Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II

[frogfood]

What Phil said publicly is that they think KP is a unicorn, and that they think they can repair the relationship.

Phil admitted that he's taken calls on KP and nothing has intrigued.

So all in all, Phil said he likes KP and hasn't heard anything worth trading him for.

Nothing publicly shaming or antagonizing about that.

Not that hard to understand

What vacuum are you living in?! I get that being a company man is your thing and all but, are you living off the grid?

Being a company man?

You're speaking from nothing from emotion with literally nothing to back it up.

Do you think the relationship between KP and Phil has improved since 2 days ago? Players do not like their names publicly put out there in trade talks by their own GM, case in point, Melo.

Do you think Phil's stooge, Rosen putting out that stupid hitpiece was a good idea? Or equally innocuous like EVERYTHING else I'm assuming

[Fat Kat]

What if Portland reaches out and offers Lillard and trades 2 of their first round picks for a lottery pick and trades both to the Knicks for KP.

Lillard + top 10 pick for KP + O'Quinn

Nope

[NYKnicksTAPE]

you could have just fined him or decided to sit him for a game or two if you wanted to punish him for missing the meeting. this doesn't accomplish teaching him a lesson. it's taking a cut and pouring lemon juice on it. you're just making it worse. i don't buy that it's all just for show anyway. no one of sound mind would operate like that.

Why would he go through all of this to teach a player a lesson? What FO executive in the NBA does that? This isn't improving their relationship. The gawd Janis will retaliate lol. This has just made us look like more of a joke. The Knicks have been getting clowned on non-stop since yesterday. Phil is asking for so much because he has to make sure that there's no doubt that he won this trade. He can't do another Chandler or Shump with KP.

[frogfood]

No, when you continue to act like a teenage girl and ignore your bosses due to something that has nothing to do with you, you deserve what you get. How many other rookies/second year players are pulling this ****?

Does it matter though? Players who are good enough will get what they want and that's history. Eli didn't want to play for SD and look where he is at now.

Situations aren't the same

Oh, sorry. Chris Webber work?

[frogfood]

you could have just fined him or decided to sit him for a game or two if you wanted to punish him for missing the meeting. this doesn't accomplish teaching him a lesson. it's taking a cut and pouring lemon juice on it. you're just making it worse. i don't buy that it's all just for show anyway. no one of sound mind would operate like that.

Why would he go through all of this to teach a player a lesson? What FO executive in the NBA does that? This isn't improving their relationship. The gawd Janis will retaliate lol. This has just made us look like more of a joke. The Knicks have been getting clowned on non-stop since yesterday. Phil is asking for so much because he has to make sure that there's no doubt that he won this trade. He can't do another Chandler or Shump with KP.

IF....big if....he even got a king's ransom say "both Nets picks and a player" you would STILL want to keep KP, all things considered.

[Traveyknicks23]

Does it matter though? Players who are good enough will get what they want and that's history. Eli didn't want to play for SD and look where he is at now.

Situations aren't the same

Oh, sorry. Chris Webber work?

Actually no give me another

[shtolky]

you could have just fined him or decided to sit him for a game or two if you wanted to punish him for missing the meeting. this doesn't accomplish teaching him a lesson. it's taking a cut and pouring lemon juice on it. you're just making it worse. i don't buy that it's all just for show anyway. no one of sound mind would operate like that.

Why would he go through all of this to teach a player a lesson? What FO executive in the NBA does that? This has just made us look like more of a joke. The Knicks have been getting clowned on non-stop since yesterday. Phil is asking for so much because he has to make sure that there's no doubt that he won this trade. He can't do another Chandler or Shump with KP.

Phil is asking for so much because, as he said, we value KP and we love KP, but we have to do what's best for the club. It could not be less complicated than that. You think because the media is having a field day that it means something to our need to improve the team? F the media, F twitter, who cares. Shouldn't he WANT to win the trade and get as much as possible? How is this a negative?

[frogfood]

Situations aren't the same

Oh, sorry. Chris Webber work?

Actually no give me another

oh well, go to bed.

[Knox]

I really feel that Both Phil and Ainge are waiting to see who blinks after the second pick of the draft is made

[duetta]

What does any of that have to do with this situation?

KP is being shopped because he has concluded that our franchise is highly dysfunctional. It is. It has been for years. Phil is absolutely a part of that dysfunction.

I don't agree with KP blowing off the exit interview, or not returning Jeff's call. But it's taken us so long to acquire a player who could impact the game on both ends of the court.

Phil needed to handle the Anthony situation behind the scenes. He needed to stop leaking his displeasure through Rosen. He's only made the situation worse - and, as you well remember, I am the original Anthony hater.

Phil has actually made Anthony into a sympathetic figure for me.

[Traveyknicks23]

Oh, sorry. Chris Webber work?

Actually no give me another

oh well, go to bed.

Not tired and it's only 5:14 lol thanks for caring tho!

[frogfood]

you could have just fined him or decided to sit him for a game or two if you wanted to punish him for missing the meeting. this doesn't accomplish teaching him a lesson. it's taking a cut and pouring lemon juice on it. you're just making it worse. i don't buy that it's all just for show anyway. no one of sound mind would operate like that.

Why would he go through all of this to teach a player a lesson? What FO executive in the NBA does that? This has just made us look like more of a joke. The Knicks have been getting clowned on non-stop since yesterday. Phil is asking for so much because he has to make sure that there's no doubt that he won this trade. He can't do another Chandler or Shump with KP.

Phil is asking for so much because, as he said, we value KP and we love KP, but we have to do what's best for the club. It could not be less complicated than that. You think because the media is having a field day that it means something to our need to improve the team? F the media, F twitter, who cares. Shouldn't he WANT to win the trade and get as much as possible? How is this a negative?

You see how this is backfiring right? No trade will be made, in all likelihood, and now KP hates you even more. You'd THINK Phil learned his lesson from his dealings with Melo this past.

And sure F the media and twitter but that does affect prospective free agents' perceptions.

[Amsterdam]

Spoiler:

Read on Twitter

Phil's playing chess like a bully!

[frogfood]

What does any of that have to do with this situation?

KP is being shopped because he has concluded that our franchise is highly dysfunctional. It is. It has been for years. Phil is absolutely a part of that dysfunction.

I don't agree with KP blowing off the exit interview, or not returning Jeff's call. But it's taken us so long to acquire a player who could impact the game on both ends of the court.

Phil needed to handle the Anthony situation behind the scenes. He needed to stop leaking his displeasure through Rosen. He's only made the situation worse - and, as you well remember, I am the original Anthony hater.

Phil has actually made Anthony into a sympathetic figure for me.

Same, thank you.

[GONYK]

What vacuum are you living in?! I get that being a company man is your thing and all but, are you living off the grid?

Being a company man?

You're speaking from nothing from emotion with literally nothing to back it up.

Do you think the relationship between KP and Phil has improved since 2 days ago? Players do not like their names publicly put out there in trade talks by their own GM, case in point, Melo.

Do you think Phil's stooge, Rosen putting out that stupid hitpiece was a good idea? Or equally innocuous like EVERYTHING else I'm assuming

The relationship will improve when KP picks up the phone.

Why should we care what players like when they are actively refusing to work the organization? I don't understand this need to kowtow to someone on a rookie contract with 2 more years on it.

The Rosen article is getting more attention because of the relationship between him and Phil. That's fair. I don't think it matters in the big scheme of things when Phil is asking the moon and stars for KP in trades, and will probably end up keeping him.

[Sark]

Read on Twitter

So true.

[Capn'O]

you could have just fined him or decided to sit him for a game or two if you wanted to punish him for missing the meeting. this doesn't accomplish teaching him a lesson. it's taking a cut and pouring lemon juice on it. you're just making it worse. i don't buy that it's all just for show anyway. no one of sound mind would operate like that.

I think he was trying to bend over Ainge (or some other team) and it didn't work.

i keep saying though. it's not bending those teams over. we should get both nets picks. we should get booker and 4. those are fair deals that don't make the knicks look they were robbed. anything less and we'd be even more of a laughingstock, which doesn't even seem possible. i don't know why wanting fair value is proof of him not wanting to trade kp. he can't even find a trade that's better than just cutting melo because he wants fair value. and we know for sure he wants to trade him.

I thought two top 10s + another pick + brown and crowder was beyond fair value tbh.

Melo's a different can of worms. He **** that up.

[Fat Kat]

you could have just fined him or decided to sit him for a game or two if you wanted to punish him for missing the meeting. this doesn't accomplish teaching him a lesson. it's taking a cut and pouring lemon juice on it. you're just making it worse. i don't buy that it's all just for show anyway. no one of sound mind would operate like that.

Why would he go through all of this to teach a player a lesson? What FO executive in the NBA does that? This has just made us look like more of a joke. The Knicks have been getting clowned on non-stop since yesterday. Phil is asking for so much because he has to make sure that there's no doubt that he won this trade. He can't do another Chandler or Shump with KP.

Phil is asking for so much because, as he said, we value KP and we love KP, but we have to do what's best for the club. It could not be less complicated than that. You think because the media is having a field day that it means something to our need to improve the team? F the media, F twitter, who cares. Shouldn't he WANT to win the trade and get as much as possible? How is this a negative?

+1. Unfortunately, most of these folks don't have the fortitude to withstand the reporters tweaking them. And the press counts on that

[Amsterdam]

Why would he go through all of this to teach a player a lesson? What FO executive in the NBA does that? This has just made us look like more of a joke. The Knicks have been getting clowned on non-stop since yesterday. Phil is asking for so much because he has to make sure that there's no doubt that he won this trade. He can't do another Chandler or Shump with KP.

Phil is asking for so much because, as he said, we value KP and we love KP, but we have to do what's best for the club. It could not be less complicated than that. You think because the media is having a field day that it means something to our need to improve the team? F the media, F twitter, who cares. Shouldn't he WANT to win the trade and get as much as possible? How is this a negative?

You see how this is backfiring right? No trade will be made, in all likelihood, and now KP hates you even more. You'd THINK Phil learned his lesson from his dealings with Melo this past.

And sure F the media and twitter but that does affect prospective free agents' perceptions.

Its beyond this. Phil toying with Ainge and teaching PK a lesson: PK better fall in line with what's expected of him.

[shtolky]

Why would he go through all of this to teach a player a lesson? What FO executive in the NBA does that? This has just made us look like more of a joke. The Knicks have been getting clowned on non-stop since yesterday. Phil is asking for so much because he has to make sure that there's no doubt that he won this trade. He can't do another Chandler or Shump with KP.

Phil is asking for so much because, as he said, we value KP and we love KP, but we have to do what's best for the club. It could not be less complicated than that. You think because the media is having a field day that it means something to our need to improve the team? F the media, F twitter, who cares. Shouldn't he WANT to win the trade and get as much as possible? How is this a negative?

You see how this is backfiring right? No trade will be made, in all likelihood, and now KP hates you even more. You'd THINK Phil learned his lesson from his dealings with Melo this past.

And sure F the media and twitter but that does affect prospective free agents' perceptions.

You know a trade won't be made? You got the powerball numbers also?

Speculating on KP "hating" Phil when he probably doesn't hate anyone.

Go back and actually read what Phil said about Melo. Read his words carefully. He was bordering on graciousness when it came to Melo. When did Melo, one of the most selfish players of the past 15 years, become a martyr?

I am glad Phil is doing due diligence to improve the team. Nobody should be untouchable.

Why do we need to sign free agents so badly right now? Are players lining up to go to any of the teams in the lottery other than the Celtics? You know, people have been saying since Dolan was hired we've been a joke and yet every year we have cap space we manage to spend it.

The hyperbole is a bit much.