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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1001 » by KnixinSix » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:34 pm

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Realistically, if he can maintain the level he was at last year, adding him to this roster whether buyout or trade (KAT), would guarantee us a spot in the finals.

But, the window is next year if he's traded to us, that's it, next year would have to be the title shot, all in and knowing there's nothing after.If he's bought out, we'd be the favorites next year and can maintain without him when he retires.


He would probably go back home and take that shot to go out with glory for his home team who he left twice for greener pastures. Gets to end on a high note for them.

Lakers better not buy him out!




He already got them a title, the most LeBron narrative imaginable is to help NYC get the first title in 50 years. It puts a stamp on his career that winning another in Cleveland wouldn't do.



That's the narrative that makes the most sense.

He already won with:
Miami Heat (2012, 2013), the Cleveland Cavaliers (2016), and the Los Angeles Lakers (2020)

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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1002 » by Knicksfan1992 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:34 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Knicksfan1992 wrote: The idea would be that they want Mikal...
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Just imagine for a second that we have a 23 year old, 6'10" two way wing that can play make.


Now, imagine a team comes to you and offers you Tobias Harris + Duren for that player.



That is what you're talking about with Franz, the same can be applied to Trey and Bam. It's not shot term memories, it's understanding value proposition. We don't have 5 picks to throw into the trades this time, nobody is giving up Franz, Trey or Bam for Mikal. You can add in Mitch, they aren't doing it, because you wouldn't if we had the player that you're proposing the trade for.


Lol absolutely insane to compare Mikal to Tobias Harris...

You're also overrating Franz a ton here while you go on a crusade about Hart being a non shooter... Meanwhile Franz legit can't shoot :lol:

Again I don't even want to trade for these guys. Just saying they are guys in the salary range that I could see the Knicks having interest in.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1003 » by Juco24 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:34 pm

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ctorres wrote:
SARGO127 wrote:Knicks checking in on Ben Simmons? Eh


Yup!!! If we surround him with 4 shooters off the bench, im about it!

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I've been dropping this on RealGM... Ben Simmons might be a good guy off the bench. Is he the focal point of the offense anymore? No.

What can he do?
Primary ballhandler
Can guard 1-4 and has strength to guard small ball 5s. Elite level too if his back doesn't act up.
Good rebound and just like Josh Hart, they will just run in the open court.


Agreed.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1004 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:39 pm

Juco24 wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:
ctorres wrote:
Yup!!! If we surround him with 4 shooters off the bench, im about it!

Read on Twitter


I've been dropping this on RealGM... Ben Simmons might be a good guy off the bench. Is he the focal point of the offense anymore? No.

What can he do?
Primary ballhandler
Can guard 1-4 and has strength to guard small ball 5s. Elite level too if his back doesn't act up.
Good rebound and just like Josh Hart, they will just run in the open court.


Agreed.

How can the Knicks currently afford him?
Were they looking into him if Yabu didn’t sign?
I’d love Ben here on a cheap deal but not sure it’s possible
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1005 » by KnixinSix » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:41 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Juco24 wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:
I've been dropping this on RealGM... Ben Simmons might be a good guy off the bench. Is he the focal point of the offense anymore? No.

What can he do?
Primary ballhandler
Can guard 1-4 and has strength to guard small ball 5s. Elite level too if his back doesn't act up.
Good rebound and just like Josh Hart, they will just run in the open court.


Agreed.

How can the Knicks currently afford him?
Were they looking into him if Yabu didn’t sign?
I’d love Ben here on a cheap deal but not sure it’s possible


IF we were to do something like 58M (Bridges,Hart,Mitch) for 52.6M (LeBron) in a trade we add cap space under the 2nd apron. If we pulled off LeBron Simmons probably would want to come on board. I don't know if they add Bronny to the package to though.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1006 » by Polk377 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:41 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Juco24 wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:
I've been dropping this on RealGM... Ben Simmons might be a good guy off the bench. Is he the focal point of the offense anymore? No.

What can he do?
Primary ballhandler
Can guard 1-4 and has strength to guard small ball 5s. Elite level too if his back doesn't act up.
Good rebound and just like Josh Hart, they will just run in the open court.


Agreed.

How can the Knicks currently afford him?
Were they looking into him if Yabu didn’t sign?
I’d love Ben here on a cheap deal but not sure it’s possible

I smell a trade in the works to shed some salary...
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1007 » by ctorres » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:44 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Juco24 wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:
I've been dropping this on RealGM... Ben Simmons might be a good guy off the bench. Is he the focal point of the offense anymore? No.

What can he do?
Primary ballhandler
Can guard 1-4 and has strength to guard small ball 5s. Elite level too if his back doesn't act up.
Good rebound and just like Josh Hart, they will just run in the open court.


Agreed.

How can the Knicks currently afford him?
Were they looking into him if Yabu didn’t sign?
I’d love Ben here on a cheap deal but not sure it’s possible


Not even the minimum?
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1008 » by WargamesX » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:45 pm

Polk377 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Juco24 wrote:
Agreed.

How can the Knicks currently afford him?
Were they looking into him if Yabu didn’t sign?
I’d love Ben here on a cheap deal but not sure it’s possible

I smell a trade in the works to shed some salary...


So there isn't any chance he would come as a Minimum level player?
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1009 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:47 pm

ctorres wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Juco24 wrote:
Agreed.

How can the Knicks currently afford him?
Were they looking into him if Yabu didn’t sign?
I’d love Ben here on a cheap deal but not sure it’s possible


Not even the minimum?

I thought they could only pay McCullars and a 2nd round rookie at this point.

I is there still a vet minimum cap hold to put Simmons into?
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1010 » by Polk377 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:48 pm

WargamesX wrote:
Polk377 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:How can the Knicks currently afford him?
Were they looking into him if Yabu didn’t sign?
I’d love Ben here on a cheap deal but not sure it’s possible

I smell a trade in the works to shed some salary...


So there isn't any chance he would come as a Minimum level player?

The Knicks are hard capped now after using the tax payer mid level on Yabu. They can only afford to sign a 1 year experience vet min (McCullar) and use the 2nd round pick exemption (Diawara). There would 100% have to be a trade for it to work.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1011 » by WargamesX » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:51 pm

Polk377 wrote:
WargamesX wrote:
Polk377 wrote:I smell a trade in the works to shed some salary...


So there isn't any chance he would come as a Minimum level player?

The Knicks are hard capped now after using the tax payer mid level on Yabu. They can only afford to sign a 1 year experience vet min (McCullar) and use the 2nd round pick exemption (Diawara). There would 100% have to be a trade for it to work.


Did they officially sign Yabu or is this an order of operations situation where they can officially sign people in a certain order that is still counts. Also how many people are on the roster? You can always go over the "hard cap" to meet the player minimum on the roster.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1012 » by ctorres » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:51 pm

Polk377 wrote:
WargamesX wrote:
Polk377 wrote:I smell a trade in the works to shed some salary...


So there isn't any chance he would come as a Minimum level player?

The Knicks are hard capped now after using the tax payer mid level on Yabu. They can only afford to sign a 1 year experience vet min (McCullar) and use the 2nd round pick exemption (Diawara). There would 100% have to be a trade for it to work.


We would have to trade Dadiet, Kolek, or Hukporti if we really wanted Simmons.

Dadiet has shown the least among them and has the largest contract, but we probably want to keep him now cause he is close with Diawara and probably cool with Yabusele
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1013 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:51 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
ctorres wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:How can the Knicks currently afford him?
Were they looking into him if Yabu didn’t sign?
I’d love Ben here on a cheap deal but not sure it’s possible


Not even the minimum?

I thought they could only pay McCullars and a 2nd round rookie at this point.

I is there still a vet minimum cap hold to put Simmons into?


If they don't give Yabusele the full TPMLE they can squeeze enough under the apron for a full vet mini and a rookie mini. If not it's McC/rook(Diawara?) Currently need to shave like 50k off Yabu to do so. Not impossible.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1014 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:53 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
ctorres wrote:
Not even the minimum?

I thought they could only pay McCullars and a 2nd round rookie at this point.

I is there still a vet minimum cap hold to put Simmons into?


If they don't give Yabusele the full TPMLE they can squeeze enough under the apron for a full vet mini and a rookie mini. If not it's McC/rook(Diawara?) Currently need to shave like 50k off Yabu to do so. Not impossible.

Sounds like an Aller move
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1015 » by Polk377 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:54 pm

WargamesX wrote:
Polk377 wrote:
WargamesX wrote:
So there isn't any chance he would come as a Minimum level player?

The Knicks are hard capped now after using the tax payer mid level on Yabu. They can only afford to sign a 1 year experience vet min (McCullar) and use the 2nd round pick exemption (Diawara). There would 100% have to be a trade for it to work.


Did they officially sign Yabu or is this an order of operations situation where they can officially sign people in a certain order that is still counts. Also how many people are on the roster? You can always go over the "hard cap" to meet the player minimum on the roster.

Roster minimum is 12 and max is 15 plus 3 2 way deals.

If they go over before signing Yabu, they would lose the tax payer mid level and if they sign Yabu using the TPML, they can no longer go over the 2nd apron to sign players.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1016 » by KnixinSix » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:54 pm

Polk377 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Juco24 wrote:
Agreed.

How can the Knicks currently afford him?
Were they looking into him if Yabu didn’t sign?
I’d love Ben here on a cheap deal but not sure it’s possible

I smell a trade in the works to shed some salary...


Quite posssssssible....announced on July 4th?
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1017 » by Polk377 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:55 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
Polk377 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:How can the Knicks currently afford him?
Were they looking into him if Yabu didn’t sign?
I’d love Ben here on a cheap deal but not sure it’s possible

I smell a trade in the works to shed some salary...


Quite posssssssible....announced on July 4th?

Who knows?
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1018 » by ctorres » Wed Jul 2, 2025 6:01 pm

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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1019 » by Juco24 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 6:11 pm

ctorres wrote:
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While hilarious... I'm afraid there's some truth there. LMAO
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1020 » by KnixinSix » Wed Jul 2, 2025 6:12 pm

Juco24 wrote:
ctorres wrote:
Read on Twitter


While hilarious... I'm afraid there's some truth there. LMAO


Don't worry Hart probably on the trade block lol

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