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Post#1001 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Oct 1, 2021 6:13 pm

robillionaire wrote:I was thinking when he entered the league Mitch had the physical tools to be in the mold of Anthony Davis if he just added a jumper (as did others who didn't want to include him in a trade for the real Anthony Davis or LaMelo or other superstar players) but he doesn't seem to have the mentality or work ethic to become better. He's been documented in the past for his fortnite addiction and he was playing fortnite this summer so that should have been a warning. He's about to be going where you-know-who went and he will be starting for the Mavericks in 2022-2023.


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Post#1002 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Oct 1, 2021 6:15 pm

Capn'O wrote:Maybe Mitch bulked up to try to do battle with some of the bigger centers. He certainly struggled with that. But he almost certainly loses some of his uniqueness with that physique. Hope he didn't skip leg day. And lets it fly.


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Post#1003 » by Capn'O » Fri Oct 1, 2021 6:21 pm

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Capn'O wrote:Maybe Mitch bulked up to try to do battle with some of the bigger centers. He certainly struggled with that. But he almost certainly loses some of his uniqueness with that physique. Hope he didn't skip leg day. And lets it fly.


You’re going to die on that Mitch Shoot Threes hill aren’t you?


Mitch is gonna die on his own hill if he keeps chickening out. Even Noel shot considerably more from out of the paint. He just needs to do it or his spot in this league is gonna be a lot more limited than it could have been.
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Post#1004 » by BKlutch » Fri Oct 1, 2021 6:27 pm

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Capn'O wrote:Maybe Mitch bulked up to try to do battle with some of the bigger centers. He certainly struggled with that. But he almost certainly loses some of his uniqueness with that physique. Hope he didn't skip leg day. And lets it fly.


You’re going to die on that Mitch Shoot Threes hill aren’t you?


Mitch is gonna die on his own hill if he keeps chickening out. Even Noel shot considerably more from out of the paint. He just needs to do it or his spot in this league is gonna be a lot more limited than it could have been.

Did Mitch really chicken out? Or was he told not to do it?
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Post#1005 » by Capn'O » Fri Oct 1, 2021 6:37 pm

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You’re going to die on that Mitch Shoot Threes hill aren’t you?


Mitch is gonna die on his own hill if he keeps chickening out. Even Noel shot considerably more from out of the paint. He just needs to do it or his spot in this league is gonna be a lot more limited than it could have been.

Did Mitch really chicken out? Or was he told not to do it?


He said it during his rookie year but I'm not sure I buy that excuse today. If he's got the tools he would be deployed. Even Noel takes _some_ shots and he takes none.
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Post#1006 » by robillionaire » Fri Oct 1, 2021 6:43 pm

Capn'O wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Capn'O wrote:Maybe Mitch bulked up to try to do battle with some of the bigger centers. He certainly struggled with that. But he almost certainly loses some of his uniqueness with that physique. Hope he didn't skip leg day. And lets it fly.


You’re going to die on that Mitch Shoot Threes hill aren’t you?


Mitch is gonna die on his own hill if he keeps chickening out. Even Noel shot considerably more from out of the paint. He just needs to do it or his spot in this league is gonna be a lot more limited than it could have been.


I don't think it's about courage, I just don't think the coaching staff gave him the green light to shoot 3s. I used to blame the coaches for this because I wanted him to let it fly but then after seeing him shoot sub-50% from the FT line with a grotesque form I think there's a good reason. Do we have on record any sub-50% FT shooting center suddenly hitting 3s? Did Ben Wallace or DeAndre Jordan or Shaq or Capela or Drummond, etc etc. become a deep threat? We might be asking for something unprecedented to happen at this point
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Post#1007 » by F N 11 » Fri Oct 1, 2021 7:04 pm

Im assuming its sarcasm or yall just dont know what fat is.
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Post#1008 » by BKlutch » Fri Oct 1, 2021 7:32 pm

F N 11 wrote:Im assuming its sarcasm or yall just dont know what fat is.

yeah, I wish I could be as fat as Mitch is.
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Post#1009 » by thebuzzardman » Fri Oct 1, 2021 7:33 pm

F N 11 wrote:Im assuming its sarcasm or yall just dont know what fat is.


Absolutely sarcasm. Anyone can see he's not fat but that those cheeks are roid swollen. I bet he'd fail a piss test for it for it now. Certainly in the summer. Maybe they've flushed out by now. Lookin like Barry Bonds x James Harden.
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Post#1010 » by BKlutch » Fri Oct 1, 2021 7:33 pm

Capn'O wrote:
BKlutch wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
Mitch is gonna die on his own hill if he keeps chickening out. Even Noel shot considerably more from out of the paint. He just needs to do it or his spot in this league is gonna be a lot more limited than it could have been.

Did Mitch really chicken out? Or was he told not to do it?


He said it during his rookie year but I'm not sure I buy that excuse today. If he's got the tools he would be deployed. Even Noel takes _some_ shots and he takes none.

If Thibs & Co. can't teach him, then he really can't shoot. I read he was shooting from a chair. The real problem is he probably isn't cleared to jump, and jump shots require, um, jumping.
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Post#1011 » by Deeeez Knicks » Fri Oct 1, 2021 7:37 pm

I still don't know why people think we could have gotten AD. AD would have cost us every decent player and pick and would have left a few months later for LA anyway
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Post#1012 » by JXL » Fri Oct 1, 2021 8:14 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:So, - and KnicksFanTV covered this, does anyone think Kemba and Rose will close some games together?
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With RJ at the 3 because defense? Or Fournier for creators/playmakers in the lineup: Rose/Kemba/Fournier/Randle?

Or just stick with Rose or Kemba with RJ and Fournier, which provides enough creation but balances it with some defense and height?
Could be matchup dependent, but if it's Thibs, I'm thinking it'll be RJ and Fournier out there with a PG.

Randle is a given. it's Mitch or Noel depending on foul trouble, game flow etc.
I believe it's whoever is hot at the point of the game. No doubt Thibs will put in the best lineup out there to close, but if I was to, the lineup would be Walker/Rose/Burks/Barrett/Randle. Barrett is underrated asa rebounder, and I think his defense will take another leap.
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Post#1013 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Fri Oct 1, 2021 8:37 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:I still don't know why people think we could have gotten AD. AD would have cost us every decent player and pick and would have left a few months later for LA anyway



yep.. It would have been pointless unless we could get someone else to join him. I guess Durant might have come without Kyrie if AD was here but I think the trade was Mitch and 8 to the Warriors to move up for LaMelo. Which I think was a real trade that was talked about before the draft. We could have had a long term solution at PG instead of our Rose/ Kemba stop gap and LaMelo is definitely someone with star potential. It also coulda definitely saved us from another season of Elfrid Payton too.
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Post#1014 » by robillionaire » Fri Oct 1, 2021 8:38 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:I still don't know why people think we could have gotten AD. AD would have cost us every decent player and pick and would have left a few months later for LA anyway


we were on his list

"[Davis] wanted to go to two places: New York or L.A," Paul reflects. "After the draft [lottery], I was able to see where everything lies. The fact that [the Pelicans] were going to get the first pick caused me to understand that it softened the blow of losing Anthony Davis because the organization could still have some momentum. "Now, where he would go was up to who was going to step up and give the best offer."

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27781645/how-busted-trade-request-got-anthony-davis-los-angeles

Davis' agent, Rich Paul, told ESPN's Dave McMenamin in October his client decided he wanted to play in New York or Los Angeles.

The Knicks ultimately missed out on Davis, though it's not clear if they ever seriously considered putting themselves into trade discussions with the New Orleans Pelicans.

Per ESPN's Brian Windhorst, Knicks president Steve Mills and general manager Scott Perry told people going after Davis "would have undercut their long-range plan of building through the draft and developing picks into stars."

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2867784-anthony-davis-confirms-knicks-made-final-cut-on-trade-list-before-lakers-deal
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Post#1015 » by robillionaire » Fri Oct 1, 2021 8:39 pm

that long range plan of building through the draft and developing picks into stars is going just great, thanks again pills
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Post#1016 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Oct 1, 2021 8:44 pm

Capn'O wrote:
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Capn'O wrote:Maybe Mitch bulked up to try to do battle with some of the bigger centers. He certainly struggled with that. But he almost certainly loses some of his uniqueness with that physique. Hope he didn't skip leg day. And lets it fly.


You’re going to die on that Mitch Shoot Threes hill aren’t you?


Mitch is gonna die on his own hill if he keeps chickening out. Even Noel shot considerably more from out of the paint. He just needs to do it or his spot in this league is gonna be a lot more limited than it could have been.


or else we trade him for Ben Simmons who has taken one more three point shot than Mitch
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Post#1017 » by robillionaire » Fri Oct 1, 2021 8:46 pm

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Capn'O wrote:
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You’re going to die on that Mitch Shoot Threes hill aren’t you?


Mitch is gonna die on his own hill if he keeps chickening out. Even Noel shot considerably more from out of the paint. He just needs to do it or his spot in this league is gonna be a lot more limited than it could have been.


or else we trade him for Ben Simmons who has taken one more three point shot than Mitch


for the record he banged it in Mitch's face

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Post#1018 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Oct 1, 2021 8:49 pm

robillionaire wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
Mitch is gonna die on his own hill if he keeps chickening out. Even Noel shot considerably more from out of the paint. He just needs to do it or his spot in this league is gonna be a lot more limited than it could have been.


or else we trade him for Ben Simmons who has taken one more three point shot than Mitch


for the record he banged it in Mitch's face



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Post#1019 » by Deeeez Knicks » Sat Oct 2, 2021 3:51 am

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:I still don't know why people think we could have gotten AD. AD would have cost us every decent player and pick and would have left a few months later for LA anyway


we were on his list

"[Davis] wanted to go to two places: New York or L.A," Paul reflects. "After the draft [lottery], I was able to see where everything lies. The fact that [the Pelicans] were going to get the first pick caused me to understand that it softened the blow of losing Anthony Davis because the organization could still have some momentum. "Now, where he would go was up to who was going to step up and give the best offer."

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27781645/how-busted-trade-request-got-anthony-davis-los-angeles

Davis' agent, Rich Paul, told ESPN's Dave McMenamin in October his client decided he wanted to play in New York or Los Angeles.

The Knicks ultimately missed out on Davis, though it's not clear if they ever seriously considered putting themselves into trade discussions with the New Orleans Pelicans.

Per ESPN's Brian Windhorst, Knicks president Steve Mills and general manager Scott Perry told people going after Davis "would have undercut their long-range plan of building through the draft and developing picks into stars."

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2867784-anthony-davis-confirms-knicks-made-final-cut-on-trade-list-before-lakers-deal


Just like Michael Jordan, Reggie Miller, Shaq, Lebron, Grant Hill, Durant, Kyrie and every other superstar were coming here. If only we offered Mitchell Robinson that would have blown away the Ingram, Ball, Hart, 2 picks offer. Why play with Lebron when you can play with (checks knicks roster) Frank and Knox. We really missed out on that one.
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Post#1020 » by robillionaire » Sat Oct 2, 2021 4:01 am

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:I still don't know why people think we could have gotten AD. AD would have cost us every decent player and pick and would have left a few months later for LA anyway


we were on his list

"[Davis] wanted to go to two places: New York or L.A," Paul reflects. "After the draft [lottery], I was able to see where everything lies. The fact that [the Pelicans] were going to get the first pick caused me to understand that it softened the blow of losing Anthony Davis because the organization could still have some momentum. "Now, where he would go was up to who was going to step up and give the best offer."

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27781645/how-busted-trade-request-got-anthony-davis-los-angeles

Davis' agent, Rich Paul, told ESPN's Dave McMenamin in October his client decided he wanted to play in New York or Los Angeles.

The Knicks ultimately missed out on Davis, though it's not clear if they ever seriously considered putting themselves into trade discussions with the New Orleans Pelicans.

Per ESPN's Brian Windhorst, Knicks president Steve Mills and general manager Scott Perry told people going after Davis "would have undercut their long-range plan of building through the draft and developing picks into stars."

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2867784-anthony-davis-confirms-knicks-made-final-cut-on-trade-list-before-lakers-deal


Just like Michael Jordan, Reggie Miller, Shaq, Lebron, Grant Hill, Durant, Kyrie and every other superstar were coming here. If only we offered Mitchell Robinson that would have blown away the Ingram, Ball, Hart, 2 picks offer. Why play with Lebron when you can play with (checks knicks roster) Frank and Knox. We really missed out on that one.


We had the 3rd pick which they could have used to pair RJ and Zion plus Mitch plus other guys and our picks and Dallas picks who all had slightly more value back then compared to now. Sure LA had a good offer but that’s besides the point, the fact is we were on his list of destinations signaling he would have signed an extension here. And also, when the rumors were circulating, people didn’t want to do it because they thought Mitch could be a star and AD was a losing player (not much different from today’s towns discussion)

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