FR wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Good.

How is it good? Trier is a dribble dominant guard with tunnel vision and no conscience - in other words all the thing the other 2 are loathed for. But somehow it's good that Trier can do it better?

Trier is a 6th man at best in the league.

He doesn't have many fundamentals and his basketball IQ is limited.

Doesn't mean he can't be useful on a good team.

Right now all his flaws are out in the open. They can be hidden within a good team.

He doesn’t have any fundamentals? Seems an exaggeration, no?