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Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II
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SARGO127 wrote:If we want 3 + lotto pick this year + brown why don't we call the kings and see if we can get 5 + 10 + Richardson or Skal and dump Noah on them?
I'd want WCS in that deal too.
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It’s like when lil bitches make subliminal records, if it ain’t directed directly at me, I don’t respect it
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GONYK wrote:frogfood wrote:GONYK wrote:
Being a company man?![]()
You're speaking from nothing from emotion with literally nothing to back it up.
Do you think the relationship between KP and Phil has improved since 2 days ago? Players do not like their names publicly put out there in trade talks by their own GM, case in point, Melo.
Do you think Phil's stooge, Rosen putting out that stupid hitpiece was a good idea? Or equally innocuous like EVERYTHING else I'm assuming
The relationship will improve when KP picks up the phone.
Why should we care what players like when they are actively refusing to work the organization? I don't understand this need to kowtow to someone on a rookie contract with 2 more years on it.
The Rosen article is getting more attention because of the relationship between him and Phil. That's fair. I don't think it matters in the big scheme of things when Phil is asking the moon and stars for KP in trades, and will probably end up keeping him.
If KP stays, which I think he does, you will see KP and Phil together and all this crap won't mean a thing. I love that someone mentioned KP can stay in Latvia...the craziness has gone to the next level around here.
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Yes becuase Okafor and Russell are just as good as KP great comparison random knick dude.
Is Towns being shopped? How about Gannis ?? Are they being shopped?
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duetta wrote:GONYK wrote:What does any of that have to do with this situation?
KP is being shopped because he has concluded that our franchise is highly dysfunctional. It is. It has been for years. Phil is absolutely a part of that dysfunction.
I don't agree with KP blowing off the exit interview, or not returning Jeff's call. But it's taken us so long to acquire a player who could impact the game on both ends of the court.
Phil needed to handle the Anthony situation behind the scenes. He needed to stop leaking his displeasure through Rosen. He's only made the situation worse - and, as you well remember, I am the original Anthony hater.
Phil has actually made Anthony into a sympathetic figure for me.
KP is also part of that dysfunction. That can't be ignored. He made his stand, Phil is responding. What other response is there when the player blows off a meeting, doesn't answer your call, doesn't answer the coach's call and then sends his brother when you thought you were meeting with him?
Honestly asking. At what point does it make sense to see what you can get for him?
Could Phil have handled Anthony better? Absolutely. But I'm referring to the quotes he gave in articles. I don't have any issue with Phil saying that if Melo wants to win, he should seek a trade, since we will be rebuilding.
That is a fair statement to me.
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one of those guys was actually traded. the other it's well known they would like to trade. so what does that tell you ?
p.s. the other 2 are disappointments
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shtolky wrote:frogfood wrote:shtolky wrote:
Phil is asking for so much because, as he said, we value KP and we love KP, but we have to do what's best for the club. It could not be less complicated than that. You think because the media is having a field day that it means something to our need to improve the team? F the media, F twitter, who cares. Shouldn't he WANT to win the trade and get as much as possible? How is this a negative?
You see how this is backfiring right? No trade will be made, in all likelihood, and now KP hates you even more. You'd THINK Phil learned his lesson from his dealings with Melo this past.
And sure F the media and twitter but that does affect prospective free agents' perceptions.
You know a trade won't be made? You got the powerball numbers also?
Speculating on KP "hating" Phil when he probably doesn't hate anyone.
Go back and actually read what Phil said about Melo. Read his words carefully. He was bordering on graciousness when it came to Melo. When did Melo, one of the most selfish players of the past 15 years, become a martyr?
I am glad Phil is doing due diligence to improve the team. Nobody should be untouchable.
Why do we need to sign free agents so badly right now? Are players lining up to go to any of the teams in the lottery other than the Celtics? You know, people have been saying since Dolan was hired we've been a joke and yet every year we have cap space we manage to spend it.
The hyperbole is a bit much.
Facts!
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Phil is trolling his haters, the slimy press, the insubordinate baby unicorn and Danny Ainge all at the same time. I love it!
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RE the Lauri stuff
I think he can be a potent offensive weapon in the right system.
But if that deal happened where we'd have 3,7,8, we should round out the perimeter for once. There are so many good backcourt players in the lottery. Take advantage of it and potentially have your PG / SG / SF of the future.
I'm against trading KP, but at least recognize the overwhelming amount of big men that are available through other conduits.
Jackson Frank Monk
Jackson DSJ Frank
Jackson DSJ Monk
Jackson DSJ Mitchell
Jackson Frank Mitchell
That should be the combos (assuming it's Jackson they want and LAL doesn't do something crazy).
I think he can be a potent offensive weapon in the right system.
But if that deal happened where we'd have 3,7,8, we should round out the perimeter for once. There are so many good backcourt players in the lottery. Take advantage of it and potentially have your PG / SG / SF of the future.
I'm against trading KP, but at least recognize the overwhelming amount of big men that are available through other conduits.
Jackson Frank Monk
Jackson DSJ Frank
Jackson DSJ Monk
Jackson DSJ Mitchell
Jackson Frank Mitchell
That should be the combos (assuming it's Jackson they want and LAL doesn't do something crazy).
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
#FreeJimmit
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Yes becuase Okafor and Russell are just as good as KP great comparison random knick dude.
Is Towns being shopped? How about Gannis ?? Are they being shopped?
KP is not being shopped...if the Pelicans call Minny and offer Davis and a pick for Towns, is he being shopped because they picked up the phone?
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GONYK wrote:
Honestly asking. At what point does it make sense to see what you can get for him?
Could Phil have handled Anthony better? Absolutely. But I'm referring to the quotes he gave in articles. I don't have any issue with Phil saying that if Melo wants to win, he should seek a trade, since we will be rebuilding.
That is a fair statement to me.
Yes, maybe in a vacuum but in reality, Melo didn't take it well at ALL. Come on.
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one of those guys was actually traded. the other it's well known they would like to trade. so what does that tell you ?
p.s. the other 2 are disappointments
If Thibadeau took calls on Karl Towns, would you say "FIRE HIM NOW" or would you say "see what you can get"?
Give me your honest answer.
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Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:
d.a says it's not just due diligence. they're aggressive in trying to find a deal. another hack i assume. they're everywhere nowadays.
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Surely you guys won't trade him. Surely Dolan would step in and end this nonsense?
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Sark wrote:god shammgod wrote:
one of those guys was actually traded. the other it's well known they would like to trade. so what does that tell you ?
p.s. the other 2 are disappointments
If Thibadeau took calls on Karl Towns, would you say "FIRE HIM NOW" or would you say "see what you can get"?
Give me your honest answer.
have you heard they're taking calls on towns ? why do you think that is ?
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Sark wrote:god shammgod wrote:
one of those guys was actually traded. the other it's well known they would like to trade. so what does that tell you ?
p.s. the other 2 are disappointments
If Thibadeau took calls on Karl Towns, would you say "FIRE HIM NOW" or would you say "see what you can get"?
Give me your honest answer.
Dude...that hasn't happened. And guess why?
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reload141 wrote:Surely you guys won't trade him. Surely Dolan would step in and end this nonsense?
Dolan has a gig tonight. Pretty sure he's at sound check.