Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread

[Signature NYK]

Can we sign and trade Precious to match salary in a deal or no?

[TrueWarrior]

1. Re-sign OG and Isaiah

2. Bring Rokas over

3. Let Alec and Precious go unless they re-sign for cheap and are okay only getting spot minutes. Alec redeemed himself in the playoffs, but it’s time to move on from him. Precious had some nice moments with us, but his lack of shooting/offense made him hard to play.

4. Draft, sign, or trade for a 3&D wing/forward and a big man who can shoot.

5. Put Julius, Deuce, Mitch, Bojan, & Jericho on the block. If no upgrades are available (Giannis, Mikal, Booker, Towns, Mitchell, etc) just run it back, but fill out the bench with actual playable players. Washed vets are better than G leaguers who Thibs will never play.

Jalen / Rokas
Donte / Deuce
OG / Josh
Julius / Bojan
Isaiah / Mitch

Even without any major moves, this is a very good team on paper. Losing yesterday doesn’t sting nearly as much with half our guys injured.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

1. Re-sign OG and Isaiah

2. Bring Rokas over

3. Let Alec and Precious go unless they re-sign for cheap and are okay only getting spot minutes. Alec redeemed himself in the playoffs, but it’s time to move on from him. Precious had some nice moments with us, but his lack of shooting/offense made him hard to play.

4. Draft, sign, or trade for a 3&D wing/forward and a big man who can shoot.

5. Put Julius, Deuce, Mitch, Bojan, & Jericho on the block. If no upgrades are available (Giannis, Mikal, Booker, Towns, Mitchell, etc) just run it back, but fill out the bench with actual playable players. Washed vets are better than G leaguers who Thibs will never play.

Jalen / Rokas
Donte / Deuce
OG / Josh
Julius / Bojan
Isaiah / Mitch

Even without any major moves, this is very good team on paper. Losing yesterday doesn’t sting nearly as much with half our team injured.

How about Reggie Bullock back for league minimum as end of bench?

[seren]

We are at 145 with Bojan and OG (assuming he opts on). We keep both and extend OG (opt in and extend), iHart gets something around 14-15 million per (similar to Mitchel), Burks at 5 mil, and then get two first round picks for a total of 5 mil. That brings us to 170 million. Not sure how you fit in Precious before getting into tax territory. Better to stay out of tax for one more season if possible

[Knicksfan1992]

We are at 145 with Bojan and OG (assuming he opts on). We keep both and extend OG (opt in and extend), iHart gets something around 14-15 million per (similar to Mitchel), Burks at 5 mil, and then get two first round picks for a total of 5 mil. That brings us to 170 million. Not sure how you fit in Precious before getting into tax territory. Better to stay out of tax for one more season if possible

Tax isn't the issue. That's just Dolan's money.

It's the 2nd apron that causes the restrictions. That's projected at 189 for next season after a quick google search. Using your calculations we should be more than fine on that front this season.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

We are at 145 with Bojan and OG (assuming he opts on). We keep both and extend OG (opt in and extend), iHart gets something around 14-15 million per (similar to Mitchel), Burks at 5 mil, and then get two first round picks for a total of 5 mil. That brings us to 170 million. Not sure how you fit in Precious before getting into tax territory. Better to stay out of tax for one more season if possible

Those first round picks are going to be traded. For future picks and/or some vet-min contract

[DaGawd]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10121757-giannis-trade-rumors-knicks-whole-nba-watching-bucks-star-ahead-of-free-agency?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0w4YL0S5pwvSpluAnawwnv9SJwD3gBCRG8sFhKMxghhw2EByD5k40olTM_aem_AT_e7aAAVwjSFOPt8ibH_uz2p5kflrtvst-WlOIUl2Pg1qBCmfdale0_aFUYQfR0Cj_VQr-v1SolukhmFC_IS1Kh

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[WargamesX]

I think the best chance the Knicks have to get a really good piece this summer is to be a facilitator for some other trade. Draft picks and Bojan are definitely pieces that could help a superstar trade happen if the Knicks want to take say the second or third best player back.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

We are at 145 with Bojan and OG (assuming he opts on). We keep both and extend OG (opt in and extend), iHart gets something around 14-15 million per (similar to Mitchel), Burks at 5 mil, and then get two first round picks for a total of 5 mil. That brings us to 170 million. Not sure how you fit in Precious before getting into tax territory. Better to stay out of tax for one more season if possible

Tax isn't the issue. That's just Dolan's money.

It's the 2nd apron that causes the restrictions. That's projected at 189 for next season after a quick google search. Using your calculations we should be more than fine on that front this season.

Agreed on the "That's just Dolan's money".

And even the Dolan hatorz don't think that he cares about the expenditure as far as the formal NBA bottom line goes. (He'd like to be the NBA-Yankees.) That's just not an issue for the NYK.

It's as KF92 says all about the CBA and how that has effects on who you can recruit/pay.

[newyorker4ever]

Randle is much better than Bridges.

Only inside the paint as a PF that can get rebounds and score but Mikal is better everywhere else. Better defender, by far obviously, and a better shooter, but we shouldn't be comparing the two who are both very different players that play different positions anyway.

I wouldn't want OG as our fulltime PF, i would want him at SF, playing some minutes at PF, with Mikal at SG and then we would just need to find a PF that could take 25 - 30 minutes a game there.

Um no. Randle is also a much better play maker, with a much better bag offensively. He can draw constant doubles and take pressure off Brunson, which Mikal cannot.

Bridges is an elite complimentary player. He is not an all nba talent like Randle.

Randle is not close to being my favorite player, but these takes are ridiculous.

Randle is also a horrible ball handler and for some reason thinks he's good at it and always losing the ball in games and at the worst times of games. What exactly is the definition of an all nba talent anyway?

[DaGawd]

Only inside the paint as a PF that can get rebounds and score but Mikal is better everywhere else. Better defender, by far obviously, and a better shooter, but we shouldn't be comparing the two who are both very different players that play different positions anyway.

I wouldn't want OG as our fulltime PF, i would want him at SF, playing some minutes at PF, with Mikal at SG and then we would just need to find a PF that could take 25 - 30 minutes a game there.

Um no. Randle is also a much better play maker, with a much better bag offensively. He can draw constant doubles and take pressure off Brunson, which Mikal cannot.

Bridges is an elite complimentary player. He is not an all nba talent like Randle.

Randle is not close to being my favorite player, but these takes are ridiculous.

Randle is also a horrible ball handler and for some reason thinks he's good at it and always losing the ball in games and at the worst times of games. What exactly is the definition of an all nba talent anyway?

you’re recognized as one of the very best performers in the league at your position. you’re without a doubt a very good nba player

[seren]

We are at 145 with Bojan and OG (assuming he opts on). We keep both and extend OG (opt in and extend), iHart gets something around 14-15 million per (similar to Mitchel), Burks at 5 mil, and then get two first round picks for a total of 5 mil. That brings us to 170 million. Not sure how you fit in Precious before getting into tax territory. Better to stay out of tax for one more season if possible

Those first round picks are going to be traded. For future picks and/or some vet-min contract

It would be a bad idea long term and short term. We desperately need cheap talent and nothing is as cheap as a rookie contract

[seren]

We are at 145 with Bojan and OG (assuming he opts on). We keep both and extend OG (opt in and extend), iHart gets something around 14-15 million per (similar to Mitchel), Burks at 5 mil, and then get two first round picks for a total of 5 mil. That brings us to 170 million. Not sure how you fit in Precious before getting into tax territory. Better to stay out of tax for one more season if possible

Tax isn't the issue. That's just Dolan's money.

It's the 2nd apron that causes the restrictions. That's projected at 189 for next season after a quick google search. Using your calculations we should be more than fine on that front this season.

Honestly I am not super familiar with the new rules. I recall something about repeater tax and how you can’t trade picks or you lose picks or something?

[Juco24]

Only inside the paint as a PF that can get rebounds and score but Mikal is better everywhere else. Better defender, by far obviously, and a better shooter, but we shouldn't be comparing the two who are both very different players that play different positions anyway.

I wouldn't want OG as our fulltime PF, i would want him at SF, playing some minutes at PF, with Mikal at SG and then we would just need to find a PF that could take 25 - 30 minutes a game there.

Um no. Randle is also a much better play maker, with a much better bag offensively. He can draw constant doubles and take pressure off Brunson, which Mikal cannot.

Bridges is an elite complimentary player. He is not an all nba talent like Randle.

Randle is not close to being my favorite player, but these takes are ridiculous.

Randle is also a horrible ball handler and for some reason thinks he's good at it and always losing the ball in games and at the worst times of games. What exactly is the definition of an all nba talent anyway?

Horrible ball handler???... What the hell?!! When he was playing those few games with OG, I remember him one game throwing a no look pass off the dribble. For a PF, Randle is a helluva ball handler. Turnover prone yes... horrible ball handler for a PF? Incorrect

[KnixtapeH20]

I don't think the wolves will go above the 2nd apron no matter what.
So...
Naz Reid/Kat to Knicks
Randle/Bojan/Jericho to Wolves
Precious and iHart not resigned

Naz/Mitch
Kat/Naz
OG/Hart
DD/Burks
Brunson/McBride

Why do the wolves make that trade?

[KnixtapeH20]

I don't see much conversation regarding Mikal which is why I made the thread.
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What do we think it would take to pry Mikal away from the nets?


What would we have to give up realistically?

I don't think book is a realistic option, Greek would be way too expensive, don't want embiitch

Doubt Kuzma could handle NY or be a Thibs guy


Mikal would be a great fit especially w the nova connection... so would the Nets ever be a trading partner with us?
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[Fat Kat]

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[Wildcat]

I don't think the wolves will go above the 2nd apron no matter what.
So...
Naz Reid/Kat to Knicks
Randle/Bojan/Jericho to Wolves
Precious and iHart not resigned

Naz/Mitch
Kat/Naz
OG/Hart
DD/Burks
Brunson/McBride

The deeper the T-Wolves go into the playoffs, the more likely they will keep the team as is because the extra generated revenue will make the luxury tax and 2nd apron more easier palatable. Their playoff success will be directly tied to how long they keep it together. And if they want to maximize their window, they'll probably stick with the main core for another 2 seasons. Also, salary cap is expected to jump to $155 next season and $170 the following (roughly).

Also, absolutely no reason for them to trade Reid and KAT.

[Wildcat]

Read on Twitter

Bill Simmons just reading RealGM posts.

[Wildcat]

I don't see much conversation regarding Mikal which is why I made the thread.
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What do we think it would take to pry Mikal away from the nets?

What would we have to give up realistically?

I don't think book is a realistic option, Greek would be way too expensive, don't want embiitch

Doubt Kuzma could handle NY or be a Thibs guy

Mikal would be a great fit especially w the nova connection... so would the Nets ever be a trading partner with us?
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Where does he fit on this team? Donte is our 2-guard. OG is our SF. Randle is our PF. Does he have a role off the bench? Will he accept a role off the bench? Mikal had a let down season. My understanding was he was depressed or something akin to it. I'm afraid the Mikal boat has sailed.