2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 6) -LOTTO 8/20 DRAFT 10/16!

[HEZI]

I like Tillman. He can be a KOQ backup big. Give you good hard minutes...play defense, rebounds and good passer with a nice touch around the rim. Maybe a bit undersized but is smart and moves well.

Probably more mobile than KOQ. Could see him finding a nice role on a contender or a potential contender down the road.

yeah I would say a bit more mobile and maybe a bit more smarter. KOQ was a foul machine.

But Tillman is a grinder. Any team could use him to play solid minutes off the bench. I could see him going anywhere from late 1st to early 2nd. Wouldn't mind him at all could be great front court depth.

He has a Paul Millsap type of potential, maybe he gets there maybe he doesn't but the tools are there. If he can keep improving on that outside shot and bring some consistency there, he could be a really solid pickup for somebody. I like him and Winston

[3toheadmelo]

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[newyorker4ever]

Probably more mobile than KOQ. Could see him finding a nice role on a contender or a potential contender down the road.

yeah I would say a bit more mobile and maybe a bit more smarter. KOQ was a foul machine.

But Tillman is a grinder. Any team could use him to play solid minutes off the bench. I could see him going anywhere from late 1st to early 2nd. Wouldn't mind him at all could be great front court depth.

He has a Paul Millsap type of potential, maybe he gets there maybe he doesn't but the tools are there. If he can keep improving on that outside shot and bring some consistency there, he could be a really solid pickup for somebody. I like him and Winston

There's a huge difference between KOQ and P.Milsap...HUGE.

[Worst_to_First]

Fawk wood. If we replacing Randle then give me this guy

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He may turn out to be an even better as a Pro in the right environment. How does he compare to Kwahi's college numbers.? (I'm too lazy to look it up right now )

Seriously though, without a trade Precious Achiuwa's minutes will be severely restricted.

Plus after watching his interview with Mike Schmitz, he's a expresses himself a little too cocky for what I believe is Walt Perrin draft profile. Pop is very similar in that respect.

Quite similar actually. Both averaged 15 and 10. But I dont see much Kawhi in his game. More Siakam like. I think Pop would turn him into a stud

I still see Spicy P more in Paul Reed than Precious. I guess it is more of the smoothness in how they operate as opposed to energy and athleticism.

At this point I’d rather keep the 27. I think there are potential studs that could be had with our late first and early second.

For Pop it would be interesting if these whispers of him going to the Nets are true.

[HEZI]

yeah I would say a bit more mobile and maybe a bit more smarter. KOQ was a foul machine.

But Tillman is a grinder. Any team could use him to play solid minutes off the bench. I could see him going anywhere from late 1st to early 2nd. Wouldn't mind him at all could be great front court depth.

He has a Paul Millsap type of potential, maybe he gets there maybe he doesn't but the tools are there. If he can keep improving on that outside shot and bring some consistency there, he could be a really solid pickup for somebody. I like him and Winston

There's a huge difference between KOQ and P.Milsap...HUGE.

Thank you captain obvious

[HEZI]

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[Thepaintismine]

Realistically what does #27 and #38 get you if want to move up in this draft. To be fair, I wish Frank had shown a little more value because I wouldn’t mind moving him if the Knicks absolutely had their hearts set on another player between #14-#17 for argument sake. My issue with even the thought of trading Frank is that it’s the epitome of selling low. Why on earth he can’t just become a 39% three point shooter is beyond me at this point. As fans we are asking him to play excellent defense, run the point on occasion while Knocking down 3s consistently (this should be his main point of focus every single off season, before practice, after practice. If he can’t do that by year 4 it’s time to move on.

That will change as cats fall during that draft.
In general yall I would say we can move up to 22 ish, give or take, shake and bake.

Frank Stays.

they could also possibly move up/acquire another 1st by taking on a contract another team is trying to shed, rather than giving up an asset

with financial uncertainty due to covid, more teams could be looking to move their 1st to rid themselves of a contract. IMO this is a better use of cap space than signing some 1yr mercenaries. Still can't believe they didn't do it last offseason. 70M in cap space, but they had to give 8M to Ellington and 15M to Portis (who I actually like, just not for 15M); should have used some of the space to acquire more picks

U gots that right. Almost like managment is doin a little sabatoge.

I don't get how, with smaller capacities due to the CV 1 to the 9, teams B signing playa's to regular contracts? Pro rated?

[WargamesX]

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Knicks might have to move up to get him. He’s also a family man/gym rat which fits the culture I think they’ve been building in NY

[3toheadmelo]

Unathletic undersized 6-8 big that can’t shoot. No thanks to kyle o Tillman.

[newyorker4ever]

He has a Paul Millsap type of potential, maybe he gets there maybe he doesn't but the tools are there. If he can keep improving on that outside shot and bring some consistency there, he could be a really solid pickup for somebody. I like him and Winston

There's a huge difference between KOQ and P.Milsap...HUGE.

Thank you captain obvious

You're welcome. I figured if you were gonna compare one player to KOQ and then also compare that same player to P.Milsap that you needed some help which i gave you.

[knickstape21]

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You are BUGGIN if you taking Tillman over Achiuwa.

Tired of lumpy, smaller bigs like that. Give me the versatile, younger, athlete to build on.

Please don’t throw the stats at me, please. Achiuwa would absolutely dominate as a Junior in college.

[Fat]

I like Tillman but at 27 that seems kind of a reach he’s second round material. I guess he could be a 1st rounder in this draft though.

[newyorker4ever]

I like Tillman but at 27 that seems kind of a reach he’s second round material. I guess he could be a 1st rounder in this draft though.

We all know that this is a weak draft at the top but the talent after lets say the top 10 (probably closer to top 6-8) or so is really close with say the next 15-20 players, i think the whole draft is getting a bad rap just because there's no super star talent in the top of the draft. I think we can find the same level/talent of player at 27 that can be found at the end of the lottery or just outside the lottery and i'm talking about guys that can start on teams good or bad. Now of course there's always gonna be players drafted at all parts of the draft from top 10 to 20 to 30 that will end up busts but there's gonna be players to get all through those parts of the drafts that will end up good players as well. So now all the Knicks have to do is find the right players.....no problem.

[3toheadmelo]

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[knickstape4ever]

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probably hedging just in case Knicks fall to 7 or 8. He'd probably rather go top 3 somewhere else than 7/8 to the Knicks

unless there's a disconnect between LaMelo/Jackson and LaVar, which wouldn't be the worst thing b/c LaVar is and I want no part of Gelo

[Fat]

I like Tillman but at 27 that seems kind of a reach he’s second round material. I guess he could be a 1st rounder in this draft though.

We all know that this is a weak draft at the top but the talent after lets say the top 10 (probably closer to top 6-8) or so is really close with say the next 15-20 players, i think the whole draft is getting a bad rap just because there's no super star talent in the top of the draft. I think we can find the same level/talent of player at 27 that can be found at the end of the lottery or just outside the lottery and i'm talking about guys that can start on teams good or bad. Now of course there's always gonna be players drafted at all parts of the draft from top 10 to 20 to 30 that will end up busts but there's gonna be players to get all through those parts of the drafts that will end up good players as well. So now all the Knicks have to do is find the right players.....no problem.

yeah i feel you and agree but still i think someone with higher upside can easily be there at 27. i mean i wouldnt be mad at tillman at 27 because i still like him and he has a positive impact on the floor you know he's going to bring it when he plays but i like him more early in the second 31-35 range.

[3toheadmelo]

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probably hedging just in case Knicks fall to 7 or 8. He'd probably rather go top 3 somewhere else than 7/8 to the Knicks

unless there's a disconnect between LaMelo/Jackson and LaVar, which wouldn't be the worst thing b/c LaVar is and I want no part of Gelo

He prob wants New York but also likes other teams as well.

Has Lavar ever said that LaMelo only wants NY though?

[Fat]

while we on big men how yall feel about vernon carey? is his game outdated for todays NBA? i think he can surprise some folks

[Fat]

Probably more mobile than KOQ. Could see him finding a nice role on a contender or a potential contender down the road.

yeah I would say a bit more mobile and maybe a bit more smarter. KOQ was a foul machine.

But Tillman is a grinder. Any team could use him to play solid minutes off the bench. I could see him going anywhere from late 1st to early 2nd. Wouldn't mind him at all could be great front court depth.

He has a Paul Millsap type of potential, maybe he gets there maybe he doesn't but the tools are there. If he can keep improving on that outside shot and bring some consistency there, he could be a really solid pickup for somebody. I like him and Winston

milsap is high praise lol but

Tillman @27
Winston in the 2nd round



They would strengthen our bench at least

Winston
Ntilkina
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Knox
Tillman