Trades and Transactions thread - To the offseason!

[Clyde Ward]

how does the board feel about buddy hield?

i've been an advocate for trying to snag bogdonovic from sac - but with the team potentially trying to retain him (and hield not loving the bench role).

would he be the board is willing to make a move for this offseason?

he's not the youngest (27) not great on the defensive end, but is a lights out shooter who would create a ton of space for RJ and Mitch.

just look at how almost competent our offense looks with ellington as a three point threat? and he on his best day will only give you 12-15 off the bench, not the 20-25 that hield can get you.

thoughts?

[the_antz_nest]

how does the board feel about buddy hield?

i've been an advocate for trying to snag bogdonovic from sac - but with the team potentially trying to retain him (and hield not loving the bench role).

would he be the board is willing to make a move for this offseason?

he's not the youngest (27) not great on the defensive end, but is a lights out shooter who would create a ton of space for RJ and Mitch.

just look at how almost competent our offense looks with ellington as a three point threat? and he on his best day will only give you 12-15 off the bench, not the 20-25 that hield can get you.

thoughts?

I’ve always loved him.
What do you think the asking price would be?

[RShahNyC89]

how does the board feel about buddy hield?

i've been an advocate for trying to snag bogdonovic from sac - but with the team potentially trying to retain him (and hield not loving the bench role).

would he be the board is willing to make a move for this offseason?

he's not the youngest (27) not great on the defensive end, but is a lights out shooter who would create a ton of space for RJ and Mitch.

just look at how almost competent our offense looks with ellington as a three point threat? and he on his best day will only give you 12-15 off the bench, not the 20-25 that hield can get you.

thoughts?

I’ve always loved him.
What do you think the asking price would be?

I think he would work and fit really well with Frank/Hield/RJ as our 1-3, Mitch as our center and potentially a 2 year 30/year for Gallo with a team option for the 2nd year. (Overpay for control)

That team is a good mix of shooting, spacing, high-IQ and Mitch/Frank on D. I would be entertained watching games at the very least and Hield's price tag in terms of contract is eatable at a productive 25ish mil/year

Would SAC take Randle (for production/flexibility), Knox and a Dallas 1st? Or is that too much

[the_antz_nest]

how does the board feel about buddy hield?

i've been an advocate for trying to snag bogdonovic from sac - but with the team potentially trying to retain him (and hield not loving the bench role).

would he be the board is willing to make a move for this offseason?

he's not the youngest (27) not great on the defensive end, but is a lights out shooter who would create a ton of space for RJ and Mitch.

just look at how almost competent our offense looks with ellington as a three point threat? and he on his best day will only give you 12-15 off the bench, not the 20-25 that hield can get you.

thoughts?

I’ve always loved him.
What do you think the asking price would be?

I think he would work and fit really well with Frank/Hield/RJ as our 1-3, Mitch as our center and potentially a 2 year 30/year for Gallo with a team option for the 2nd year. (Overpay for control)

That team is a good mix of shooting, spacing, high-IQ and Mitch/Frank on D. I would be entertained watching games at the very least and Hield's price tag in terms of contract is eatable at a productive 25ish mil/year

Would SAC take Randle (for production/flexibility), Knox and a Dallas 1st? Or is that too much

Yeh, his fit I don’t think would be in question. Randle, Knox, probably add trier in and a 1st.

We are buyers and he hasn’t actually requested a trade.
He’s also under contract till 31 for a what is not a bad price considering the market. It would be worth it imo

[spree2kawhi]

Yeah I've changed my mind on him since his contract extension, which really is great value. He's not the type of player you should overpay, but on that deal I hope we go get him (ideally in a trade for Randle, the league's worst three point shooter).

[HarthorneWingo]

how does the board feel about buddy hield?

i've been an advocate for trying to snag bogdonovic from sac - but with the team potentially trying to retain him (and hield not loving the bench role).

would he be the board is willing to make a move for this offseason?

he's not the youngest (27) not great on the defensive end, but is a lights out shooter who would create a ton of space for RJ and Mitch.

just look at how almost competent our offense looks with ellington as a three point threat? and he on his best day will only give you 12-15 off the bench, not the 20-25 that hield can get you.

thoughts?

I’ve always loved him.
What do you think the asking price would be?

I think he would work and fit really well with Frank/Hield/RJ as our 1-3, Mitch as our center and potentially a 2 year 30/year for Gallo with a team option for the 2nd year. (Overpay for control)

That team is a good mix of shooting, spacing, high-IQ and Mitch/Frank on D. I would be entertained watching games at the very least and Hield's price tag in terms of contract is eatable at a productive 25ish mil/year

Would SAC take Randle (for production/flexibility), Knox and a Dallas 1st? Or is that too much

I'd bring back Marcus Morris before I brought back Gallo for that obscene amount of money.

[Clyde Frazier]

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[knickstape4ever]

how does the board feel about buddy hield?

i've been an advocate for trying to snag bogdonovic from sac - but with the team potentially trying to retain him (and hield not loving the bench role).

would he be the board is willing to make a move for this offseason?

he's not the youngest (27) not great on the defensive end, but is a lights out shooter who would create a ton of space for RJ and Mitch.

just look at how almost competent our offense looks with ellington as a three point threat? and he on his best day will only give you 12-15 off the bench, not the 20-25 that hield can get you.

thoughts?

I’ve always loved him.
What do you think the asking price would be?

I think he would work and fit really well with Frank/Hield/RJ as our 1-3, Mitch as our center and potentially a 2 year 30/year for Gallo with a team option for the 2nd year. (Overpay for control)

That team is a good mix of shooting, spacing, high-IQ and Mitch/Frank on D. I would be entertained watching games at the very least and Hield's price tag in terms of contract is eatable at a productive 25ish mil/year

Would SAC take Randle (for production/flexibility), Knox and a Dallas 1st? Or is that too much

if that's all it would cost to land Hield, id do it in a heartbeat; but I bet his price would be higher because he's an elite shooter

[dakomish23]

Buddy Hield is on a declining contract

2020/21 $26,431,817
2021/22 $24,477,272
2022/23 $22,522,728
2023/24 $20,568,183

Just throwing it out there

[the_antz_nest]

Buddy Hield is on a declining contract

2020/21 $26,431,817
2021/22 $24,477,272
2022/23 $22,522,728
2023/24 $20,568,183

Just throwing it out there

Yeh that will prob cost us a add on 2nd round pick in a trade....

Randle, Knox, trier, mavs 1st, 2nd

[KnicksGadfly]

how does the board feel about buddy hield?

i've been an advocate for trying to snag bogdonovic from sac - but with the team potentially trying to retain him (and hield not loving the bench role).

would he be the board is willing to make a move for this offseason?

he's not the youngest (27) not great on the defensive end, but is a lights out shooter who would create a ton of space for RJ and Mitch.

just look at how almost competent our offense looks with ellington as a three point threat? and he on his best day will only give you 12-15 off the bench, not the 20-25 that hield can get you.

thoughts?

I think he would be good for our yoots. Also, he's the type of young guy we could invest in. Young, on a longer term contract. Not some Bobby Portis type of trash.

[dakomish23]

The LAC pick 2020 is unprotected? In the worst case scenarios where they go through a ton of injuries.

2020 first round draft pick from L.A. Clippers
L.A. Clippers' 2020 1st round pick to New York [L.A. Clippers-New York-Washington, 2/6/2020]

2020 second round draft pick from Charlotte
Charlotte's 2020 2nd round pick to New York [Charlotte-New York, 2/7/2018]

2021 first round draft pick from Dallas
Dallas' 2021 1st round pick to New York [Dallas-New York, 1/31/2019]

2021 first round draft pick from L.A. Clippers
New York has the right to swap its 2021 1st round pick for the L.A. Clippers' 2021 1st round pick protected for selections 1-4 (if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyable, then the L.A. Clippers' obligation to New York will be extinguished) [L.A. Clippers-New York-Washington, 2/6/2020]

2021 second round draft pick from Charlotte
Charlotte's 2021 2nd round pick to New York [Charlotte-New York, 2/7/2018]

2021 second round draft pick from Detroit
Detroit's 2021 2nd round pick to New York (via Philadelphia to L.A. Clippers) [Detroit-Philadelphia, 6/21/2018; L.A. Clippers-Philadelphia, 2/6/2019; L.A. Clippers-New York-Washington, 2/6/2020]

2023 first round draft pick from Dallas
Dallas' 1st round pick to New York protected for selections 1-10 in 2023, 1-10 in 2024 and 1-10 in 2025; if Dallas has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2025, then Dallas will instead convey its 2025 2nd round pick to New York [Dallas-New York, 1/31/2019]

[thebuzzardman]

You proposing the above for Hield? Seems steep. Or just listing the extra assets?

Basically, want Dallas to stay out of the lottery so their 2023 pick comes to the Knick in the extra deep College/HS draft, correct?

[Dave DaButcher]

Do we want this guy?

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[iLLmatic860]

Do we want this guy?

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Yes ill trade Randle and Frank for Gordan

[HerSports85]

Do we want this guy?

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Nope I rather trade for Lauri Markkanen. Randle + 2023 Dallas pick

[DLTGWH]

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Too bad we don’t have pat Riley running our program. For ash the talk Masai gets, he’s probably the top exec in the game.

[spree2kawhi]

You proposing the above for Hield? Seems steep. Or just listing the extra assets?

Basically, want Dallas to stay out of the lottery so their 2023 pick comes to the Knick in the extra deep College/HS draft, correct?

I hope I'm not wrong, don't wanna look it up again, but I think:

Their 2021 pick is unprotected and could very well end up in the lottery. Dallas isn't a very good team actually and the West is so tough, they might finish 10th that year.

In 2023 the pick is top 10 protected and it doesn't get much better going forward. That's a heavily protected pick that iirc might very well convey as a second rounder in 2025 after all.

We really shouldn't touch the 2021 pick, not even for Hield. That said, going after Buddy is a must and I'm also comfortable with Harrison Barnes given our ability to swallow bad deals. He has become a very, very consistent shooter and defender over the years. He's not bad at all if you look into it - most of that is narrative and a bad environment. Kings haven't been ready so far.

Edit: imo Barnes > A. Gordon > Randle

[spree2kawhi]

By now, this is my ideal result of the 2020 offseason (includes draft, one trade, one FA), a 10 man roster to that point:

Edwards (or Cole/Haliburton) / Frank
Hield / Edwards / Frank
RJ / Bullock / Barnes
J. Grant / Barnes / Knox
Mitch / Wooten

I think that's really an exciting payoff team with a very good second unit.

[thebuzzardman]

You proposing the above for Hield? Seems steep. Or just listing the extra assets?

Basically, want Dallas to stay out of the lottery so their 2023 pick comes to the Knick in the extra deep College/HS draft, correct?

I hope I'm not wrong, don't wanna look it up again, but I think:

Their 2021 pick is unprotected and could very well end up in the lottery. Dallas isn't a very good team actually and the West is so tough, they might finish 10th that year.

In 2023 the pick is top 10 protected and it doesn't get much better going forward. That's a heavily protected pick that iirc might very well convey as a second rounder in 2025 after all.

We really shouldn't touch the 2021 pick, not even for Hield. That said, going after Buddy is a must and I'm also comfortable with Harrison Barnes given our ability to swallow bad deals. He has become a very, very consistent shooter and defender over the years. He's not bad at all if you look into it - most of that is narrative and a bad environment. Kings haven't been ready so far.

Edit: imo Barnes > A. Gordon > Randle

I doubt Dallas is a lotto team in 2023. Which, other than weird lotto odds if their record is LATE lotto and they move up (whatever the last lotto pick is 14? 16?) to top 10, it's GOOD news they'll be good, since the pick will convey and it's a supposed to be a very deep draft.