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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5)- Discussion thread (Announcement on page 46) 

Post#1001 » by bishnykfan » Sat Dec 4, 2021 4:11 pm

Initial ratings have all been posted to your team pages. Please check to make sure that all players listed on your active roster are assigned to your team at this time. Next thing is for me to go over EL players. I will try and get that done by tonight and will be sending out PM's to any GMs who need to adjust their rosters accordingly due to an ineligible player currently on their EL. Obviously, like every year, there will be complaints with the ratings, especially defensively. But all in all, I still believe the sim gets a lot more right then wrong.


Top 5 per SCR

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PG

1. Curry SA
2. Irving Bro
2. Lillard Chi
4. Doncic Ind
4. Young NO

SG

1. Beal Sac
2. LaVine Cle
3. Mitchell LAL
4. Brown Por
5. Gilgeous-Alexander LAC

SF

1. Tatum Cle
2. Leonard Chi
3. DeRozan Orl
3. Ingram Cha
5. George LAC

PF

1. Antetokounmpo Dal
2. Durant Por
3. Williamson Ind
4. Randle Cle
5. Davis NO

C

1. Embiid GS
2. Jokic Dal
3. Towns Den
4. Wood Den
5. Vucevic NY




Top 5 per DEF

Spoiler:
PG

1. Simmons OKC
2. Curry SA
2. Mitchell Min
4. Payne NO
5. Graham Tor

SG

1. Carter-Williams Mil
1. Thybulle Cha
3. Burks Por
4. Gordon Dal
5. Temple Chi

SF

1. Hunter SA
2. Kuminga Det
3. Isaac Sac
4. Bridges Dal
4. Oubre GS

PF

1. Green Den
2. Antetokounmpo Dal
2. Durant Por
4. Gay Ind
5. Gibson Por

C

1. Claxton NO
1. Gobert LAC
3. Ayton Cle
4. Zubac Utah
5. Poeltl Hou
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5)- Discussion thread (Announcement on page 46) 

Post#1002 » by Smash3 » Sat Dec 4, 2021 4:16 pm

Ratings are pretty good with the exception of defensive ratings, but looks like defensive ratings are down across the boards so it even outs.
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5)- Discussion thread (Announcement on page 46) 

Post#1003 » by bishnykfan » Sat Dec 4, 2021 4:24 pm

Smash3 wrote:Ratings are pretty good with the exception of defensive ratings, but looks like defensive ratings are down across the boards so it even outs.



Defensive ratings are definitely down, especially for the perimeter players. Only nine PG/SG/SF received a DEF rating over an 80 while 17 PF/C received an 80+. I definitely think rating defense has always been a challenge for a game like this and there were definitely a few that jumped out as either way higher than I expected or much lower. But overall, I think it does do a decent job of raw ratings. And the best thing I can say about the sim is that through four seasons, we have yet to see an unworthy champion or runner up and at the end of the year, with almost no exceptions, all of the individual player stats line up with reality. If they can make the individual stats realistic while also getting the team performances accurate, then it works for me.
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5)- Discussion thread (Announcement on page 46) 

Post#1004 » by Capn'O » Sat Dec 4, 2021 4:24 pm

Smash3 wrote:Defensive ratings:

Jay - 74
Jrue - 72
Powell - 66


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I've got Luke Kornet (74) ranked higher than Paul George (72), DeAnthony Melton (71), Torrey Craig (64), current steals leader Gary Trent (63), Jarred Vanderbilt (73), and Mike Conley (72). These are all All-Defensive candidates.

And they realized that there's no way that Rudy Gobert should be ranked equally with Richaun Holmes... so they dropped Holmes half a star.


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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5)- Discussion thread (Announcement on page 46) 

Post#1005 » by Manhattan Project » Sat Dec 4, 2021 4:31 pm

Dinwiddie with a 1.5 star rating and potential, I am a disappoint. Gary Payton with that 100 inside rating, dunk city. Zubac looks like he'll be able to anchor my defense inside this year. Harden just seems like he's going to break my heart. Moral of the story, never trade with NewEra again.
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5)- Discussion thread (Announcement on page 46)- Opening night on Wednesday 

Post#1006 » by Fat » Sat Dec 4, 2021 5:10 pm

Trae young
Field goal jumper- 70
Field goal inside - 75

Last year

Field goal jumper - 86
Field goal inside - 76

Ain’t no way he fall from a 86 field goal jumper to a 70. Ntilkina shooting better than trae. Maybe traes high scoring rating makes up for it that seems like a huge drop though

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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5)- Discussion thread (Announcement on page 46)- Opening night on Wednesday 

Post#1007 » by DOT » Sat Dec 4, 2021 5:35 pm

Mobley 7th in bpg irl, 62 BLK in game

I don't get it.
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5)- Discussion thread (Announcement on page 46)- Opening night on Wednesday 

Post#1008 » by HEZI » Sat Dec 4, 2021 5:36 pm

Terry Rozier only a 67 scoring rating is criminal

He averaged 20 PPG last year there's no way he should be below 75 in scoring
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5)- Discussion thread (Announcement on page 46)- Opening night on Wednesday 

Post#1009 » by Manhattan Project » Sat Dec 4, 2021 6:02 pm

Well now that ratings are up, season is around the corner. I'll be back posting in here more often. Open for trades, ready to get back into the swing here.
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5)- Discussion thread (Announcement on page 46)- Opening night on Wednesday 

Post#1010 » by mpharris36 » Sat Dec 4, 2021 6:18 pm

Angryfatboy wrote:Trae young
Field goal jumper- 70
Field goal inside - 75

Last year

Field goal jumper - 86
Field goal inside - 76

Ain’t no way he fall from a 86 field goal jumper to a 70. Ntilkina shooting better than trae. Maybe traes high scoring rating makes up for it that seems like a huge drop though

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Curry got

65 FGI
81 FGJ

They did give him 84 DEF which makes up for it. But I have a hard time believing those stats will relate specifically to how they perform. Overall I faired pretty well I think.

Jalen Suggs has a higher FGJ then Curry :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5)- Discussion thread (Announcement on page 46)- Opening night on Wednesday 

Post#1011 » by DOT » Sat Dec 4, 2021 6:32 pm

mpharris36 wrote:Jalen Suggs has a higher FGJ then Curry :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post#1012 » by ribs » Sat Dec 4, 2021 6:50 pm

Manhattan Project wrote:Dinwiddie with a 1.5 star rating and potential, I am a disappoint. Gary Payton with that 100 inside rating, dunk city. Zubac looks like he'll be able to anchor my defense inside this year. Harden just seems like he's going to break my heart. Moral of the story, never trade with NewEra again.

As an IRL Warriors fan I can confirm that Gary Payton II deserves that 100 inside rating. He's a top 5 PF in the NBA. :lol:
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Post#1013 » by ribs » Sat Dec 4, 2021 6:53 pm

Patty Mills - 71 FGI / 82 FGJ / 65 DEF
George Hill - 81 FGI / 79 FGJ / 66 DEF
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Post#1014 » by Deeeez Knicks » Sat Dec 4, 2021 6:59 pm

Top 5 per DEF

SG

1. Carter-Williams Mil
1. Thybulle Cha
3. Burks Por
4. Gordon Dal

5. Temple Chi


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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5)- Discussion thread (Announcement on page 46) 

Post#1015 » by E-Balla » Sat Dec 4, 2021 8:54 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:How in the hell is TJ Warren 1.5 stars, that makes zero sense

**** up my whole team. Imma take it in stride though. This **** happens in real life where good players suddenly get bad and it derails a team. I'm still gunning for 40-45 wins (thinking I'll be closer to 35-37 with the team in it's current state).

Yo Bish, I was always wondering exactly how detailed can our lineup information be? I got a strategy I just thought of lol.
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5)- Discussion thread (Announcement on page 46)- Opening night on Wednesday 

Post#1016 » by Fat » Sat Dec 4, 2021 10:08 pm

If anyone needs a sniper Kennard is available. 88FGI/89FGJ

Kemba also available 3 star scorer
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Post#1017 » by NewEra » Sat Dec 4, 2021 10:44 pm

Manhattan Project wrote:Moral of the story, never trade with NewEra again….

Bro this is hilarious :lol: We’ve always had some of the best trade talks! Lemme go look at your roster right quick. I may or may not hit your pm tonight :wink:
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Post#1018 » by NewEra » Sat Dec 4, 2021 10:48 pm

Embiid with a 96 scoring rating for the first time ever in BAF. Y’all in trouble!
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Post#1019 » by NewEra » Sat Dec 4, 2021 10:53 pm


Top 5 per DEF

1. Hunter SA
2. Kuminga Det
3. Isaac Sac
4. Bridges Dal
4. Oubre GS

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Post#1020 » by HEZI » Sat Dec 4, 2021 11:10 pm

Top 5 per SCR

C

1. Embiid GS
2. Jokic Dal
3. Towns Den
4. Wood Den

5. Vucevic NY


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