Around the NBA - the sharp end of the playoffs - Randle snubbed for All NBA

[G_K_F]

so are you admitting that you are defeated then? i guess you're just trolling cause nowhere in his post does he even insinuate that

let's also not gloss over the fact iq was **** horrendous for nearly 75% of the season and peaked when nothing mattered anymore. i don't know why people are complaining about him not getting more minutes and if i really wanted to be annoying i'm sure i could go back and see every single person talking **** about him (except maybe knixtape or nykmentality cause he's banned)

and it's not like chanel is tom putting burks out there - kemba was trash, derrick was hurt and iq was awful ... what's he gonna do? point taj? at some point you have to realize that the team was bad, it was constructed poorly and we lack talent. that's why we suck. not because chan types huge paragraphs about burks or whatever other player people hate

Again - both things can be true. The roster isn't good and the coach is a hardheaded idiot who values veterans over younger players.

I'd rather play McBride and tank to the top 5 of the draft than play Burks at point and have the 11th pick.

But the McBride piece doesn't happen in a vacuum without any consequences on the other players.

You'd rather play McBride with everything that comes with it. Including surrounding RJ with another non-shooter instead of a 39.1% 3-point shooter. So you have to assume that loss in spacing then. McBride was an Elfrid Payton level shooter this past year.

McBride barely got on the court the entire season.

He played over 20 minutes 4 times the entire season.

The one time he played and started - albeit the Rockets G League squad - he was 6/11 from the floor with 15 points, 9 assists and 4 steals.

Nobody expects that stat line above on a consistent basis. The point is to turn McBride into Elfrid Payton when he barely got to show anything is not really giving the full picture. Elfrid - and players like him - had plenty of time in the league to show they're not good. McBride hasn't (9 mpg over 40 games) and deserves more benefit of the doubt before we can lump him into awful shooter categories. The sample size is ridiculously small, which is the problem to begin with. This year was a lost season way early on. We could have seen if McBride was worth anything rather than wasting time on journeyman role players with no future here.

[Chanel Bomber]

Again - both things can be true. The roster isn't good and the coach is a hardheaded idiot who values veterans over younger players.

I'd rather play McBride and tank to the top 5 of the draft than play Burks at point and have the 11th pick.

But the McBride piece doesn't happen in a vacuum without any consequences on the other players.

You'd rather play McBride with everything that comes with it. Including surrounding RJ with another non-shooter instead of a 39.1% 3-point shooter. So you have to assume that loss in spacing then. McBride was an Elfrid Payton level shooter this past year.

McBride barely got on the court the entire season.

He played over 20 minutes 4 times the entire season.

The one time he played and started - albeit the Rockets G League squad - he was 6/11 from the floor with 15 points, 9 assists and 4 steals.

Nobody expects that stat line above on a consistent basis. The point is to turn McBride into Elfrid Payton when he barely got to show anything is not really giving the full picture. Elfrid - and players like him - had plenty of time in the league to show they're not good. McBride hasn't (9 mpg over 40 games) and deserves more benefit of the doubt before we can lump him into awful shooter categories. The sample size is ridiculously small, which is the problem to begin with. This year was a lost season way early on. We could have seen if McBride was worth anything rather than wasting time on journeyman role players with no future here.

You want to blame the front office, fine. I agree.

I was hoping they would trade Burks at the deadline, if only to clear the logjam on the wings.

But I don't see how you can blame Thibs for playing Burks (a 39.1% 3-point shooter) over McBride (a 25% 3-point shooter). Especially since the team needed some stability at the point guard spot after the Kemba disaster. Especially since the team's two high-usage players can't shoot and supposedly need spacing around them to succeed.

Grimes didn't need a large sample size to earn a spot in the rotation. He earned his spot fair and square. He was rewarded for it. That's what you want for your young players. McBride didn't show it as consistently as Grimes did so he will have to show it again.

I don't really think McBride warrants this reaction. He was a second-round pick. He plays in the G-League. He had one good game but he didn't show much otherwise, especially on offense. He will have a chance to prove his worth again. I'm not crucifying Thibs for freaking Miles McBride. If he had shot the ball at a respectable rate, I would share your sentiment.

But you expand the sample size and he keeps playing as poorly, it hurts everybody else too, including some of the other young players.

[G_K_F]

But the McBride piece doesn't happen in a vacuum without any consequences on the other players.

You'd rather play McBride with everything that comes with it. Including surrounding RJ with another non-shooter instead of a 39.1% 3-point shooter. So you have to assume that loss in spacing then. McBride was an Elfrid Payton level shooter this past year.

McBride barely got on the court the entire season.

He played over 20 minutes 4 times the entire season.

The one time he played and started - albeit the Rockets G League squad - he was 6/11 from the floor with 15 points, 9 assists and 4 steals.

Nobody expects that stat line above on a consistent basis. The point is to turn McBride into Elfrid Payton when he barely got to show anything is not really giving the full picture. Elfrid - and players like him - had plenty of time in the league to show they're not good. McBride hasn't (9 mpg over 40 games) and deserves more benefit of the doubt before we can lump him into awful shooter categories. The sample size is ridiculously small, which is the problem to begin with. This year was a lost season way early on. We could have seen if McBride was worth anything rather than wasting time on journeyman role players with no future here.

You want to blame the front office, fine. I agree.

I was hoping they would trade Burks at the deadline, if only to clear the logjam on the wings.

But I don't see how you can blame Thibs for playing Burks (a 39.1% 3-point shooter) over McBride (a 25% 3-point shooter). Especially since the team needed some stability at the point guard spot after the Kemba disaster. Especially since the team's two high-usage players can't shoot and supposedly need spacing around them to succeed.

Grimes didn't need a large sample size to earn a spot in the rotation. He earned his spot fair and square. He was rewarded for it. That's what you want for your young players. McBride didn't show it as consistently as Grimes did so he will have to show it again.

I don't really think McBride warrants this reaction. He was a second-round pick. He plays in the G-League. He had one good game but he didn't show much otherwise, especially on offense. He will have a chance to prove his worth again. I'm not crucifying Thibs for freaking Miles McBride. If he had shot the ball at a respectable rate, I would share your sentiment.

But you expand the sample size and he keeps playing as poorly, it hurts everybody else too, including some of the other young players.

We expanded the sample size for one game and it didn't hurt anyone - and we won. We never expanded it again.

So yes, I blame Thibs when you're playing a guy at point guard who isn't a point guard and you have another young player on the roster who needs time in a lost season.

The team should have been going for a top pick but primarily because of Thibodeau they were trying to win at all costs. So yes, I'll blame him for that all day. You don't want to, that's on you. But it's clear that Thibodeau wanted to win at all costs and that included the cost of developing any of the young role players on the roster.

You're trying to waive this off as a reaction to McBride. This is not about McBride. This is about Tom Thibodeau's mentality which will do nothing to help the future of this team.

[Chanel Bomber]

McBride barely got on the court the entire season.

He played over 20 minutes 4 times the entire season.

The one time he played and started - albeit the Rockets G League squad - he was 6/11 from the floor with 15 points, 9 assists and 4 steals.

Nobody expects that stat line above on a consistent basis. The point is to turn McBride into Elfrid Payton when he barely got to show anything is not really giving the full picture. Elfrid - and players like him - had plenty of time in the league to show they're not good. McBride hasn't (9 mpg over 40 games) and deserves more benefit of the doubt before we can lump him into awful shooter categories. The sample size is ridiculously small, which is the problem to begin with. This year was a lost season way early on. We could have seen if McBride was worth anything rather than wasting time on journeyman role players with no future here.

You want to blame the front office, fine. I agree.

I was hoping they would trade Burks at the deadline, if only to clear the logjam on the wings.

But I don't see how you can blame Thibs for playing Burks (a 39.1% 3-point shooter) over McBride (a 25% 3-point shooter). Especially since the team needed some stability at the point guard spot after the Kemba disaster. Especially since the team's two high-usage players can't shoot and supposedly need spacing around them to succeed.

Grimes didn't need a large sample size to earn a spot in the rotation. He earned his spot fair and square. He was rewarded for it. That's what you want for your young players. McBride didn't show it as consistently as Grimes did so he will have to show it again.

I don't really think McBride warrants this reaction. He was a second-round pick. He plays in the G-League. He had one good game but he didn't show much otherwise, especially on offense. He will have a chance to prove his worth again. I'm not crucifying Thibs for freaking Miles McBride. If he had shot the ball at a respectable rate, I would share your sentiment.

But you expand the sample size and he keeps playing as poorly, it hurts everybody else too, including some of the other young players.

We expanded the sample size for one game and it didn't hurt anyone - and we won. We never expanded it again.

So yes, I blame Thibs when you're playing a guy at point guard who isn't a point guard and you have another young player on the roster who needs time in a lost season.

The team should have been going for a top pick but primarily because of Thibodeau they were trying to win at all costs. So yes, I'll blame him for that all day. You don't want to, that's on you. But it's clear that Thibodeau wanted to win at all costs and that included the cost of developing any of the young role players on the roster.

You're trying to waive this off as a reaction to McBride. This is not about McBride. This is about Tom Thibodeau's mentality which will do nothing to help the future of this team.

I think we're reaching the point where we're talking in circles but I don't think Thibodeau's mentality has proven to be anti-youth or destructive for the future on the whole. I think it's a mixed bag. And consequently each situation also needs to be assessed individually. I don't think the pattern on the whole screams "Thibs hates the youth and isn't invested at all in their development".

He's enabled one young player and arguably given him too much. He relied on another young player to anchor his defense. He stuck with a young player even as he was struggling mightily. He gave another young player an opportunity and rewarded him for his play with a spot in the rotation. He benched a young player the Knicks traded for because of a logjam on the wings. He didn't expand the playing time of a top 10 pick because he was stuck behind his "franchise player" and because he religiously demands rim protection from the 5 spot. He didn't give a G-Leaguer who was drafted in the 2nd round consistent opportunities. All these players fall in different spots on the gradient.

[Reign23]

so are you admitting that you are defeated then? i guess you're just trolling cause nowhere in his post does he even insinuate that

let's also not gloss over the fact iq was **** horrendous for nearly 75% of the season and peaked when nothing mattered anymore. i don't know why people are complaining about him not getting more minutes and if i really wanted to be annoying i'm sure i could go back and see every single person talking **** about him (except maybe knixtape or nykmentality cause he's banned)

and it's not like chanel is tom putting burks out there - kemba was trash, derrick was hurt and iq was awful ... what's he gonna do? point taj? at some point you have to realize that the team was bad, it was constructed poorly and we lack talent. that's why we suck. not because chan types huge paragraphs about burks or whatever other player people hate

lol no. we just had that same conversation many times. and when chanel points out that fournier only played 7.1 minutes more in a certain time span in january I have nothing else to add
and to IQ, I was on the IQ-sucks bandwagon all season. he did look good in the last 20 or so games and what the hell is the point in playing alec burks more minutes than him in an already lost season. to look what burks can become when he is 35?

i know you are no fool reign, i'm just pointing out the context i think many people ignore when "engaging in debate" w/ chan

i agree that burks starting is asinine but starting iq doesn't change the trajectory of the team, doesn't help our lotto odds and can be argued that it would even help his develop considering how he finished

could mcbride have played more? sure? would it have made us better/worse? maybe a little? but our coach is tom thibodeau and some people choose to accept that reality while others dance around it while projecting their frustrations on others who rationalize (perhaps over rationalize) the status quo

nothing but respect for you reign ... just stop perpetuating chan's suffering, if for no one's sake other than my own. you don't want to see me suffer by proxy do you??

no I think we all have suffered enough from those topics.

[DOT]

Yo Dot, read Kings of the Wyld off your recommendation here a while ago. Sht was fun - really enjoyed the light nature and self depreciation of the crew. Was a nice easy fun adventure after trying my hardest to slog through wheel of time.

Yeah, I like reading on-offs like that every once in a while to take a break from the super long series

2nd book in this series I'm reading, Hunger of the Gods, just came out and I've been trying to find time for it, but I've been using all my free time to watch One Piece. Finally caught up yesterday, so I have some free time for other things now lol.

[Guano]

Yo Dot, read Kings of the Wyld off your recommendation here a while ago. Sht was fun - really enjoyed the light nature and self depreciation of the crew. Was a nice easy fun adventure after trying my hardest to slog through wheel of time.

Yeah, I like reading on-offs like that every once in a while to take a break from the super long series

2nd book in this series I'm reading, Hunger of the Gods, just came out and I've been trying to find time for it, but I've been using all my free time to watch One Piece. Finally caught up yesterday, so I have some free time for other things now lol.

I was about to ask you how you like hunger of God's when I did a quick Google search and the author looks like this


I'm all in.


I don't know what's wrong with me but I can't get into TV lately - shows or movies or anime (could add video games to this list too). I want to chalk it up to it feels like a waste of time and im beyond wasting that precious resource but I read this forum and fantasy books so that would be a lie. Something is just off with TV. And it sucks cause there is some entertaining and great art there.

[evevale]

Yo Dot, read Kings of the Wyld off your recommendation here a while ago. Sht was fun - really enjoyed the light nature and self depreciation of the crew. Was a nice easy fun adventure after trying my hardest to slog through wheel of time.

i like reading books - how mnay pages is it and how long did it take you to read

I don't know what's wrong with me but I can't get into TV lately - shows or movies or anime (could add video games to this list too). I want to chalk it up to it feels like a waste of time and im beyond wasting that precious resource but I read this forum and fantasy books so that would be a lie. Something is just off with TV. And it sucks cause there is some entertaining and great art there.

i agree w/ you about tv (not games, manga, anime though ) but you should maybe try watching severance - it's really good. and you should think about my suggestion on xenoblade chronicles ... both are much much better than browsing this forum

i also saw "you've got mail" recently cause my brother's wife recommended it and it's officially the cutest **** movie i've ever watched

Yeah, I like reading on-offs like that every once in a while to take a break from the super long series

2nd book in this series I'm reading, Hunger of the Gods, just came out and I've been trying to find time for it, but I've been using all my free time to watch One Piece. Finally caught up yesterday, so I have some free time for other things now lol.

i wish i had 10000 hours of time to watch one piece .... i read the first couple hundred chapters of the manga (which were meh but everyone keeps telling me it gets so much better after only several billion more chapters ...) and then life got busy and i never caught back up and i'm too intimidated by how far behind i am to read it again. same thing happened to me w/ tower of god manga

i also heard the one piece anime is vastly inferior to the manga in terms of the artwork - what were your overall thoughts?

[DOT]

i also heard the one piece anime is vastly inferior to the manga in terms of the artwork - what were your overall thoughts?

I'm just gonna say, I don't think the anime, in terms of animation, ever gets good

Like, there's a noticeable improvement over time, but even the stuff being released now isn't nearly up to par with other modern shows. It's not bad anymore, and there are very good moments, but I wouldn't say it's overall good

But that's also kind of a limit of the medium, manga artwork will always be much more intricate than anime due to the nature of making it. Here's a comparison of a still of the introduction of Kaido in both the manga and anime:

Spoiler:

Personally, I prefer anime to manga in general, so if I have a choice I'll pick anime, but I do hear the manga is better

I can't speak for the manga itself, but I do get the whole taking a while to get going thing. I think for me, it didn't really click until Water 7/Eneis Lobby, which is a problem because it starts 220 episodes in and takes another 100 to finish. It's not that what comes before is bad, I think Alabasta and Arlong Park specifically are great and what kept me going, but I don't think it really gets good until then

I think what helps it for me is, yeah there's over 1000 episodes, but when you remove the intro, outro, recap, and skip through flashbacks to previous episodes (which there are a lot of), the average episode is under 15 minutes. Still a lot, but it's pretty easy to binge if you're skipping through those parts

It's a huge time commitment just due to the size, but I think it's worth it.

[evevale]

Spoiler:

i also heard the one piece anime is vastly inferior to the manga in terms of the artwork - what were your overall thoughts?

I'm just gonna say, I don't think the anime, in terms of animation, ever gets good

Like, there's a noticeable improvement over time, but even the stuff being released now isn't nearly up to par with other modern shows. It's not bad anymore, and there are very good moments, but I wouldn't say it's overall good

But that's also kind of a limit of the medium, manga artwork will always be much more intricate than anime due to the nature of making it. Here's a comparison of a still of the introduction of Kaido in both the manga and anime:

Spoiler:

Personally, I prefer anime to manga in general, so if I have a choice I'll pick anime, but I do hear the manga is better

I can't speak for the manga itself, but I do get the whole taking a while to get going thing. I think for me, it didn't really click until Water 7/Eneis Lobby, which is a problem because it starts 220 episodes in and takes another 100 to finish. It's not that what comes before is bad, I think Alabasta and Arlong Park specifically are great and what kept me going, but I don't think it really gets good until then

I think what helps it for me is, yeah there's over 1000 episodes, but when you remove the intro, outro, recap, and skip through flashbacks to previous episodes (which there are a lot of), the average episode is under 15 minutes. Still a lot, but it's pretty easy to binge if you're skipping through those parts

It's a huge time commitment just due to the size, but I think it's worth it.

that's disappointing to hear about the animation - certainly an issue that the manga does not have

i'm kinda the opposite - if i have a choice between manga and anime, i typically choose the manga cause it comes from the hand of the main artist. one thing i do appreciate from watching anime (naruto/bleach/my hero/fma:b/etc) is the music ...

my memory is very fuzzy from one piece so i don't remember those names/events but if you think it's worth the time invested i will give it another try soon!

[El Poochio]

Mavs to win it all you heard it here first..

[El Poochio]

The things Luka gonna do to Steph Curry yall not ready to see

[Guano]

Yo Dot, read Kings of the Wyld off your recommendation here a while ago. Sht was fun - really enjoyed the light nature and self depreciation of the crew. Was a nice easy fun adventure after trying my hardest to slog through wheel of time.

i like reading books - how mnay pages is it and how long did it take you to read

I don't know what's wrong with me but I can't get into TV lately - shows or movies or anime (could add video games to this list too). I want to chalk it up to it feels like a waste of time and im beyond wasting that precious resource but I read this forum and fantasy books so that would be a lie. Something is just off with TV. And it sucks cause there is some entertaining and great art there.

i agree w/ you about tv (not games, manga, anime though ) but you should maybe try watching severance - it's really good. and you should think about my suggestion on xenoblade chronicles ... both are much much better than browsing this forum

i also saw "you've got mail" recently cause my brother's wife recommended it and it's officially the cutest **** movie i've ever watched

Yeah, I like reading on-offs like that every once in a while to take a break from the super long series

2nd book in this series I'm reading, Hunger of the Gods, just came out and I've been trying to find time for it, but I've been using all my free time to watch One Piece. Finally caught up yesterday, so I have some free time for other things now lol.

i wish i had 10000 hours of time to watch one piece .... i read the first couple hundred chapters of the manga (which were meh but everyone keeps telling me it gets so much better after only several billion more chapters ...) and then life got busy and i never caught back up and i'm too intimidated by how far behind i am to read it again. same thing happened to me w/ tower of god manga

i also heard the one piece anime is vastly inferior to the manga in terms of the artwork - what were your overall thoughts?

Kings of the Wyld is a fairly short and easy read. And while it has a second book in the same realm it's a stand alone adventure. Easy and worthy of a spin.



I just looked up severance and it's on appleTV one of the few streaming services Im actually not paying for right now. So I'll illegally stream it at work. As for gaming I'm afraid I might never go back to it. It's the time a session takes up is too much. I can't sit still and dedicate that much time or I don't know. It gives me mad anxiety. It sucks.

[TheGreenArrow]

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[TheGreenArrow]

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[El Poochio]

GreenArrow the new riddler

[El Poochio]

Sham really said i cant live in a world where LeBron and KD are not the best players and bid adieu wow

[Gorilla Monsoon]

Yo Dot, read Kings of the Wyld off your recommendation here a while ago. Sht was fun - really enjoyed the light nature and self depreciation of the crew. Was a nice easy fun adventure after trying my hardest to slog through wheel of time.

Yeah, I like reading on-offs like that every once in a while to take a break from the super long series

2nd book in this series I'm reading, Hunger of the Gods, just came out and I've been trying to find time for it, but I've been using all my free time to watch One Piece. Finally caught up yesterday, so I have some free time for other things now lol.

I was about to ask you how you like hunger of God's when I did a quick Google search and the author looks like this


I'm all in.


I don't know what's wrong with me but I can't get into TV lately - shows or movies or anime (could add video games to this list too). I want to chalk it up to it feels like a waste of time and im beyond wasting that precious resource but I read this forum and fantasy books so that would be a lie. Something is just off with TV. And it sucks cause there is some entertaining and great art there.

TV is trash and a waste of time.

(except for Ozark which was incredible)

[TerrenceClarke]

The things Luka gonna do to Steph Curry yall not ready to see

Most of this board thinks the warriors will wash them.

[Guano]

Yeah, I like reading on-offs like that every once in a while to take a break from the super long series

2nd book in this series I'm reading, Hunger of the Gods, just came out and I've been trying to find time for it, but I've been using all my free time to watch One Piece. Finally caught up yesterday, so I have some free time for other things now lol.

I was about to ask you how you like hunger of God's when I did a quick Google search and the author looks like this


I'm all in.


I don't know what's wrong with me but I can't get into TV lately - shows or movies or anime (could add video games to this list too). I want to chalk it up to it feels like a waste of time and im beyond wasting that precious resource but I read this forum and fantasy books so that would be a lie. Something is just off with TV. And it sucks cause there is some entertaining and great art there.

TV is trash and a waste of time.

(except for Ozark which was incredible)

Sht was cheesy af - I don't know how anyone could get into it. It was a poor attempt at a breaking bad knock off.