2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas, Part 3

[cgf]

That’s quite the haul lol I think they’re asking for 2 unprotected picks in return since that’s like half of what they gave up

Yeah, there's a reason people make jokes about selling Murray being the one good move the spurs have made in the past 5 years

Atlanta really misjudged things after that ECF run and gave up way too much for the completely wrong guy.

Or more likely they are just terribly coached and/or Murray is not the type of guy who should be playing next to a ball dominant PG that can't play off ball much.

Which makes him the completely wrong guy to put next to Trae, no? Aren't you agreeing with what I said?

[cgf]

DeMar heard us talking about him, just 2pts and a team worst -17 at the end of the 1st lol.

I'm pretty sure I could grab a rebound against Vuc & Drummond unless it was going right to them

EDIT:
So the Cavs have gone 13-9 without Mobley & Garland...we should save them from such terrible anchors

[KnixinSix]

Yeah, there's a reason people make jokes about selling Murray being the one good move the spurs have made in the past 5 years

Atlanta really misjudged things after that ECF run and gave up way too much for the completely wrong guy.

Or more likely they are just terribly coached and/or Murray is not the type of guy who should be playing next to a ball dominant PG that can't play off ball much.

Which makes him the completely wrong guy to put next to Trae, no? Aren't you agreeing with what I said?

Which is why very likely he is a better fit here and was stunted in that bad situation in Atl

[TraveyKnicks31]

Imma be honest I’m tired of people gifting players to the lakers for nothing lol even if we don’t get a Murray at least make it difficult for a team like the lakers to acquire players

[sol537]

Fournier, Grimes, Mitch, and DAL 2024 1st for Murray, Capela

Win-win

[cgf]

Or more likely they are just terribly coached and/or Murray is not the type of guy who should be playing next to a ball dominant PG that can't play off ball much.

Which makes him the completely wrong guy to put next to Trae, no? Aren't you agreeing with what I said?

Which is why very likely he is a better fit here and was stunted in that bad situation in Atl

That's a completely different conversation, and I deeply hope that you are right if we end up with him.

But Melo & I were talking about what a disaster Atlanta's trade for him was.

[ctorres]

I honestly think that a trade between the Knicks and Lakers would benefit both franchises

Knicks would get Lebron James

Lakers would get Julius Randle, Evan Fournier, and at least four first round picks, maybe more

Getting Lebron while only giving up Randle and picks puts the Knicks as close to a championship this season as they could possibly be

The Lakers getting picks along with Randle give them the opportunity to rebuild with AD

Knicks are among the only teams that can offer the Lakers a legitimate picks package for Lebron

I know it's unrealistic, but a post season with Lebron, Brunson, and all of our guys would be really freaking fun to watch

[WargamesX]

Yeah baby!!!! MAKE IT HAPPEN LEON!!!!

No

Because a guy averaging 20/5/5 just isn’t what the Knick need at SG or back up PG

Let’s trade for Brogdon whose scored 11 points in the last 4 games because he’s been out due to injury for two of them.

[G_K_F]

Yeah baby!!!! MAKE IT HAPPEN LEON!!!!

No

Because a guy averaging 20/5/5 just isn’t what the Knick need at SG or back up PG

Let’s trade for Brogdon whose scored 11 points in the last 4 games because he’s been out due to injury for two of them.

Trading significant assets for a guy who has proven Jack **** and a weird fit on a mediocre team for 2 years isn’t something I’m longing for.

[WargamesX]

No

Because a guy averaging 20/5/5 just isn’t what the Knick need at SG or back up PG

Let’s trade for Brogdon whose scored 11 points in the last 4 games because he’s been out due to injury for two of them.

Trading significant assets for a guy who has proven Jack **** and a weird fit on a mediocre team for 2 years isn’t something I’m longing for.

Our two best players were from the pile of “guys who haven’t proven Jack squat” now including OG who was injured during that Raptors championship run and only been second team defense. That argument holds no weight for the Knicks, if anything him being a former All star would make Murray the most proven commodity this team has traded for in a while, that isn’t way past their prime.

[Riot Randolph]

Keldon Johnson or Dejounte … I think I lean towards Keldon

[KnixinSix]

Because a guy averaging 20/5/5 just isn’t what the Knick need at SG or back up PG

Let’s trade for Brogdon whose scored 11 points in the last 4 games because he’s been out due to injury for two of them.

Trading significant assets for a guy who has proven Jack **** and a weird fit on a mediocre team for 2 years isn’t something I’m longing for.

Our two best players were from the pile of “guys who haven’t proven Jack squat” now including OG who was injured during that Raptors championship run and only been second team defense. That argument holds no weight for the Knicks, if anything him being a former All star would make Murray the most proven commodity this team has traded for in a while, that isn’t way past their prime.

A 20/5/5 6'5 combo guard who is in a bad situation in Atl and would likely be a whole lot closer to what he proved he could be in SA under better coaching? For 2FRPs on a very reasonable sub 30M dollar contract? Yes please.

[G_K_F]

Because a guy averaging 20/5/5 just isn’t what the Knick need at SG or back up PG

Let’s trade for Brogdon whose scored 11 points in the last 4 games because he’s been out due to injury for two of them.

Trading significant assets for a guy who has proven Jack **** and a weird fit on a mediocre team for 2 years isn’t something I’m longing for.

Our two best players were from the pile of “guys who haven’t proven Jack squat” now including OG who was injured during that Raptors championship run and only been second team defense. That argument holds no weight for the Knicks, if anything him being a former All star would make Murray the most proven commodity this team has traded for in a while, that isn’t way past their prime.

OG was a commodity that many teams wanted for his game changing defensive ability.

Jalen Brunson proved plenty before coming here, which is why I wanted him dating back to 2020. His playoff performances only solidified that.

If anything, Murray is more like the guard version of Julius Randle at this point. Hasn’t contributed a significant amount to winning.

[cgf]

Because a guy averaging 20/5/5 just isn’t what the Knick need at SG or back up PG

Let’s trade for Brogdon whose scored 11 points in the last 4 games because he’s been out due to injury for two of them.

Trading significant assets for a guy who has proven Jack **** and a weird fit on a mediocre team for 2 years isn’t something I’m longing for.

Our two best players were from the pile of “guys who haven’t proven Jack squat” now including OG who was injured during that Raptors championship run and only been second team defense. That argument holds no weight for the Knicks, if anything him being a former All star would make Murray the most proven commodity this team has traded for in a while, that isn’t way past their prime.

TBF all we gambled on our two best players was cap space. OG's also way more proven than Murray, he's been doing what he's doing for us for years. With Murray we would be hoping for a different player than he's been the past 3-4 years.

If we get Murray I'll gave him a fair chance and hope you guys are right...I did hate the Randle signing when it happened, before being one over by his play, so I'm not dogmatic about my opinions...and I was much more negative towards Randle than I have been towards Dejounte.


...but it's disingenuous to suggest he's as a proven as OG, or that sending Atlanta multiple unprotected future FRPs is a comparable risk to giving Brunson or Randle the kind of contract that Murray will just be starting.

[cgf]

Trading significant assets for a guy who has proven Jack **** and a weird fit on a mediocre team for 2 years isn’t something I’m longing for.

Our two best players were from the pile of “guys who haven’t proven Jack squat” now including OG who was injured during that Raptors championship run and only been second team defense. That argument holds no weight for the Knicks, if anything him being a former All star would make Murray the most proven commodity this team has traded for in a while, that isn’t way past their prime.

A 20/5/5 6'5 combo guard who is in a bad situation in Atl and would likely be a whole lot closer to what he proved he could be in SA under better coaching? For 2FRPs on a very reasonable sub 30M dollar contract? Yes please.

He wasn't very different his past few years in SA from the way he's been in Atlanta. So does he just keep going from bad situation to bad situation, or is he part of why places become bad situations after he arrives?

[thebuzzardman]

I actually don't give a f*ck anymore if they make a trade or not. This team isn't it.

[KnixinSix]

Trading significant assets for a guy who has proven Jack **** and a weird fit on a mediocre team for 2 years isn’t something I’m longing for.

Our two best players were from the pile of “guys who haven’t proven Jack squat” now including OG who was injured during that Raptors championship run and only been second team defense. That argument holds no weight for the Knicks, if anything him being a former All star would make Murray the most proven commodity this team has traded for in a while, that isn’t way past their prime.

OG was a commodity that many teams wanted for his game changing defensive ability.

Jalen Brunson proved plenty before coming here, which is why I wanted him dating back to 2020. His playoff performances only solidified that.

If anything, Murray is more like the guard version of Julius Randle at this point. Hasn’t contributed a significant amount to winning.

He is coming in to be our #3 scorer and secondary ball handler. Not the alpha on a championship team.

In that role yes its a great fit.

[sol537]

Fournier + Grimes + two 2nd rounders

For

Burks + Stewart + filler

Gets us two vets to bolster the bench and that Thibs would trust in big spots.

[G_K_F]

Our two best players were from the pile of “guys who haven’t proven Jack squat” now including OG who was injured during that Raptors championship run and only been second team defense. That argument holds no weight for the Knicks, if anything him being a former All star would make Murray the most proven commodity this team has traded for in a while, that isn’t way past their prime.

OG was a commodity that many teams wanted for his game changing defensive ability.

Jalen Brunson proved plenty before coming here, which is why I wanted him dating back to 2020. His playoff performances only solidified that.

If anything, Murray is more like the guard version of Julius Randle at this point. Hasn’t contributed a significant amount to winning.

He is coming in to be our #3 scorer and secondary ball handler. Not the alpha on a championship team.

In that role yes its a great fit.

We need a legitimate #2 option - not a #3.

Randle isn’t a #2.

[Buttah304]

ATL prize of the Murray trade was 25/27 unprotected. That Charlotte pick is hot garbage it’s never converting will end up 2 seconds + pick swap.

I just feel like yesterday’s price ain’t tomorrow for ATL and I think they’ll find out the hard way.

They ain’t getting 2 unprotected 1sts, a pick swap and 2 seconds for Murray. Just can’t see it.