HEZI wrote:GONYK wrote:Deeeez Knicks wrote:
I disagree with that. He is a good player, just not good enough to win it all. Doen't mean he was a major reason for his team not winning it all. It is more so that it is something that is really tough to do and very few players can be the best player on a championship team. There are a lot of good players like that. Melo, Iverson, McGrady, Ewing, Barkley, Malone, etc.
Westbrook does have a lot of flaws, but he was a beast in his prime and def helped his teams win games...just not enough to win it all.
We can agree to disagree. I don't really care about Westbrook that much, but I think it's hard to ignore that every time the playoffs rolled around, the conversation of Westbrook's ineffectiveness became unavoidable.
His inability to run a halfcourt offense, his defensive inconsistency, and his lack of shooting being the big factors.
Those are still issues that are present today. Which is what the argument against him was.
I think WBs biggest flaw is that he is emotionally fragile. He lacks composure and he lets emotion get in the way of making the right decisions in the playoffs. I still remember when he tried to laugh off reporters asking him about Steph Curry's defense and then Curry went off on him and OKC lost the series lead and the series. Then the series with Utah when Rubio torched him and reporters asked him about it and he said he was going to shut his water off, well Rubio lit him up again. Then the incident with Dame Lillard and Dame sending him home. The guy just lets things get in his head and you see the effects of it in the games year after year after year. Every year it's like ok maybe he learned something and might just go out and take care of business but nope he continues to let the same things get to him year after year after year and it's become quite entertaining actually, it's like a show you've watched multiple times and know what exactly is about to happen but you watch anyway.
disagree
WB isn't emotionally fragile. It's his ego-- he wants to be the guy.
Remember when Billups said Melo was just happy getting his #s and couldn't figure out how to help the rest of the team win? I think WB has a little of that in him. He's at his best when he's putting up #s and controlling the ball/pace just like Melo.
But obviously the guy also puts in 10asts a game so he's succeeded in ways that Melo failed which was finding a way to make his teammates better.
if you could find a way to make WB your third best player on the team and tweak his play style so that he recognizes this, I think he could definitely win a championship in that circumstance. But the trick is getting him to a place where he is the third best player and where he accepts taking a backseat to shots he would've taken when he was 25? IDK if that can happen.
just like it didn't happen to Melo who wanted to keep taking those shots to get his numbers at the expense of the rest of the team.
Lonzo is about to peace out on them.
