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Re: Pick 36: Knicks Draft Mitchell Robinson welcome to the block party 

Post#1021 » by Capn'O » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:47 pm

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E-Balla wrote:I'm just mad we don't have both. What's better than one good, high potential young C? Two good, high potential young Cs. Those two and KP would've been the most fearful bigman trio in 3 years if we didn't have to pay Willy too much.


The Willy situation was unfortunate. I think by spring they had to trade them but it could have been avoided with a little foresight/coordination, imo. Willy didn't help the situation either.

It could've been avoided by benching Kanter for him and making him backup. Actually with some luck that would've made him opt out too. Two birds with one stone, keep Willy happy, and make Kanter bounce. It didn't take foresight I was saying it from the first time I saw Willy on the floor he obviously had NBA talent.


Foresight in terms of how they approached the season to not piss off potential long term pieces.
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Re: Pick 36: Knicks Draft Mitchell Robinson welcome to the block party 

Post#1022 » by E-Balla » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:50 pm

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The Willy situation was unfortunate. I think by spring they had to trade them but it could have been avoided with a little foresight/coordination, imo. Willy didn't help the situation either.

It could've been avoided by benching Kanter for him and making him backup. Actually with some luck that would've made him opt out too. Two birds with one stone, keep Willy happy, and make Kanter bounce. It didn't take foresight I was saying it from the first time I saw Willy on the floor he obviously had NBA talent.


Foresight in terms of how they approached the season to not piss off potential long term pieces.

I get you. Basically the Knicks needed to not be the Knicks. We could've had a great, young supporting cast around KP with just a little bit of common sense in the front office. We'll probably end up letting Trey walk too knowing Mills.
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Re: Pick 36: Knicks Draft Mitchell Robinson welcome to the block party 

Post#1023 » by BBALLER4FR » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:51 pm

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Make the money count Mitch.



take that for data!!!


And unlike the bigs who went top 5, nothing is run for Mitchell Robinson and the only expectation appears to be to "make something happen".
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Re: Pick 36: Knicks Draft Mitchell Robinson welcome to the block party 

Post#1024 » by stuporman » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:54 pm

Why are people pining for a big with very little bounce and is terrible defensively in the thread welcoming a rookie who's better than him? Go suck a willy....
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Re: Pick 36: Knicks Draft Mitchell Robinson welcome to the block party 

Post#1025 » by Illightinati » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:56 pm

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Make the money count Mitch.



take that for data!!!


And unlike the bigs who went top 5, nothing is run for Mitchell Robinson and the only expectation appears to be to "make something happen".


The fact that nothing has been run for these kids by Fiz yet is inspirational. He's gonna use the film to keep the game comfortable for them, and show them how the game can be much simpler/where they can be most efficient.
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Re: Pick 36: We finally got our mitchell Welcome to the knicks 

Post#1026 » by Jeff Van Gully » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:08 pm

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Are We Ther Yet wrote:Our FC has tremendous potential. Knox/KP/Robinson could be a dominating trio. Frank being a pass first, great defender will actually be a plus. I hope Hezonja can fit in with these 4. That's about as long as you get for a lineup. Defense. Offense. Fast breaks. Oh my.

mario is the knicks most athletic backcourt player, i think he'll have no problem fitting in. :lol:


but he's a frontcourt player... and probably not the most athletic. mitchell robinson alone gets that title.
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Re: Pick 36: Knicks Draft Mitchell Robinson welcome to the block party 

Post#1027 » by ChaosHamster » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:09 pm

stuporman wrote:Why are people pining for a big with very little bounce and is terrible defensively in the thread welcoming a rookie who's better than him? Go suck a willy....


some still think Willy was/is good
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Re: Pick 36: Knicks Draft Mitchell Robinson welcome to the block party 

Post#1029 » by Jeff Van Gully » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:22 pm

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E-Balla wrote:It could've been avoided by benching Kanter for him and making him backup. Actually with some luck that would've made him opt out too. Two birds with one stone, keep Willy happy, and make Kanter bounce. It didn't take foresight I was saying it from the first time I saw Willy on the floor he obviously had NBA talent.


Foresight in terms of how they approached the season to not piss off potential long term pieces.

I get you. Basically the Knicks needed to not be the Knicks. We could've had a great, young supporting cast around KP with just a little bit of common sense in the front office. We'll probably end up letting Trey walk too knowing Mills.


i don't think anyone in the FO saw willy as part of that after phil was gone. he is kind of the antithesis of the team's present direction.

he didn't help himself by not showing up to work properly and competing. he wasn't happy. he wasn't professional. he gone.

he wanted exactly what you wanted: an automatic unearned promotion to the top of the heap. come get it, young bol. he couldn't play himself into a timeshare with a career timeshare player in kanter. so... :dontknow:
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Re: Pick 36: Knicks Draft Mitchell Robinson welcome to the block party 

Post#1030 » by Jeff Van Gully » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:23 pm

stuporman wrote:Why are people pining for a big with very little bounce and is terrible defensively in the thread welcoming a rookie who's better than him? Go suck a willy....


i understand people who feel the asset was mismanaged. but, man. he really shot himself in the foot in every way possible. why should anyone have been in a rush to reward that?
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Post#1031 » by Jeff Van Gully » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:24 pm

anyway... watching money makin mitch fly up and down the court blocking shots and playing with passion brings a damn tear to my eye.
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Post#1032 » by Jeff Van Gully » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:26 pm

all i really want to know is when can we trade enes. i am one of the folks here who likes him... but the future is them lanky boys. i'll drive you to the airport, big homie.
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Post#1033 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:34 pm

Jeff Van Gully wrote:all i really want to know is when can we trade enes. i am one of the folks here who likes him... but the future is them lanky boys. i'll drive you to the airport, big homie.


You believe someone will want Kanter's expiring contract mid-season?
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Post#1034 » by stuporman » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:40 pm

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stuporman wrote:Why are people pining for a big with very little bounce and is terrible defensively in the thread welcoming a rookie who's better than him? Go suck a willy....


i understand people who feel the asset was mismanaged. but, man. he really shot himself in the foot in every way possible. why should anyone have been in a rush to reward that?


They did mismanage the asset and that has been my biggest gripe with the FO in the year they have been in place, mismanaging assets. Both with Willy and the Mudiay deal I think they let their own perception of players value cloud their judgment.

The Melo situation was different since they had certain constraints that didn't allow them to freely operate but wound up doing ok with that anyway.

He didn't help the situation with his attitude and showing up not ready to compete plus the coach surely hurt it so does letting Jeffy screw around like that fall on the FO, too? Probably.
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Post#1035 » by Meat » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:44 pm

stuporman wrote:Why are people pining for a big with very little bounce and is terrible defensively in the thread welcoming a rookie who's better than him? Go suck a willy....

its not that i think willy is amazing, it's that he was an asset who's value the knicks tanked because jeff wanted to keep his job.
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Post#1036 » by Side beard » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:49 pm

I read that some want Mitch become bigger. I think all he needs is strength. With his mobility, he and KP can become a terror for opposing teams.
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Post#1037 » by E-Balla » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:50 pm

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Foresight in terms of how they approached the season to not piss off potential long term pieces.

I get you. Basically the Knicks needed to not be the Knicks. We could've had a great, young supporting cast around KP with just a little bit of common sense in the front office. We'll probably end up letting Trey walk too knowing Mills.


i don't think anyone in the FO saw willy as part of that after phil was gone. he is kind of the antithesis of the team's present direction.

he didn't help himself by not showing up to work properly and competing. he wasn't happy. he wasn't professional. he gone.

he wanted exactly what you wanted: an automatic unearned promotion to the top of the heap. come get it, young bol. he couldn't play himself into a timeshare with a career timeshare player in kanter. so... :dontknow:

Automatic? He averaged 8/7 as a rookie and made the all rookie team. If you dont award your workers in any field for hard work don't be mad they decrease in morale. He goes to Charlotte, they play him once he works hard, and now he looks like he'll contend for the starting spot.
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Post#1038 » by stuporman » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:53 pm

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stuporman wrote:Why are people pining for a big with very little bounce and is terrible defensively in the thread welcoming a rookie who's better than him? Go suck a willy....

its not that i think willy is amazing, it's that he was an asset who's value the knicks tanked because jeff wanted to keep his job.


His value tanked when he didn't show up ready to compete for the job, didn't play good enough to beat out who he was competing with and then openly whined when his own actions resulted in him not getting the minutes he thought he deserved but didn't earn. He tanked his own value and Jeffy didn't help improve it, that I'll agree with.

Is a big who doesn't play a style that fits the modern NBA and is really only effective on one side of the court all that valuable? I guess there will always be some shortsighted team looking for a inside scoring and rebounding big who doesn't play defense but I think his value is getting overrated now on this forum.
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Re: Pick 36: Knicks Draft Mitchell Robinson welcome to the block party 

Post#1039 » by god shammgod » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:58 pm

Jeff Van Gully wrote:all i really want to know is when can we trade enes. i am one of the folks here who likes him... but the future is them lanky boys. i'll drive you to the airport, big homie.


the only trade would be one where he is used to make contracts match - i.e., if we really did trade for jimmy butler or something like that. otherwise i don't see it. except for that reason, i would waive him to be honest. and certainly they should after the deadline. let him go join a playoff team. it's better for him.
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Post#1040 » by Jeff Van Gully » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:58 pm

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Jeff Van Gully wrote:all i really want to know is when can we trade enes. i am one of the folks here who likes him... but the future is them lanky boys. i'll drive you to the airport, big homie.


You believe someone will want Kanter's expiring contract mid-season?


possible if they're winning and could use help. of course, i wouldn't want any salary back. more of a lesser expiring player and a 9th round pick type of thing. :lol:

or... use him as a chip in the kyrie trade when he asks to come to NY.

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