Trades and Transactions, 2022 Edition

[HarthorneWingo]

Would love to get Zion because he's absolutely a generational type player but if he's not playing the games then he's a waste of space and money.

If he comes back in the second half and plays in 15-20 straight games and wants to leave NOLA, they’ll be interest.

[DowNY]

Posted this in the postgame thread of Knicks/Hornets.

Y’all think Colin Sexton would take a 1 year $10M MLE to start here ?
I don’t see the Cavs bringing him back or even making him RFA.

[newyorker4ever]

Posted this in the postgame thread of Knicks/Hornets.

Y’all think Colin Sexton would take a 1 year $10M MLE to start here ?
I don’t see the Cavs bringing him back or even making him RFA.

No

[spree2kawhi]

Posted this in the postgame thread of Knicks/Hornets.

Y’all think Colin Sexton would take a 1 year $10M MLE to start here ?
I don’t see the Cavs bringing him back or even making him RFA.

No

We should try to get him nevertheless. A scoring guard is a need.

[knicksNOTslick]

Would love to get Zion because he's absolutely a generational type player but if he's not playing the games then he's a waste of space and money.

You have to get Zion while he's still a risk to play or not. If you want to wait it out and see him healthy, his price tag goes way up. New Orleans is probably not trading him regardless and wants to wait it out just like they did with AD.

[spree2kawhi]

Brogdon
RJ
Cam
Randle
Wood

?

[snadler]

Brogdon
RJ
Cam
Randle
Wood

?

I really like Brogdon, but this team is nothing special

[spree2kawhi]

Brogdon
RJ
Cam
Randle
Wood

?

I really like Brogdon, but this team is nothing special

How does it get special then?

[winforlose]

There are different versions of this idea and rather than laying them all out the basic question is whether you guys would trade Randle for Siakam?

Another variation worth mentioning is we send out Malik Beasley, Taurean Prince, Naz Reid, Nathan Knight, our 2022 FRP top 10 protected and our 2024 FRP top 14 protected. You guys send us Randle, Toppin, and Sims. But, with this trade we could find another team to get involved, you don’t necessarily need any of what we are offering, that is just the value we are sending out. You could redirect it to a third team and get back what you can for it.

Important notes, Prince is a 13 mil expiring. Beasley has 2 years left roughly 15 mil each, but the final year is team option. So next year you would have a 15 mil expiring. Naz is quite cheap next year then becomes a RFA. Knight is a two way and could swap with Sims.

[Richard4444]

Posted this in the postgame thread of Knicks/Hornets.

Y’all think Colin Sexton would take a 1 year $10M MLE to start here ?
I don’t see the Cavs bringing him back or even making him RFA.

Cavs would be stupid to not make him RFA. His QO is only 8,5M and they can get assets in a sign and trade easily.

Furthermore, if he accepts a 10M MLE, he will be matched by the Cavs.

[Richard4444]

But your logic is flawed too. You say the Mavs should trade Brunson in the summer to get their 23 pick back, so that they can go shopping for a "star" with the 23 and 25 pick. So pretty much praying on luck that they even get someone better than Brunson in a trade. When they also just simply re-sign Brunson and start to shop him in november (combined with 21 FRP Green and the player selected in 22). If there is a star available, fine. If not also fine because they still have Brunson. And their future picks.

They also wont be afraid to pay Brunson. If they are scared of the lux tax: Powells final year is just 6m guaranteed. Klebers year is a team option, Bullocks MLE contract is moveable...and yes, even THJ with 3/53m isnt unmoveable.
So like i said, just no arguments for the Mavs to go the "trade Brunson to the Knicks" route. And i also just dont think Brunson would prefer to join the Knicks just to have a higher usage rate. He is always on the court in crunchtime and the main ballhandler beside Luka.

Again--I think you intentionally or unintentionally overread what I write.

I put emphasis on the fact that if Brunson is happy with his role and want to re-sign in Dallas, then it is likely gonna happen. However, if he does have doubts about that, then the Mavericks options are extremely limited. Brunson is a unrestricted FA looking probably for something in the 18mill. range. There will be likely a handful teams that could make the necessary moves to sign Brunson outright.

I'm personally not even sure whether the Knicks would even have to "deal" with Dallas. The salary cap for next season is projected to be at 119 million (just looked it up). The Knicks are projected at 120 mill. with multiple easily movable contracts (essentially 1 year contracts with team options that could likely be moved without having to attach any picks etc. to them). The Knicks would literally not have much of a problem creating 20 million in capspace. So it is not like they'd need even the Mavericks willingness to trade Brunson. If Brunson wanted to join the Knicks then the Knicks could get it done without involving the Mavericks at all. I think you operate under the wrong notion that the Knicks would be dependant on the Mavs' cooperation to get Brunson in the summer---they clearly are not.

Walker (1year/9mill.)
Noel (1year/9mill+ team option)
Burks (1year/10mill + team option)
Rose (1year/14mill. + team option)
Gibson (1year/5mill.)

Likely all 5 players are easily movable without having to attach any significant value to get rid of them. The Knicks would have to get rid of 2 of them (out of the rist 4) to create the necessary capspace. You think that's a difficult task?

Again---all this comes down to Brunson: If he wants to stay in Dallas he'll simply re-sign. If he wants a bigger role and can see himself in NY, then there is almost nothing the Mavericks could do to prevent that. In fact if Brunson would want to join NYK, I think it would be the Mavericks trying to engage the Knicks in a sign and trade, not vice versa.

As for Brunson--no one can really tell. He could just be happy being in Dallas and playing alongside Doncic competing for the playoffs etc. I personally do think that staying in Dallas, sharing a backcourt with Doncic and being the secondary ball-handler does limit some of his future possibilities. Brunson is 25, he'll likely sign a 4year extension now and a second one at roughly around the age of 29. Even just looking at it from a financial standpoint, I think taking the step as a primary ball-handler somewhere else, getting 8-9 assists along with 18 points will set him up better than what he could achieve next to Doncic. On the flip side, after following the NBA for close to 30 years I believe that there a many players that genuinely prefer to stay out of markets like NY or LA---to much spotlight, tough fans and a lot of criticism. I think many players are content being in slightly smaller market teams, more appreciated by the organization and fans etc. I actually think a big portion of NBA players thinks that way.

However this is all speculation, he may not even contemplate these things at all and just be happy where he is. We'll see come summer.

1) Maybe Dallas is not too interested in signing with Brunson because they are more serious holes in the roster. An inexperienced point guard making 15M+/y is not that important considering is Doncic job to handle the ball and make plays. Perhaps they are aiming to get another borderline experienced star who can score and defend wings/bigs. I don't know if there is a player with this skill set available on the market. But they might avoid investing so much money in Brunson waiting for this experienced player to show up.

2) We are the team that most need a point guard in the league. By being far to be a real contender, it can be wise to get a young PG who has many years ahead and can evolve.

3) We have a projected payroll of around 128M to next season (you have to add Mitch"s 3,5M Cap Hold and our 2022 pick around 3-5M).

4) I will be surprised if the Front Office gets rid of Rose, Burks, and Taj. They are Thibs favorites. Only if get a real bad end of the season, perhaps.

5) I don't think it would be so easy to get rid of the vets without getting any salary in return. There are very few teams with cap space to just absorb these deals and they are tanking teams, they will not want vets. It might be an expensive task, especially to get Kemba and Noel a new home.

[Dave DaButcher]

Per this, for Jerami Grant, Detroit is asking for 2 FRPs or 1 FRP plus one “high upside young player”. Also, Grant would be looking to sign an extension in the offseason in the 4 years at $112 mil range.

Your NYK are among the teams listed as having shown interest.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2952559-he-fits-everywhere-inside-the-market-for-nba-trade-deadlines-grand-prize

[WargamesX]

Per this, for Jerami Grant, Detroit is asking for 2 FRPs or 1 FRP plus one “high upside young player”. Also, Grant would be looking to sign an extension in the offseason in the 4 years at $112 mil range.

Your NYK are among the teams listed as having shown interest.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2952559-he-fits-everywhere-inside-the-market-for-nba-trade-deadlines-grand-prize

I wonder were we interested pre Cam Reddish Trade, or if the interest is still there.... In which case would we keep him or try to flip him to somebody else for something.

[JXL]

Jalen Brunson
Reggie Bullock

FOR

Kemba Walker
Solomon Hill
Give back DAL 2023 1st


Would this work?

[snadler]

Jalen Brunson
Reggie Bullock

FOR

Kemba Walker
Solomon Hill
Give back DAL 2023 1st


Would this work?

contractually it works, but I don't think the first round pick is worth Kemba's contract plus they will be able to get more for Brunson

[WargamesX]

Jalen Brunson
Reggie Bullock

FOR

Kemba Walker
Solomon Hill
Give back DAL 2023 1st


Would this work?

contractually it works, but I don't think the first round pick is worth Kemba's contract plus they will be able to get more for Brunson

This feels like a good deal over the summer but he is a UFA so it wouldn’t work. If he was a RFA definitely though.

[HopelessKnick]

Per this, for Jerami Grant, Detroit is asking for 2 FRPs or 1 FRP plus one “high upside young player”. Also, Grant would be looking to sign an extension in the offseason in the 4 years at $112 mil range.

Your NYK are among the teams listed as having shown interest.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2952559-he-fits-everywhere-inside-the-market-for-nba-trade-deadlines-grand-prize

I like Grant....but definitely not that much. I'd be surprised if any team offered two first round picks for a rotation player on a good team. They must be dreaming.

Also 112mill. is waayyy too much....4 years/80mill. sounds about right.....

[HopelessKnick]

I feel like the best realistic and possible outcome of this season is a late lottery pick. I think moving into the top 6 is completely out of the question and I don*t think we*ll surpass the Raptors or Charlotte (barring major injuries hitting them).

I'm usually not a big tank guy and it is essentially too late for that but I think this team is headed towards the 35 wins which may have us ending up with a pick in the 10-12 range. Not that bad. I think it is definitely a place in the draft where you could find someone nice or build a nice package around that pick.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Per this, for Jerami Grant, Detroit is asking for 2 FRPs or 1 FRP plus one “high upside young player”. Also, Grant would be looking to sign an extension in the offseason in the 4 years at $112 mil range.

Your NYK are among the teams listed as having shown interest.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2952559-he-fits-everywhere-inside-the-market-for-nba-trade-deadlines-grand-prize

I wonder were we interested pre Cam Reddish Trade, or if the interest is still there.... In which case would we keep him or try to flip him to somebody else for something.

Seeing how the Knicks are hardly mentioned in the article...I would think it was pre Reddish and they aren't part of the pack anymore. Wouldn't make any sense.

[newyorker4ever]

Would love to get Zion because he's absolutely a generational type player but if he's not playing the games then he's a waste of space and money.

You have to get Zion while he's still a risk to play or not. If you want to wait it out and see him healthy, his price tag goes way up. New Orleans is probably not trading him regardless and wants to wait it out just like they did with AD.

Zion's next contract will be huge even if he's still only playing half the games each year up until he's due for that contract. Whoever signs him will be paying for what he does when he is healthy.