2025 Summer League Game 5: Consolation prize Knicks versus Wizards 3:30 pm on NBA TV.

Fat Kat · Post #101 » by **Fat Kat** » Sun Jul 20, 2025 1:56 am

Guano wrote:What the hell happened to mark price or was it Stockton? Whatever it was this is vv disappointing...

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He’s just not strong enough. He can’t move defenders at all. Constantly gets stone walled. Has to shoot the three better to make up for his lack of strength and speed. Hopeless on the defensive end.

Guano · Post #102 » by **Guano** » Sun Jul 20, 2025 2:08 am

Fat Kat wrote:
Guano wrote:What the hell happened to mark price or was it Stockton? Whatever it was this is vv disappointing...

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He’s just not strong enough. He can’t move defenders at all. Constantly gets stone walled. Has to shoot the three better to make up for his lack of strength and speed. Hopeless on the defensive end.

The lack of strength was a real issue last year, too.

Unfortunate cause we could really use a traditional pg off the bench. But even those a/t numbers are putrid.

WaltFrazier · Post #103 » by **WaltFrazier** » Sun Jul 20, 2025 4:44 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:What stands out is his footwork defensively, his length (no pause he really has long arms), quickness and control with the ball in his hands in transition.

I mean obviously we need to see him versus NBA level comp but there is a lot to work with. He reminds me of early Pascal Siakam

I've posted the same comparison, to Siakam, a couple times too. I'm really seeing that. Hope the team can develop him at Westchester this year plus some time in the big team

thebuzzardman · Post #104 » by **thebuzzardman** » Sun Jul 20, 2025 4:55 pm

Guano wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:Who was the big guy who drove and dished for that corner 3????

Mo D

He's still a little raw, but there's a lot that's already developed.

He's not raw as in "maybe" but "when"

Missed the game but absolutely loved reading the thread.

Knicks being lead to the promise land by the French!

Inevitable reaction though:

BKlutch · Post #105 » by **BKlutch** » Sun Jul 20, 2025 5:00 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Guano wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Mo D

He's still a little raw, but there's a lot that's already developed.

He's not raw as in "maybe" but "when"

Missed the game but absolutely loved reading the thread.

Knicks being lead to the promise land by the French!

Inevitable reaction though:

Nah, Thibs used to kill the kids before they played, but I think what Brown will do for us is like that Chinese proverb - let all flowers blossom, just kill the damn weeds.

MrDollarBills · Post #106 » by **MrDollarBills** » Sun Jul 20, 2025 7:47 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Guano wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Mo D

He's still a little raw, but there's a lot that's already developed.

He's not raw as in "maybe" but "when"

Missed the game but absolutely loved reading the thread.

Knicks being lead to the promise land by the French!

Inevitable reaction though:

Let them eat cake, mon amie

MrDollarBills · Post #107 » by **MrDollarBills** » Sun Jul 20, 2025 7:48 pm

WaltFrazier wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:What stands out is his footwork defensively, his length (no pause he really has long arms), quickness and control with the ball in his hands in transition.

I mean obviously we need to see him versus NBA level comp but there is a lot to work with. He reminds me of early Pascal Siakam

I've posted the same comparison, to Siakam, a couple times too. I'm really seeing that. Hope the team can develop him at Westchester this year plus some time in the big team

Just getting him reps during the season defensively will be a big help to the team. Like he's literally the perfect development piece of play behind OG.

MrDollarBills · Post #108 » by **MrDollarBills** » Sun Jul 20, 2025 7:54 pm

Guano wrote:What the hell happened to mark price or was it Stockton? Whatever it was this is vv disappointing...

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See this is why I warned folks not to throw out the name Mark Price like that :lol:

that dude was no joke.

But I think it's imperative now that we get another vet guard on the roster. Kolek struggling in SL is honestly unnerving. Like I'm not saying he should be destroying people but we saw better play from him versus NBA competition than this slop

3toheadmelo · Post #109 » by **3toheadmelo** » Sun Jul 20, 2025 7:57 pm

Guano wrote:What the hell happened to mark price or was it Stockton? Whatever it was this is vv disappointing...

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the mpharris curse is very nasty

Guano · Post #110 » by **Guano** » Sun Jul 20, 2025 8:41 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Guano wrote:What the hell happened to mark price or was it Stockton? Whatever it was this is vv disappointing...

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See this is why I warned folks not to throw out the name Mark Price like that that dude was no joke.

But I think it's imperative now that we get another vet guard on the roster. Kolek struggling in SL is honestly unnerving. Like I'm not saying he should be destroying people but we saw better play from him versus NBA competition than this slop

Team structure seemed a lil fcked up during sl so maybe that was it. Or he is dealing with something. Idk, the numbers are putrid. Worse than what he has shown. But the concerns are there. He doesn't seem to have an nba body and like others pointed out he needs to put up big offensive numbers to make up for his poor defense.

Time to bring back everybody's favorite chucker

Ravenxvirall · Post #111 » by **Ravenxvirall** » Sun Jul 20, 2025 9:50 pm

Guano wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Guano wrote:What the hell happened to mark price or was it Stockton? Whatever it was this is vv disappointing...

Read on Twitter

See this is why I warned folks not to throw out the name Mark Price like that that dude was no joke.

But I think it's imperative now that we get another vet guard on the roster. Kolek struggling in SL is honestly unnerving. Like I'm not saying he should be destroying people but we saw better play from him versus NBA competition than this slop

Team structure seemed a lil fcked up during sl so maybe that was it. Or he is dealing with something. Idk, the numbers are putrid. Worse than what he has shown. But the concerns are there. He doesn't seem to have an nba body and like others pointed out he needs to put up big offensive numbers to make up for his poor defense.

Time to bring back everybody's favorite chucker

Lmao that form

Guano · Post #112 » by **Guano** » Sun Jul 20, 2025 10:14 pm

Ravenxvirall wrote:
Guano wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
See this is why I warned folks not to throw out the name Mark Price like that that dude was no joke.

But I think it's imperative now that we get another vet guard on the roster. Kolek struggling in SL is honestly unnerving. Like I'm not saying he should be destroying people but we saw better play from him versus NBA competition than this slop

Team structure seemed a lil fcked up during sl so maybe that was it. Or he is dealing with something. Idk, the numbers are putrid. Worse than what he has shown. But the concerns are there. He doesn't seem to have an nba body and like others pointed out he needs to put up big offensive numbers to make up for his poor defense.

Time to bring back everybody's favorite chucker

Lmao that form

from Curry range with time on the shot clock.

Post #113 » by **Luv those Knicks** » Sun Jul 20, 2025 10:25 pm

Orange Mamba wrote:30 is terrible and shoots way too much

Devon Grant. Yes, he's pretty bad. He might be shooting bricks for Westchester this year, but even for summer league he's not good. At least, that was my impression a few games ago.

WaltFrazier · Post #114 » by **WaltFrazier** » Mon Jul 21, 2025 12:33 am

Can't believe I recorded this game but I did and just finished watching.

Kolek looked better last summer league, when we were contrasting him with Rokas. And Rokas was pretty good, better than Baba.

Pate has an NBA body and is athletic. Needs to tighten his handle as does Diawara . Both hopefully do well in GLeague this year. Not sure they can catch up to the timeline of the current core, and contribute.

Post #115 » by **Luv those Knicks** » Mon Jul 21, 2025 12:43 am

VirginiaKnickFan wrote:How has Nnaji looked, I haven't watched many summer games.

He's big. He's not one of those skinny tall guys, he's got some bulk to him, but not in a slow way, he's built a little bit like Dwight Howard.

But that's not a Howard comp, because Howard could play and got ROY votes and Nnaji is raw. He made some good rebounds. There are some tools there, but he's either a two-way contract this year or a stash in Europe, but there's a chance he becomes a useful rotation player in a couple years. I think there's some upside.

NYKat · Post #116 » by **NYKat** » Tue Jul 22, 2025 12:08 am

Edit: Don’t realize it was a replay, lol

WaltFrazier · Post #117 » by **WaltFrazier** » Tue Jul 22, 2025 1:57 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
Guano wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Mo D

He's still a little raw, but there's a lot that's already developed.

He's not raw as in "maybe" but "when"

Missed the game but absolutely loved reading the thread.

Knicks being lead to the promise land by the French!

Inevitable reaction though:

I read the guillotine operators in France are on strike. They want more severance pay.

Sorry

Ravenxvirall · Post #118 » by **Ravenxvirall** » Tue Jul 22, 2025 6:20 am

Guano wrote:
Ravenxvirall wrote:
Guano wrote:
Team structure seemed a lil fcked up during sl so maybe that was it. Or he is dealing with something. Idk, the numbers are putrid. Worse than what he has shown. But the concerns are there. He doesn't seem to have an nba body and like others pointed out he needs to put up big offensive numbers to make up for his poor defense.

Time to bring back everybody's favorite chucker

Lmao that form

from Curry range with time on the shot clock.

Lmao you know that shot clock was at like 17 seconds. Dude is a terrible version of jr smith. Or a twisted Jamal Crawford with way less in the bag hahaha.

closg00 · Post #119 » by **closg00** » Tue Jul 22, 2025 3:17 pm

GettinitDone wrote:Pate has some Reddish (the good parts) in him

He's hungry and he could be the potential star talent to get on the cheap Leon's been trying to get since Cam

Poor man’s Ace Bailey, I think he can make it.

BKlutch · Post #120 » by **BKlutch** » Tue Jul 22, 2025 5:15 pm

closg00 wrote:
GettinitDone wrote:Pate has some Reddish (the good parts) in him

He's hungry and he could be the potential star talent to get on the cheap Leon's been trying to get since Cam

Poor man’s Ace Bailey, I think he can make it.

Pate's ceiling seems very high, but his floor is still a bit low. I have a really good feeling about this young kid and want to see him turn into something special for us.