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Re: Woj: Knicks sign Landry Shamet to 1 year deal 

Post#101 » by RHODEY » Fri Dec 13, 2024 1:50 am

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Shamet is two months away even if he is healthy. We need to be at a 9 man rotation way before then. Payne/Deuce/Pac/Precious/Sims should be able to play right now. No excuse for it.
I was thinking closer to 2 weeks...dude is already taking contact and didn't need surgery.
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Re: Woj: Knicks sign Landry Shamet to 1 year deal 

Post#102 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Dec 13, 2024 2:05 am

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Shamet is two months away even if he is healthy. We need to be at a 9 man rotation way before then. Payne/Deuce/Pac/Precious/Sims should be able to play right now. No excuse for it.
I was thinking closer to 2 weeks...dude is already taking contact and didn't need surgery.


We can't sign him without going over the 2nd apron until February 26th. We WON'T sign him and go over the apron before that. His prorated salary allows us to bring him or any vet minimum guy in after that date from what I understand. So he will not be back before that. We also risk another team possibly snatching him from us before that as well.
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Re: Woj: Knicks sign Landry Shamet to 1 year deal 

Post#103 » by WaltFrazier » Fri Dec 13, 2024 5:24 pm

We have enough guards, need a bigger wing rather than Shamet
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Re: Woj: Knicks sign Landry Shamet to 1 year deal 

Post#104 » by Fat Kat » Fri Dec 13, 2024 5:37 pm

WaltFrazier wrote:We have enough guards, need a bigger wing rather than Shamet


We’d be wise to just play Pacome. He has size and I’ve been impressed with his defense in the few minutes he’s played. Probably not gonna find anything better on the scrap pile
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Re: Woj: Knicks sign Landry Shamet to 1 year deal 

Post#105 » by G_K_F » Fri Dec 13, 2024 5:39 pm

Shamet or Dadiet aren't saving the season or drastically improving the worst bench in the league.
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Re: Woj: Knicks sign Landry Shamet to 1 year deal 

Post#106 » by WaltFrazier » Fri Dec 13, 2024 5:42 pm

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WaltFrazier wrote:We have enough guards, need a bigger wing rather than Shamet


We’d be wise to just play Pacome. He has size and I’ve been impressed with his defense in the few minutes he’s played. Probably not gonna find anything better on the scrap pile

Yes it's frustrating that he's not being brought along faster, allowed to play through mistakes and growing pains. Hopefully Westchester minutes will help but Thibs just needs to put him out there for one shift per half
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Re: Woj: Knicks sign Landry Shamet to 1 year deal 

Post#107 » by knicksNOTslick » Fri Dec 13, 2024 10:54 pm

Hes_On_Fire wrote:Shamet or Dadiet aren't saving the season or drastically improving the worst bench in the league.

This is what didn't make sense. Dadiet is a project and we probably should have drafted a rookie that can contribute more now and fits our timeline.
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Re: Woj: Knicks sign Landry Shamet to 1 year deal 

Post#108 » by GONYK » Fri Dec 13, 2024 11:46 pm

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Hes_On_Fire wrote:Shamet or Dadiet aren't saving the season or drastically improving the worst bench in the league.

This is what didn't make sense. Dadiet is a project and we probably should have drafted a rookie that can contribute more now and fits our timeline.


A big part of why Dadiet was drafted was that he agreed to take only 80% of the rookie scale for a 1st round pick and that have us the wiggle room under the apron to make the KAT trade.

It's not the only reason, because the kid has talent as a prospect, but it was a huge consideration.
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Re: Woj: Knicks sign Landry Shamet to 1 year deal 

Post#109 » by Riot Randolph » Sat Dec 14, 2024 2:16 am

Hes_On_Fire wrote:Shamet or Dadiet aren't saving the season or drastically improving the worst bench in the league.

What makes you think we have the worst bench in the league ? Honestly
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Re: Woj: Knicks sign Landry Shamet to 1 year deal 

Post#110 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sat Dec 14, 2024 2:55 am

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Hes_On_Fire wrote:Shamet or Dadiet aren't saving the season or drastically improving the worst bench in the league.

What makes you think we have the worst bench in the league ? Honestly


He hates everything all of the time. Don't let the fact that we haven't had our bench healthy all season get in the way of any complaining. He ain't wrong though. The bench we have had isn't helping win. Especially when only one guy gets more than 12 minutes all year. There's ZERO reason we don't see a lot more of Pac either.
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Re: Woj: Knicks sign Landry Shamet to 1 year deal 

Post#111 » by G_K_F » Sat Dec 14, 2024 8:08 pm

Big FatKAT wrote:
Hes_On_Fire wrote:Shamet or Dadiet aren't saving the season or drastically improving the worst bench in the league.

What makes you think we have the worst bench in the league ? Honestly


Is this a serious question?

Jericho Sims is one of 4 men coming off the bench and he's not an NBA player.

I always like Precious but he's a 15 mpg player. He can't score and doesn't offer any rim protection.

Cam Payne is a streaky unreliable clown.

McBride is great but can't create for himself.

Where is the scoring and defense coming from the bench? Landry Shamet is providing all that firepower?
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Re: Woj: Knicks sign Landry Shamet to 1 year deal 

Post#112 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sat Dec 14, 2024 8:21 pm

Hes_On_Fire wrote:
Big FatKAT wrote:
Hes_On_Fire wrote:Shamet or Dadiet aren't saving the season or drastically improving the worst bench in the league.

What makes you think we have the worst bench in the league ? Honestly


Is this a serious question?

Jericho Sims is one of 4 men coming off the bench and he's not an NBA player.

I always like Precious but he's a 15 mpg player. He can't score and doesn't offer any rim protection.

Cam Payne is a streaky unreliable clown.

McBride is great but can't create for himself.

Where is the scoring and defense coming from the bench? Landry Shamet is providing all that firepower?


Sims hasn't played since Precious came back but, he was defending well this year. But, yeah he sucks.
Precious started and played well for us last season. He's a decent bench player.
Cam has been doing his job just fine this season but, he missed some games.
Deuce can create for himself. He also missed some games.
Scoring and defense would come from Payne/Deuce/Precious if they ever play together. It has only been two games.

The problem with our bench this year has been injuries and Thibs refusal to play anyone else as a result. We really haven't had a bench at all if you look at the games.

As for Shamet, he won't be back until the end of February if he does come back. He provides a little of both.

Payne/Deuce/Shamet/Precious/Mitch would not be a bad bench. Scoring and defense.

Our bench has been non-existent. Everything else you posted was just exaggeration. If we ever get everyone healthy and Mitch or a replacement comes in, we should be fine. I personally think we need to play Mitch next to KAT if we get the opportunity. It could unlock that January-esque team from last year. Problem is, Mitch is walking boot waiting to happen.
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Re: Woj: Knicks sign Landry Shamet to 1 year deal 

Post#113 » by G_K_F » Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:03 pm

The problem is our bench absolutely SUCKS.

If you think otherwise you need to watch more basketball.

Sorry to be a dick but if you're really arguing that a bench with Sims/Precious/Payne/Shamet/McBride is good to great scoring and defense then there's no reason to have this conversation.

They need a bench scorer and a legit center. They won't get both this season.

Windhorst said it best a few weeks ago - this team is like the Suns after the Beal trade. No assets and no room to improve during the season. They'll have to get to the offseason to make some moves.
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Re: Woj: Knicks sign Landry Shamet to 1 year deal 

Post#114 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:25 pm

Hes_On_Fire wrote:The problem is our bench absolutely SUCKS.

If you think otherwise you need to watch more basketball.

Sorry to be a dick but if you're really arguing that a bench with Sims/Precious/Payne/Shamet/McBride is good to great scoring and defense then there's no reason to have this conversation.

They need a bench scorer and a legit center. They won't get both this season.

Windhorst said it best a few weeks ago - this team is like the Suns after the Beal trade. No assets and no room to improve during the season. They'll have to get to the offseason to make some moves.


I'll try again but. maybe you should read it a few times before replying this time.

We have bench scorers and defenders. They haven't been healthy at all this year. They played a total of two games together.

Sims has played good defense this year but, he sucks. Fact.
Precious is not a bad bench player. He defends and can get a few points. Fact.
Cam has been doing his job well but he missed games. He can score and create a lottle. Fact.
Deuce can create for himself and he defends and scores. Fact.
Mitch is the biggest missing piece. Fact
Shamet provides a little of both. Fact

A bench of Payne/Deuce/Shamet/Precious/Mitch would provide scoring and defense. Facts on facts on facts.

Perhaps you should take hooked on phonics courses or reading comprehension classes of some kind before trying to tell me what I need to watch. Were you being a dick? I'll let you decide but, what you weren't being was someone who responded to a single thing I wrote the first time. I never said any of the BS you wrote.

As for the fat Windbag, we are not the Suns. We have moves to make and room to improve during this season. If we could just have everyone healthy we wouldn't be talking about our bench at all. We had 3 of our 4 best bench players together for two whole games this year. The other won't be back for weeks. What have YOU been watching?
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Re: Woj: Knicks sign Landry Shamet to 1 year deal 

Post#115 » by G_K_F » Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:19 pm

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Hes_On_Fire wrote:The problem is our bench absolutely SUCKS.

If you think otherwise you need to watch more basketball.

Sorry to be a dick but if you're really arguing that a bench with Sims/Precious/Payne/Shamet/McBride is good to great scoring and defense then there's no reason to have this conversation.

They need a bench scorer and a legit center. They won't get both this season.

Windhorst said it best a few weeks ago - this team is like the Suns after the Beal trade. No assets and no room to improve during the season. They'll have to get to the offseason to make some moves.


I'll try again but. maybe you should read it a few times before replying this time.

We have bench scorers and defenders. They haven't been healthy at all this year. They played a total of two games together.

Sims has played good defense this year but, he sucks. Fact.
Precious is not a bad bench player. He defends and can get a few points. Fact.
Cam has been doing his job well but he missed games. He can score and create a lottle. Fact.
Deuce can create for himself and he defends and scores. Fact.
Mitch is the biggest missing piece. Fact
Shamet provides a little of both. Fact

A bench of Payne/Deuce/Shamet/Precious/Mitch would provide scoring and defense. Facts on facts on facts.

Perhaps you should take hooked on phonics courses or reading comprehension classes of some kind before trying to tell me what I need to watch. Were you being a dick? I'll let you decide but, what you weren't being was someone who responded to a single thing I wrote the first time. I never said any of the BS you wrote.

As for the fat Windbag, we are not the Suns. We have moves to make and room to improve during this season. If we could just have everyone healthy we wouldn't be talking about our bench at all. We had 3 of our 4 best bench players together for two whole games this year. The other won't be back for weeks. What have YOU been watching?


Just because you type a bunch of words doesn't make it a fact.

The reality is the pretty much nothing you said is a fact.

Precious is, in fact, nothing more than a decent rotational big. Decent is they key word.

Cam Payne is a streak shooting journeyman with poor defense who is not in normal rotations for most serious playoff teams.

Deuce can't create for himself on offense. Shooting 3's and doing line drive live layups isn't creativity. If you think McBride has the creativity of, say, Colby White, then you really have nothing to add that's factual here. McBride is a nice catch and shoot player and great defender. He's not a creator and he's not a point guard. And neither is Cam Payne.

Stop crying about injuries when we've had our entire lineup healthy all season thus far, which is a lot more than most of the league has had with all the injuries. Precious Achiuwa missing one month should not make your team considerably worse.

And if your season depends on Mitchell Robinson's health then you've already lost.

You are the ultimate homer who has to fight everyone on everything. I'm not here to fight about something so obvious. It's quite clear the team is supremely thin on the bench and trying to argue that fact is quite literally insane. Be better.
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Re: Woj: Knicks sign Landry Shamet to 1 year deal 

Post#116 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:28 pm

Hes_On_Fire wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Hes_On_Fire wrote:The problem is our bench absolutely SUCKS.

If you think otherwise you need to watch more basketball.

Sorry to be a dick but if you're really arguing that a bench with Sims/Precious/Payne/Shamet/McBride is good to great scoring and defense then there's no reason to have this conversation.

They need a bench scorer and a legit center. They won't get both this season.

Windhorst said it best a few weeks ago - this team is like the Suns after the Beal trade. No assets and no room to improve during the season. They'll have to get to the offseason to make some moves.


I'll try again but. maybe you should read it a few times before replying this time.

We have bench scorers and defenders. They haven't been healthy at all this year. They played a total of two games together.

Sims has played good defense this year but, he sucks. Fact.
Precious is not a bad bench player. He defends and can get a few points. Fact.
Cam has been doing his job well but he missed games. He can score and create a lottle. Fact.
Deuce can create for himself and he defends and scores. Fact.
Mitch is the biggest missing piece. Fact
Shamet provides a little of both. Fact

A bench of Payne/Deuce/Shamet/Precious/Mitch would provide scoring and defense. Facts on facts on facts.

Perhaps you should take hooked on phonics courses or reading comprehension classes of some kind before trying to tell me what I need to watch. Were you being a dick? I'll let you decide but, what you weren't being was someone who responded to a single thing I wrote the first time. I never said any of the BS you wrote.

As for the fat Windbag, we are not the Suns. We have moves to make and room to improve during this season. If we could just have everyone healthy we wouldn't be talking about our bench at all. We had 3 of our 4 best bench players together for two whole games this year. The other won't be back for weeks. What have YOU been watching?


Just because you type a bunch of words doesn't make it a fact.

The reality is the pretty much nothing you said is a fact.

Precious is, in fact, nothing more than a decent rotational big. Decent is they key word.

Cam Payne is a streak shooting journeyman with poor defense who is not in normal rotations for most serious playoff teams.

Deuce can't create for himself on offense. Shooting 3's and doing line drive live layups isn't creativity. If you think McBride has the creativity of, say, Colby White, then you really have nothing to add that's factual here. McBride is a nice catch and shoot player and great defender. He's not a creator and he's not a point guard. And neither is Cam Payne.

Stop crying about injuries when we've had our entire lineup healthy all season thus far, which is a lot more than most of the league has had with all the injuries. Precious Achiuwa missing one month should not make your team considerably worse.

And if your season depends on Mitchell Robinson's health then you've already lost.

You are the ultimate homer who has to fight everyone on everything. I'm not here to fight about something so obvious. It's quite clear the team is supremely thin on the bench and trying to argue that fact is quite literally insane. Be better.


Precious is a decent BENCH PLAYER! WTF is a solid rotational big? Oh yeah, a DECENT BENCH PLAYER! DUH.

Cam can score and create A LITTLE!! DUH!

Deuce can create FOR HIMSELF! Threes and line drive layups are CREATING for himself. DUH!

Our bench sucks BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD ONE DUE TO INJURIES! DUH!

These are ALL FACTS. DUH!

You can go away and hide like you always do when we are winning. Go cry in the dark and clutch your pearls because you clearly can't read and don't have any comprehension or understanding of the game and what's going on with the team.

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Post#117 » by RHODEY » Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:22 am

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Shamet is two months away even if he is healthy. We need to be at a 9 man rotation way before then. Payne/Deuce/Pac/Precious/Sims should be able to play right now. No excuse for it.
I was thinking closer to 2 weeks...dude is already taking contact and didn't need surgery.


We can't sign him without going over the 2nd apron until February 26th. We WON'T sign him and go over the apron before that. His prorated salary allows us to bring him or any vet minimum guy in after that date from what I understand. So he will not be back before that. We also risk another team possibly snatching him from us before that as well.

Are you sure about that date? He's already back playing for us in the G league and no one is saying we have to wait an additional 2.5 for him to play,
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Re: Woj: Knicks sign Landry Shamet to 1 year deal 

Post#118 » by Jalen Bluntson » Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:32 am

RHODEY wrote:
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RHODEY wrote:I was thinking closer to 2 weeks...dude is already taking contact and didn't need surgery.


We can't sign him without going over the 2nd apron until February 26th. We WON'T sign him and go over the apron before that. His prorated salary allows us to bring him or any vet minimum guy in after that date from what I understand. So he will not be back before that. We also risk another team possibly snatching him from us before that as well.

Are you sure about that date? He's already back playing for us in the G league and no one is saying we have to wait an additional 2.5 for him to play,


Board capologists have repeated this date a few times BUT, can we sign him to a two way or or an exhibit deal and then convert him without hurting the cap? That's the question I raised in the W-Knicks thread when I saw him playing tonight. I didn't actually see him play because when I turned it on he was going to the bench for the rest of the game. That has to be a possibilty right?

As for no one discussing us not having to wait? Most people really haven't figured out the cap/apron rules at all. The podcasts and the YouTubers etc are all morons. And now, let's get started! :lol:
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Re: Woj: Knicks sign Landry Shamet to 1 year deal 

Post#119 » by RHODEY » Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:48 am

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RHODEY wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
We can't sign him without going over the 2nd apron until February 26th. We WON'T sign him and go over the apron before that. His prorated salary allows us to bring him or any vet minimum guy in after that date from what I understand. So he will not be back before that. We also risk another team possibly snatching him from us before that as well.

Are you sure about that date? He's already back playing for us in the G league and no one is saying we have to wait an additional 2.5 for him to play,


Board capologists have repeated this date a few times BUT, can we sign him to a two way or or an exhibit deal and then convert him without hurting the cap? That's the question I raised in the W-Knicks thread when I saw him playing tonight. I didn't actually see him play because when I turned it on he was going to the bench for the rest of the game. That has to be a possibilty right?

As for no one discussing us not having to wait? Most people really haven't figured out the cap/apron rules at all. The podcasts and the YouTubers etc are all morons. And now, let's get started! :lol:

I thought I read somewhere that we would cut Matt Ryan...

and they're not all morons :D , the KnickFanTv crew mentioned Shamet and they know sh it.
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Re: Woj: Knicks sign Landry Shamet to 1 year deal 

Post#120 » by Jalen Bluntson » Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:53 am

RHODEY wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
RHODEY wrote:Are you sure about that date? He's already back playing for us in the G league and no one is saying we have to wait an additional 2.5 for him to play,


Board capologists have repeated this date a few times BUT, can we sign him to a two way or or an exhibit deal and then convert him without hurting the cap? That's the question I raised in the W-Knicks thread when I saw him playing tonight. I didn't actually see him play because when I turned it on he was going to the bench for the rest of the game. That has to be a possibilty right?

As for no one discussing us not having to wait? Most people really haven't figured out the cap/apron rules at all. The podcasts and the YouTubers etc are all morons. And now, let's get started! :lol:

I thought I read somewhere that we would cut Matt Ryan...

and they're not all morons :D , the KnickFanTv crew mentioned Shamet and they know sh it.


I didn't mean to say ALL morons, just the guys you like! :lol: J/K bro.

I thought it was as simple as cutting Ryan but, again, a board capologist told me that wasn't the case a few weeks back. If so, that would be awesome because Ryan sucks!!
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