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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1021 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Jun 6, 2020 11:27 pm

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It looks like a jackass cop but...there's not enough here to tell their story or give any context as to why the cop was behaving that way. Mad dogging?


Well, if there was probable cause to believe that the young man, who is simply leaning back against the car causing no threat to the officers, had committed a crime, then they simply would've arrested him. The fact that the officer begins to eventually back off because he knew he was in the wrong. Then the kid fcked up and had to add a little extra au jus on top by calling the cop "a (Please Use More Appropriate Word)." First of all, the kid just lost all progressives who were ready to get behind him as a hero. Second, he had just won the fight. Just continue to lean back against the car, weight on one leg with your arms folded and a fcking big-ass smirk on his face. But nooooooo, he had get that extra shot in after the bell. Cost ya every time.
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1022 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Jun 6, 2020 11:30 pm

By the way, one, I hope I'm not offending anyone with my new avatar. I welcome anyone else to wishes to use it in solidarity and support for George Floyd, his family and friends, his community and as a symbol of the entire police defunding and reform movement.
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1023 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sat Jun 6, 2020 11:34 pm

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It looks like a jackass cop but...there's not enough here to tell their story or give any context as to why the cop was behaving that way. Mad dogging?


Well, if there was probable cause to believe that the young man, who is simply leaning back against the car causing no threat to the officers, had committed a crime, then they simply would've arrested him. The fact that the officer begins to eventually back off because he knew he was in the wrong. Then the kid fcked up and had to add a little extra au jus on top by calling the cop "a (Please Use More Appropriate Word)." First of all, the kid just lost all progressives who were ready to get behind him as a hero. Second, he had just won the fight. Just continue to lean back against the car, weight on one leg with your arms folded and a fcking big-ass smirk on his face. But nooooooo, he had get that extra shot in after the bell. Cost ya every time.


Like I said...looks like a jackass cop on a power trip. I agree with your post but...fact still remains...there's just not enough to go on here. I'm not gonna get too invested in a minute long clip with zero context or ending.
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1024 » by Fat Kat » Sat Jun 6, 2020 11:37 pm

Are We Ther Yet wrote:
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It looks like a jackass cop but...there's not enough here to tell their story or give any context as to why the cop was behaving that way. Mad dogging?


Well, if there was probable cause to believe that the young man, who is simply leaning back against the car causing no threat to the officers, had committed a crime, then they simply would've arrested him. The fact that the officer begins to eventually back off because he knew he was in the wrong. Then the kid fcked up and had to add a little extra au jus on top by calling the cop "a (Please Use More Appropriate Word)." First of all, the kid just lost all progressives who were ready to get behind him as a hero. Second, he had just won the fight. Just continue to lean back against the car, weight on one leg with your arms folded and a fcking big-ass smirk on his face. But nooooooo, he had get that extra shot in after the bell. Cost ya every time.


Like I said...looks like a jackass cop on a power trip. I agree with your post but...fact still remains...there's just not enough to go on here. I'm not gonna get too invested in a minute long clip with zero context or ending.


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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1026 » by robillionaire » Sat Jun 6, 2020 11:44 pm

This curfew is extremely dangerous and they have suspended habeus corpus and can essentially detain anybody indefinitely. Thanks again de Blasio
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1027 » by Phish Tank » Sat Jun 6, 2020 11:45 pm

i wish we could hold the pensions of these crooked cops hostage and then redistribute those to the people
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1028 » by Fat Kat » Sat Jun 6, 2020 11:50 pm

Phish Tank wrote:i wish we could hold the pensions of these crooked cops hostage and then redistribute those to the people


If we would use their pension fund to settle the police brutality lawsuits, we’d see a drastic decrease in the abuse.
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1029 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sat Jun 6, 2020 11:56 pm

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Phish Tank wrote:i wish we could hold the pensions of these crooked cops hostage and then redistribute those to the people


If we would use their pension fund to settle the police brutality lawsuits, we’d see a drastic decrease in the abuse.


This is actually a brilliant suggestion. Cops would think 10x before being power tripping jerkoffs!
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1030 » by Phish Tank » Sun Jun 7, 2020 12:16 am

Are We Ther Yet wrote:
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Phish Tank wrote:i wish we could hold the pensions of these crooked cops hostage and then redistribute those to the people


If we would use their pension fund to settle the police brutality lawsuits, we’d see a drastic decrease in the abuse.


This is actually a brilliant suggestion. Cops would think 10x before being power tripping jerkoffs!


That was one of my ideas. Use their pensions and take them hostage in any instance of police brutality. Other option I was thinking of is requiring every police department to purchase liability insurance and especially use it to cover any settlements/judgments paid to the families of victims of police brutality.... that might be more constitutional than using pension funds to do that.... but probably equally complicated.

NYC uses CompStat to evaluate officers, but that system is heavily flawed.
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1031 » by Fat Kat » Sun Jun 7, 2020 12:28 am

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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1032 » by robillionaire » Sun Jun 7, 2020 12:48 am

Why do they have a 15 year old mayor
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1033 » by Retired_Doc » Sun Jun 7, 2020 1:17 am

Hmmm, appears that our "hero" was not exactly a model citizen.

According to Daily Mail (UK), the court report mentions that the victim identified George, tallest of all the robbers, who pressed a pistol to her stomach and forced his way into the house. George Floyd’s height was 6 foot 6 inches.

‘THIS LARGE SUSPECT THEN PROCEEDED TO SEARCH THE RESIDENCE WHILE ANOTHER ARMED SUSPECT GUARDED THE COMPLAINANT, WHO WAS STRUCK IN THE HEAD AND SIDES BY THIS SECOND ARMED SUSPECT WITH HIS PISTOL WHILE SHE SCREAMED FOR HELP.’

Hennepin County medical examiners released the toxicology report on June 2nd, 2020 which stated that George Floyd was indeed intoxicated with Fentanyl, Methamphetamine, and traces of cannabinoids and morphine at the time of his death.

George Floyd Baggie: Cocaine Arrests
George was also linked to two convictions in the 1990s for possession and theft of a controlled substance (cocaine). However, it is not clear whether or not Floyd served his time in prison for this felony.

George was accused of a firearm robbery in August 1998 for which he served 10 months at Harris County Jail. In April 2002, Floyd was condemned to 30 days of prison for trespassing private property.

George Floyd was involved in two more cocaine offenses, in October 2002 and in 2004, for which he did eight-months and ten-months sentence in prison respectively.

Another cocaine possession conviction in Dec 2005, Floyd was arrested for having cocaine on him and served 10 months in state jail.

After a few months, Floyd’s charge was upgraded, amending the cocaine amount he possessed to be about 4 grams.
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1034 » by Context » Sun Jun 7, 2020 1:30 am

Retired_Doc wrote:Hmmm, appears that our "hero" was not exactly a model citizen.

According to Daily Mail (UK), the court report mentions that the victim identified George, tallest of all the robbers, who pressed a pistol to her stomach and forced his way into the house. George Floyd’s height was 6 foot 6 inches.

‘THIS LARGE SUSPECT THEN PROCEEDED TO SEARCH THE RESIDENCE WHILE ANOTHER ARMED SUSPECT GUARDED THE COMPLAINANT, WHO WAS STRUCK IN THE HEAD AND SIDES BY THIS SECOND ARMED SUSPECT WITH HIS PISTOL WHILE SHE SCREAMED FOR HELP.’

Hennepin County medical examiners released the toxicology report on June 2nd, 2020 which stated that George Floyd was indeed intoxicated with Fentanyl, Methamphetamine, and traces of cannabinoids and morphine at the time of his death.

George Floyd Baggie: Cocaine Arrests
George was also linked to two convictions in the 1990s for possession and theft of a controlled substance (cocaine). However, it is not clear whether or not Floyd served his time in prison for this felony.

George was accused of a firearm robbery in August 1998 for which he served 10 months at Harris County Jail. In April 2002, Floyd was condemned to 30 days of prison for trespassing private property.

George Floyd was involved in two more cocaine offenses, in October 2002 and in 2004, for which he did eight-months and ten-months sentence in prison respectively.

Another cocaine possession conviction in Dec 2005, Floyd was arrested for having cocaine on him and served 10 months in state jail.

After a few months, Floyd’s charge was upgraded, amending the cocaine amount he possessed to be about 4 grams.

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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1035 » by Retired_Doc » Sun Jun 7, 2020 1:39 am

Context wrote:
Retired_Doc wrote:Hmmm, appears that our "hero" was not exactly a model citizen.

According to Daily Mail (UK), the court report mentions that the victim identified George, tallest of all the robbers, who pressed a pistol to her stomach and forced his way into the house. George Floyd’s height was 6 foot 6 inches.

‘THIS LARGE SUSPECT THEN PROCEEDED TO SEARCH THE RESIDENCE WHILE ANOTHER ARMED SUSPECT GUARDED THE COMPLAINANT, WHO WAS STRUCK IN THE HEAD AND SIDES BY THIS SECOND ARMED SUSPECT WITH HIS PISTOL WHILE SHE SCREAMED FOR HELP.’

Hennepin County medical examiners released the toxicology report on June 2nd, 2020 which stated that George Floyd was indeed intoxicated with Fentanyl, Methamphetamine, and traces of cannabinoids and morphine at the time of his death.

George Floyd Baggie: Cocaine Arrests
George was also linked to two convictions in the 1990s for possession and theft of a controlled substance (cocaine). However, it is not clear whether or not Floyd served his time in prison for this felony.

George was accused of a firearm robbery in August 1998 for which he served 10 months at Harris County Jail. In April 2002, Floyd was condemned to 30 days of prison for trespassing private property.

George Floyd was involved in two more cocaine offenses, in October 2002 and in 2004, for which he did eight-months and ten-months sentence in prison respectively.

Another cocaine possession conviction in Dec 2005, Floyd was arrested for having cocaine on him and served 10 months in state jail.

After a few months, Floyd’s charge was upgraded, amending the cocaine amount he possessed to be about 4 grams.

Doc im disappointed in this post by you...

you ever get addicted to drugs?


Yes, I was "minimally addicted" back in the 60's. I attended the original "Woodstock" in 1969 and it was pretty hard to avoid the stuff back then. A year or so later I quit all of them, including organic mescaline, dubbed the best 8 hour stomach ache you could ever have, which had been my favorite. So since the early seventies I'm clean. Don't drink, don't smoke, exercise every day and hope to live till 111. :)
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1036 » by RHODEY » Sun Jun 7, 2020 1:53 am

Retired_Doc wrote:Hmmm, appears that our "hero" was not exactly a model citizen.

According to Daily Mail (UK), the court report mentions that the victim identified George, tallest of all the robbers, who pressed a pistol to her stomach and forced his way into the house. George Floyd’s height was 6 foot 6 inches.

‘THIS LARGE SUSPECT THEN PROCEEDED TO SEARCH THE RESIDENCE WHILE ANOTHER ARMED SUSPECT GUARDED THE COMPLAINANT, WHO WAS STRUCK IN THE HEAD AND SIDES BY THIS SECOND ARMED SUSPECT WITH HIS PISTOL WHILE SHE SCREAMED FOR HELP.’

Hennepin County medical examiners released the toxicology report on June 2nd, 2020 which stated that George Floyd was indeed intoxicated with Fentanyl, Methamphetamine, and traces of cannabinoids and morphine at the time of his death.

George Floyd Baggie: Cocaine Arrests
George was also linked to two convictions in the 1990s for possession and theft of a controlled substance (cocaine). However, it is not clear whether or not Floyd served his time in prison for this felony.

George was accused of a firearm robbery in August 1998 for which he served 10 months at Harris County Jail. In April 2002, Floyd was condemned to 30 days of prison for trespassing private property.

George Floyd was involved in two more cocaine offenses, in October 2002 and in 2004, for which he did eight-months and ten-months sentence in prison respectively.

Another cocaine possession conviction in Dec 2005, Floyd was arrested for having cocaine on him and served 10 months in state jail.

After a few months, Floyd’s charge was upgraded, amending the cocaine amount he possessed to be about 4 grams.


Hmmm so because he had a rap sheet for robberies and drug cases do you feel he deserved to be slowly asphyxiated to death while handcuffed and pleading for mercy?
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1037 » by robillionaire » Sun Jun 7, 2020 1:55 am

literally bringing up **** from 20 and 30 years ago to try to justify his murder. pathetic.
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1038 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Jun 7, 2020 2:28 am

Fat Kat wrote:
Phish Tank wrote:i wish we could hold the pensions of these crooked cops hostage and then redistribute those to the people


If we would use their pension fund to settle the police brutality lawsuits, we’d see a drastic decrease in the abuse.


Having defended those lawsuits on behalf of the City of Philadelphia, I can tell you that we'd get these horrific lawsuits, settle the case, and then we'd fire the officer only to have the labor arbitrator send them back to work. Very frustrating. Which is why we need to rid ourselves of the police unions. Do you know that why union membership in unions, generally, across the country is down, police unions and their memberships are way up.
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1039 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Jun 7, 2020 2:31 am

Retired_Doc wrote:
Context wrote:
Retired_Doc wrote:Hmmm, appears that our "hero" was not exactly a model citizen.

According to Daily Mail (UK), the court report mentions that the victim identified George, tallest of all the robbers, who pressed a pistol to her stomach and forced his way into the house. George Floyd’s height was 6 foot 6 inches.

‘THIS LARGE SUSPECT THEN PROCEEDED TO SEARCH THE RESIDENCE WHILE ANOTHER ARMED SUSPECT GUARDED THE COMPLAINANT, WHO WAS STRUCK IN THE HEAD AND SIDES BY THIS SECOND ARMED SUSPECT WITH HIS PISTOL WHILE SHE SCREAMED FOR HELP.’

Hennepin County medical examiners released the toxicology report on June 2nd, 2020 which stated that George Floyd was indeed intoxicated with Fentanyl, Methamphetamine, and traces of cannabinoids and morphine at the time of his death.

George Floyd Baggie: Cocaine Arrests
George was also linked to two convictions in the 1990s for possession and theft of a controlled substance (cocaine). However, it is not clear whether or not Floyd served his time in prison for this felony.

George was accused of a firearm robbery in August 1998 for which he served 10 months at Harris County Jail. In April 2002, Floyd was condemned to 30 days of prison for trespassing private property.

George Floyd was involved in two more cocaine offenses, in October 2002 and in 2004, for which he did eight-months and ten-months sentence in prison respectively.

Another cocaine possession conviction in Dec 2005, Floyd was arrested for having cocaine on him and served 10 months in state jail.

After a few months, Floyd’s charge was upgraded, amending the cocaine amount he possessed to be about 4 grams.

Doc im disappointed in this post by you...

you ever get addicted to drugs?


Yes, I was "minimally addicted" back in the 60's. I attended the original "Woodstock" in 1969 and it was pretty hard to avoid the stuff back then. A year or so later I quit all of them, including organic mescaline, dubbed the best 8 hour stomach ache you could ever have, which had been my favorite. So since the early seventies I'm clean. Don't drink, don't smoke, exercise every day and hope to live till 111. :)


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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1040 » by Phish Tank » Sun Jun 7, 2020 2:39 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Fat Kat wrote:
Phish Tank wrote:i wish we could hold the pensions of these crooked cops hostage and then redistribute those to the people


If we would use their pension fund to settle the police brutality lawsuits, we’d see a drastic decrease in the abuse.


Having defended those lawsuits on behalf of the City of Philadelphia, I can tell you that we'd get these horrific lawsuits, settle the case, and then we'd fire the officer only to have the labor arbitrator send them back to work. Very frustrating. Which is why we need to rid ourselves of the police unions. Do you know that why union membership in unions, generally, across the country is down, police unions and their memberships are way up.


so we gotta gut the police unions right? I guess we just audit them to death?
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