Official Melo Trade Thread: WOJ BOMB UPDATE PG 21: Will Waive NTC for HOU and CLE

FreeSpiritNY · Post #1021 » by **FreeSpiritNY** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 10:49 pm

Lol this is a news piece that won't come to furitation. Put it this way when something is said out of espn is usallly doesn't happen. So now it's verified Melo isn't being traded. He also looks slow as hell.

dreamer3kx · Post #1022 » by **dreamer3kx** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 10:54 pm

If Melo isnt traded he needs to plays with a huge chip on shoulder, every game with a mean mug.

HEZI · Post #1023 » by **HEZI** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 10:58 pm

New Melo workout video just released

Spoiler:

Billy Goat · Post #1024 » by **Billy Goat** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 11:03 pm

JoeypopsNY wrote:Lol this is a news piece that won't come to furitation. Put it this way when something is said out of espn is usallly doesn't happen. So now it's verified Melo isn't being traded. He also looks slow as hell.

Hard to trade a guy who doesn't want to leave

3eePointGoal · Post #1025 » by **3eePointGoal** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 11:06 pm

Greenie wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:
Greenie wrote:I ain't really feeling it...

Like chocolate

As long as we don't take back ridiculous deals, I honestly don't care. but when they come up short if this happens, you know who is gonna get blamed for it.

This is why I said I like what Mills is doing. We want to move him, but we are not here for the shenanigans of taking back garbage. Dude has a year left. It's not that serious for us. These other teams trying to win need to understand that.

I agree with you. No need to trade for trash, for that just let him play out his contract. Don't take back trash just to get rid of melo. I just feel that both sides are done with one another. Hopefully we end up winning this game of chicken.

Rotten Apple · Post #1026 » by **Rotten Apple** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 11:13 pm

Reign23 wrote:and I think he looks good in the video. he gonna lit it up next season.

Yeah he's working on all the right things. Last year he was too focused on half court stuff.

A lot of quick moves, quick shots. Good pace and rhythm to the workouts.

Billy Goat · Post #1027 » by **Billy Goat** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 11:15 pm

3eePointGoal wrote:
Greenie wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:As long as we don't take back ridiculous deals, I honestly don't care. but when they come up short if this happens, you know who is gonna get blamed for it.

This is why I said I like what Mills is doing. We want to move him, but we are not here for the shenanigans of taking back garbage. Dude has a year left. It's not that serious for us. These other teams trying to win need to understand that.

I agree with you. No need to trade for trash, for that just let him play out his contract. Don't take back trash just to get rid of melo. I just feel that both sides are done with one another. Hopefully we end up winning this game of chicken.

Basically as Knicks fans we have to accept we're going to allow Melo to chuck away on a 30 win team for the next two years.

3eePointGoal · Post #1028 » by **3eePointGoal** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 11:16 pm

SelbyCobra wrote:The generic workout videos on Instagram are just as stupid and transparent when KP is posting them. They're a joke to me and don't speak well to a player's mindset and/or mental fortitude.

Nobody needs to know anything about your work if you're confident that you're going to be putting your best foot forward when the season starts. Sharing that kind of stuff screams both insecurity and softness to me. Especially when it's so obviously crafted and produced like it was in KP's case - his social media stuff is just as cringeworthy as Melo's to me at this point, maybe even worse.

And to be clear, I'm talking specifically about GENERIC workout videos. If a guy is working out with a legend, practicing a new move, or doing something quirky/weird, then I can understand the impulse to share that. But cardio work? Getting shots up in the gym? Lifting weights? Congratulations, you're doing the job you're being paid to do...and you still feel the need to prove it. Weak.

I've always thought the same thing.
If you're focused you wouldn't be worried about people watching you do, what you're supposed to be doing as a pro. I think it's a generational thing. We live in the Me, I, self centered generation.

3eePointGoal · Post #1029 » by **3eePointGoal** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 11:24 pm

Billy Goat wrote:
3eePointGoal wrote:
Greenie wrote:

This is why I said I like what Mills is doing. We want to move him, but we are not here for the shenanigans of taking back garbage. Dude has a year left. It's not that serious for us. These other teams trying to win need to understand that.

I agree with you. No need to trade for trash, for that just let him play out his contract. Don't take back trash just to get rid of melo. I just feel that both sides are done with one another. Hopefully we end up winning this game of chicken.

Basically as Knicks fans we have to accept we're going to allow Melo to chuck away on a 30 win team for the next two years.

Not really. All I'm saying is, why make a move for the sake of making a move.
I know some people look at it as one step backwards two step forwards in getting rid of melo at this time(or some just two steps forward).. That being said, if melo is traded away for trash just to get rid of him it might put us in a worst situation. Especially if we take on long ass contracts and **** ass picks. His contract is short, and not horrible in my opinion, considering the deals being given away. If I'm going to trade him I need some sort of decent picks back without taking on too much salary.
Just want this whole ordeal done one way or another, because it seems until this is resolved we'll have no direction.

FreeSpiritNY · Post #1030 » by **FreeSpiritNY** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 11:27 pm

Melo= all about ME LOoser

FreeSpiritNY · Post #1031 » by **FreeSpiritNY** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 11:29 pm

3eePointGoal wrote:
Billy Goat wrote:
3eePointGoal wrote:I agree with you. No need to trade for trash, for that just let him play out his contract. Don't take back trash just to get rid of melo. I just feel that both sides are done with one another. Hopefully we end up winning this game of chicken.

Basically as Knicks fans we have to accept we're going to allow Melo to chuck away on a 30 win team for the next two years.

Not really. All I'm saying is, why make a move for the sake of making a move.
I know some people look at it as one step backwards two step forwards in getting rid of melo at this time(or some just two steps forward).. That being said, if melo is traded away for trash just to get rid of him it might put us in a worst situation. Especially if we take on long ass contracts and **** ass picks. His contract is short, and not horrible in my opinion, considering the deals being given away. If I'm going to trade him I need some sort of decent picks back without taking on too much salary.
Just want this whole ordeal done one way or another, because it seems until this is resolved we'll have no direction.

Because it's give the fo a year to see if kp has it into him to lead the team and if not trade him to acquire a ton of picks next year and start full over.

VirginiaKnickFan · Post #1032 » by **VirginiaKnickFan** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 11:36 pm

Billy Goat wrote:
3eePointGoal wrote:
Greenie wrote:

This is why I said I like what Mills is doing. We want to move him, but we are not here for the shenanigans of taking back garbage. Dude has a year left. It's not that serious for us. These other teams trying to win need to understand that.

I agree with you. No need to trade for trash, for that just let him play out his contract. Don't take back trash just to get rid of melo. I just feel that both sides are done with one another. Hopefully we end up winning this game of chicken.

Basically as Knicks fans we have to accept we're going to allow Melo to chuck away on a 30 win team for the next two years.

If that's the case, it's far better than trading him to Houston and taking back someone like Anderson.

3eePointGoal · Post #1033 » by **3eePointGoal** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 11:36 pm

JoeypopsNY wrote:
3eePointGoal wrote:
Billy Goat wrote:
Basically as Knicks fans we have to accept we're going to allow Melo to chuck away on a 30 win team for the next two years.

Not really. All I'm saying is, why make a move for the sake of making a move.
I know some people look at it as one step backwards two step forwards in getting rid of melo at this time(or some just two steps forward).. That being said, if melo is traded away for trash just to get rid of him it might put us in a worst situation. Especially if we take on long ass contracts and **** ass picks. His contract is short, and not horrible in my opinion, considering the deals being given away. If I'm going to trade him I need some sort of decent picks back without taking on too much salary.
Just want this whole ordeal done one way or another, because it seems until this is resolved we'll have no direction.

Because it's give the fo a year to see if kp has it into him to lead the team and if not trade him to acquire a ton of picks next year and start full over.

I agree with u in that the fo wants to see if KP is franchise material, which I do. I believe we can build around KP, and that in order for that to happen then melo needs to go. Just that I don't want to trade melo for a player under a longer contract even if it includes picks(which will probably be mediocre picks. Now if you trade Melo and either shed salary while taking back multiple picks then I'm game. Im in the camp of melo needs to move on from Knicks. I like him, I believe he wanted to win here... Just didn't workout that way. so let's both move on and see our Latvian Nephilim prove he's franchise player material.

wpetinaudjr · Post #1034 » by **wpetinaudjr** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 11:37 pm

3eePointGoal wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:The generic workout videos on Instagram are just as stupid and transparent when KP is posting them. They're a joke to me and don't speak well to a player's mindset and/or mental fortitude.

Nobody needs to know anything about your work if you're confident that you're going to be putting your best foot forward when the season starts. Sharing that kind of stuff screams both insecurity and softness to me. Especially when it's so obviously crafted and produced like it was in KP's case - his social media stuff is just as cringeworthy as Melo's to me at this point, maybe even worse.

And to be clear, I'm talking specifically about GENERIC workout videos. If a guy is working out with a legend, practicing a new move, or doing something quirky/weird, then I can understand the impulse to share that. But cardio work? Getting shots up in the gym? Lifting weights? Congratulations, you're doing the job you're being paid to do...and you still feel the need to prove it. Weak.

I've always thought the same thing.
If you're focused you wouldn't be worried about people watching you do, what you're supposed to be doing as a pro. I think it's a generational thing. We live in the Me, I, self centered generation.

Perhaps the videos are just a general statement suggesting to the powers that be that "while you people slander me in the the press, I'm in the gym working and getting ready." I respect the workout videos way more than the "executives" making negative jesters ot statements in the press about the players. The statements to the press are completely self defeating from all pespectives, and I just do not understand it.

W

Post #1035 » by **Jeff Van Gully** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 11:38 pm

Greenie wrote:
Jeff Van Gully wrote:gaines said FOH to the rumor. literally.

http://nypost.com/2017/07/03/knicks-exec-on-if-he-laughed-at-carmelo-get-the-f-k-out-of-here/

That's my President.

gaines?

god shammgod · Post #1036 » by **god shammgod** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 11:41 pm

koq didn't want to be left out

3eePointGoal · Post #1037 » by **3eePointGoal** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 11:44 pm

wpetinaudjr wrote:
3eePointGoal wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:The generic workout videos on Instagram are just as stupid and transparent when KP is posting them. They're a joke to me and don't speak well to a player's mindset and/or mental fortitude.

Nobody needs to know anything about your work if you're confident that you're going to be putting your best foot forward when the season starts. Sharing that kind of stuff screams both insecurity and softness to me. Especially when it's so obviously crafted and produced like it was in KP's case - his social media stuff is just as cringeworthy as Melo's to me at this point, maybe even worse.

And to be clear, I'm talking specifically about GENERIC workout videos. If a guy is working out with a legend, practicing a new move, or doing something quirky/weird, then I can understand the impulse to share that. But cardio work? Getting shots up in the gym? Lifting weights? Congratulations, you're doing the job you're being paid to do...and you still feel the need to prove it. Weak.

I've always thought the same thing.
If you're focused you wouldn't be worried about people watching you do, what you're supposed to be doing as a pro. I think it's a generational thing. We live in the Me, I, self centered generation.

Perhaps the videos are just a general statement suggesting to the powers that be that "while you people slander me in the the press, I'm in the gym working and getting ready." I respect the workout videos way more than the "executives" making negative jesters ot statements in the press about the players. The statements to the press are completely self defeating from all pespectives, and I just do not understand it.

W

If that's the case with melo.... He should've been doing this a while back. This guy has caught so much flack for so long. It's like people want to hate the guy for no real reason. Ok, I get it u don't like his style of play. But man is the hate strong for this individual. By all means he seems like a good dude. I am curious to know what they were actually laughing at. Only they know and they won't tell lol. Gaines did say gtfoh. Ahahaha.

Billy Goat · Post #1038 » by **Billy Goat** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 11:50 pm

3eePointGoal wrote:
Billy Goat wrote:
3eePointGoal wrote:I agree with you. No need to trade for trash, for that just let him play out his contract. Don't take back trash just to get rid of melo. I just feel that both sides are done with one another. Hopefully we end up winning this game of chicken.

Basically as Knicks fans we have to accept we're going to allow Melo to chuck away on a 30 win team for the next two years.

Not really. All I'm saying is, why make a move for the sake of making a move.
I know some people look at it as one step backwards two step forwards in getting rid of melo at this time(or some just two steps forward).. That being said, if melo is traded away for trash just to get rid of him it might put us in a worst situation. Especially if we take on long ass contracts and **** ass picks. His contract is short, and not horrible in my opinion, considering the deals being given away. If I'm going to trade him I need some sort of decent picks back without taking on too much salary.
Just want this whole ordeal done one way or another, because it seems until this is resolved we'll have no direction.

Because when you have a player taking advantage of a situation where he puts personal goals(points) ahead of the team, you have to move him if the overall goal is to win games. If he was younger you'd try and rehabilitate the mindset, but he's 33- he is what he is now. Carmelo shooting long twos isn't helping the Knicks win.

3eePointGoal · Post #1039 » by **3eePointGoal** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 11:55 pm

Billy Goat wrote:
3eePointGoal wrote:
Billy Goat wrote:
Basically as Knicks fans we have to accept we're going to allow Melo to chuck away on a 30 win team for the next two years.

Not really. All I'm saying is, why make a move for the sake of making a move.
I know some people look at it as one step backwards two step forwards in getting rid of melo at this time(or some just two steps forward).. That being said, if melo is traded away for trash just to get rid of him it might put us in a worst situation. Especially if we take on long ass contracts and **** ass picks. His contract is short, and not horrible in my opinion, considering the deals being given away. If I'm going to trade him I need some sort of decent picks back without taking on too much salary.
Just want this whole ordeal done one way or another, because it seems until this is resolved we'll have no direction.

Because when you have a player taking advantage of a situation where he puts personal goals(points) ahead of the team, you have to move him if the overall goal is to win games. If he was younger you'd try and rehabilitate the mindset, but he's 33- he is what he is now. Carmelo shooting long twos isn't helping the Knicks win.

Your point if straight on. So what would you take back that would satisfy u? I'm about decent picks n no longer contracts than him. If... If the contract is longer than melos. Then the picks must be better than decent.

Billy Goat · Post #1040 » by **Billy Goat** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 11:59 pm

3eePointGoal wrote:
Billy Goat wrote:
3eePointGoal wrote:Not really. All I'm saying is, why make a move for the sake of making a move.
I know some people look at it as one step backwards two step forwards in getting rid of melo at this time(or some just two steps forward).. That being said, if melo is traded away for trash just to get rid of him it might put us in a worst situation. Especially if we take on long ass contracts and **** ass picks. His contract is short, and not horrible in my opinion, considering the deals being given away. If I'm going to trade him I need some sort of decent picks back without taking on too much salary.
Just want this whole ordeal done one way or another, because it seems until this is resolved we'll have no direction.

Because when you have a player taking advantage of a situation where he puts personal goals(points) ahead of the team, you have to move him if the overall goal is to win games. If he was younger you'd try and rehabilitate the mindset, but he's 33- he is what he is now. Carmelo shooting long twos isn't helping the Knicks win.

Your point if straight on. So what would you take back that would satisfy u? I'm about decent picks n no longer contracts than him. If... If the contract is longer than melos. Then the picks must be better than decent.

If Dolan isn't going to budge on the buyout I'd stomach Ryan Anderson. You can at least bench him without anyone caring which isn't the case with Carmelo.

Should Melo Be Traded