NYC Anuses vs Sleeve of Wizards Preseason Game Thread - 10/14, 7:30

[Monk1718]

I’m prepared for grimes hot-takes after this game good or bad

[3toheadmelo]

Hopefully Thibs goes all out on the starters tonight

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Friday night and watching a preseason game between the Knicks and Wiz, life can't get much better than this.

[thebuzzardman]

Hopefully Thibs goes all out on the starters tonight

Fournier 42 minutes, Grimes 6 minutes

[Monk1718]

Friday night and watching a preseason game between the Knicks and Wiz, life can't get much better than this.

[The Lamma]

Go Anuses!!

[Monk1718]

Go Anuses!!

Coach Tom Thibodeau. Very fitting.

[Chanel Bomber]

For me its the context of RJ being 21 years old and the ability for him to get better. Take all your favorite players in Jokic, Curry, and Westbrook. They all took years to get better and become the players they became. They all had some glaring flaws and doubters early on. Improvement like that doesn't happen all the time, and superstars like that are rare. But improvement does take time as evidenced even with your favorite players.

In terms of RJ, I see signs. Its been beaten to death. He def needs to get better. So far his preaseason has been very encouraging and he looks better all around. Have to see if it carries over of course. I think he has a bunch of different paths to get better so will see what happens.

In terms of Deuce, he's a 2nd round pick and odds are against him. What I like about him and that archeotype is he can effect the game without scoring or touching the ball with his defense, grit and hustle....We saw that last year and just recently in the preseason with his 6 steal, 4board, 2 assist, 1 block game. Even with poor efficiency he had a good game. If he can just knock down open 3's then hes a rotation player, and the type you would want since he doesnt need a high usage. But yeah, if he cant get it together on offense then it'll be tough. But again, it takes time and its early so I would not close the book on him yet. I like the kid and think he can be a rotation player....but maybe he won't. For whatever reason you guys are going crazy over that

I don't want to revisit this conversation but he obviously should get better and he most likely will. I never said otherwise.

F it. There are two conversations, that often get mixed up, which is one of my pet peeves. There's the evaluation of who he is as a player now. That was one of the conversations last season. Then there's the projection of who he'll become in the future.

When I say he wasn't good last year, and when I reply critically to some of the praise he received for his play last year, I do not say he will never improve or he will never become a good player. These are not the same things.

The only thing I have said about his upside is I don't think it is realistic to expect him to become a first or second option on a championship contender. Is that an insult? No, I don't think so. Plenty of great players and key contributors in NBA history have fallen short of that standard. But some folks who DO believe he has Paul Pierce-level upside and franchise player potential do view it as an insult. As "hating". And then it snowballs into juvenile conversations about "oh you're a hater" or "you're anti-this player" or whatever binary BS.

We've already talked about this. It's fine if he tops out as a good 3rd option. It's a much more realistic expectation, even if perhaps a bit optimistic. I think there's a range of outcomes, and it's one of them. I don't even care if some folks think he's going to be an elite 1A/1B type player, why not. Just don't pretend this is common sense and my skepticism is irrational.

I hope McBride pans out. He's a likeable player. I just don't think it's fair to criticize Thibs for not playing a G-Leaguer who so far has been a non-shooter in the NBA over a decent 3&D guard when the team desperately needed floor spacing.

You have made a lot of fair arguments, but have also been pretty harsh too. I don’t know if there’s an easy way out for you here if RJ breaks out

In terms of last season, the season was over early. I do think we should have let the kids play more, and not play every vet 40mpg. Even if they do bad then we get a better pick and better odds. Maybe that is more on management.

This is me if he becomes a superstar



I do think it was more on management as you alluded to. The 2021 offseason was terrible. I also don't think this roster is tailored for young players who don't shoot the 3 well - our frontcourt simply requires 3-point shooting from the backcourt. Curious to see if McBride can adjust to the NBA and make shots - even just open 3s - now that he's gotten some experience in the league. Low expectations for me, but it's entirely possible it was a deer in headlights situation as far as making shots was concerned.

[Monk1718]

Nice move guano

[duetta]

Fournier fever.

[F N 11]

Fournier already pissing me off.

[Chanel Bomber]

The Wizards logo is an atrocity.

[F N 11]

Fournier pissing me off. Please take his job Grimes.

[god shammgod]

y'all don't deserve mitch

[NoDopeOnSundays]

The Wizards roster is an atrocity.

Just as accurate.

[duetta]

Mitch is a heck of a rebounder.

[Monk1718]

Behead those that insult Mitch

[3toheadmelo]

i heard guan0 roots for the wizards as his second team

[Reign23]

what a start

[Chanel Bomber]

Mitch dominating.

Good pass by RJ to Brunson.