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Re: Woj Kemba buying out of okc signing with NYC 

Post#1021 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Aug 9, 2021 5:30 pm

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they become role players after getting bought out. so if that's what kemba is now, why did everyone celebrate so much ? because everyone hated the off season before that signing. is the role player version of kemba making that big a difference for what we did ? personally, i would have rather seen iq with extended minutes as the backup. now that everyone watched summer league, would you rather see noel as the backup or see them develop sims there ?

i don't even know why people would want to make the playoffs unless the young kids all played prominent roles. does it mean anything if the reason we're there are because of guys like rose & burks ? there's no future in that.


Cuz even a role playing Kemba is an upgrade over Elf. Just as a role playing Rose was an upgrade Dennis Brick Jr.

Playing kids just cuz they’re kids doesn’t accomplish development. At some point the young player has to show you they are worth the investment of their development.

As for IQ specifically, I’ve seen all I need to see to determine he is not a starting PG in the NBA. He is going to likely top out as a 6th man scoring undersized SG off the bench. And that’s exactly where he is slotted with the current roster construction.

Kemba/Rose even as role players who are not the former version of themselves is still an upgrade over where we started last season as our PG rotation. If you and Melo have concerns about their health and wish to develop kids at the position, well that is what Miles McBride is here for. Both veteran PGs will require load management and McBride can step in at those times. He also gets to go up against these two vets battling them in practice almost daily. He will develop fine in that setting, and way more rapidly than just being handed the keys to a team looking to win and risking having too much on his plate too early. It also beats a scenario where he is backing up Elf and masquerading as a savior cuz the fans prefer ANYONE to elf.

C’mon bro, if you’re telling me you preferred to see IQ for extended backup PG mins then you’re essentially telling me you wanted that to lead to further complaints cuz that would be a situation of miscasting him as something he’s clearly not — as we are currently seeing in Summer League.


Shammgod and Melo are terrible people. They are running around in here calling Kemba "Kemba With A Walker".
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Re: Woj Kemba buying out of okc signing with NYC 

Post#1022 » by Capn'O » Mon Aug 9, 2021 6:24 pm

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they become role players after getting bought out. so if that's what kemba is now, why did everyone celebrate so much ? because everyone hated the off season before that signing. is the role player version of kemba making that big a difference for what we did ? personally, i would have rather seen iq with extended minutes as the backup. now that everyone watched summer league, would you rather see noel as the backup or see them develop sims there ?

i don't even know why people would want to make the playoffs unless the young kids all played prominent roles. does it mean anything if the reason we're there are because of guys like rose & burks ? there's no future in that.


Cuz even a role playing Kemba is an upgrade over Elf. Just as a role playing Rose was an upgrade Dennis Brick Jr.

Playing kids just cuz they’re kids doesn’t accomplish development. At some point the young player has to show you they are worth the investment of their development.

As for IQ specifically, I’ve seen all I need to see to determine he is not a starting PG in the NBA. He is going to likely top out as a 6th man scoring undersized SG off the bench. And that’s exactly where he is slotted with the current roster construction.

Kemba/Rose even as role players who are not the former version of themselves is still an upgrade over where we started last season as our PG rotation. If you and Melo have concerns about their health and wish to develop kids at the position, well that is what Miles McBride is here for. Both veteran PGs will require load management and McBride can step in at those times. He also gets to go up against these two vets battling them in practice almost daily. He will develop fine in that setting, and way more rapidly than just being handed the keys to a team looking to win and risking having too much on his plate too early. It also beats a scenario where he is backing up Elf and masquerading as a savior cuz the fans prefer ANYONE to elf.

C’mon bro, if you’re telling me you preferred to see IQ for extended backup PG mins then you’re essentially telling me you wanted that to lead to further complaints cuz that would be a situation of miscasting him as something he’s clearly not — as we are currently seeing in Summer League.


it's a new role for him, he's supposed to fail at first. if he's ever gonna be something more than a backup he has to play point because he's too small for a starting 2. that's why the knicks are trying it now. i would have liked them trying him during the regular season too as the backup to rose. he played with the ball last year a lot actually. it wasn't like he was strictly an off-ball player. to be fair, the worst part of his game yesterday was shooting. and we're not gonna decide based on 1 game that he can't shoot.


I agree they should experiment with him there but I'm not optimistic that he'll be able to do it for more than spells. Would love to be wrong.
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Post#1023 » by KnicksGadfly » Mon Aug 9, 2021 6:31 pm

Kemba improves the floor at a low cost. We actually have DRose as a key piece, but no one wants to play him 30ish minutes like in the past. If Kemba balls out, we pick up the option. If IQ can take Kemba's job, I'd be damn happy and it'd be easy to reject his option next season. If IQ can't ball out, he'll still be paired with DRose off the bench, where they do really well. If Kemba sucks, we reject the option, but 8 mill is less than MLE money.

I think the only guy left who could have given us something similar to what we want from Kemba is Reggie, who got a 11 1+1 contract and has his flaws. Shroeder meh...should have taken that money.
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Post#1024 » by TheGreenArrow » Mon Aug 9, 2021 7:49 pm

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Wait why give up 20mil dollars if you’re medicals are bad and your on your last legs??!!!!

Dude’s about have a major comeback folks!!!!!!!!!!
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Wait why give up 20mil dollars if you’re medicals are bad and your on your last legs??!!!!

Dude’s about have a major comeback folks!!!!!!!!!!

He gave up 20 million, but we paid him 16 million for his contract. So all in all he gave up 4 million. Not that much to give up to go from Oklahoma to his home town team.
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Wait why give up 20mil dollars if you’re medicals are bad and your on your last legs??!!!!

Dude’s about have a major comeback folks!!!!!!!!!!


Yet our front office couldnt convince noah to give back one red **** cent :banghead:
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Post#1028 » by whocares1 » Mon Aug 9, 2021 9:32 pm

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Wait why give up 20mil dollars if you’re medicals are bad and your on your last legs??!!!!

Dude’s about have a major comeback folks!!!!!!!!!!


Yet our front office couldnt convince noah to give back one red **** cent :banghead:


Bc …he was on his last legs?
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Post#1029 » by TheGreenArrow » Mon Aug 9, 2021 10:35 pm

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Post#1030 » by Riot Randolph » Mon Aug 9, 2021 10:49 pm

Kemba going to be cooking up alot of crow for some of you...no he won't play 30+ mpg but I expect a productive 20-25 with ~17ppg 5apg
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Post#1031 » by DickGrayson » Mon Aug 9, 2021 10:52 pm

Kem8a gonna drop 18 ppg 5apg on 41%3pt. The haters will be hurt when we resign him.
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Re: Woj Kemba buying out of okc signing with NYC 

Post#1032 » by TheGreenArrow » Mon Aug 9, 2021 11:02 pm

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Cuz even a role playing Kemba is an upgrade over Elf. Just as a role playing Rose was an upgrade Dennis Brick Jr.

Playing kids just cuz they’re kids doesn’t accomplish development. At some point the young player has to show you they are worth the investment of their development.

As for IQ specifically, I’ve seen all I need to see to determine he is not a starting PG in the NBA. He is going to likely top out as a 6th man scoring undersized SG off the bench. And that’s exactly where he is slotted with the current roster construction.

Kemba/Rose even as role players who are not the former version of themselves is still an upgrade over where we started last season as our PG rotation. If you and Melo have concerns about their health and wish to develop kids at the position, well that is what Miles McBride is here for. Both veteran PGs will require load management and McBride can step in at those times. He also gets to go up against these two vets battling them in practice almost daily. He will develop fine in that setting, and way more rapidly than just being handed the keys to a team looking to win and risking having too much on his plate too early. It also beats a scenario where he is backing up Elf and masquerading as a savior cuz the fans prefer ANYONE to elf.

C’mon bro, if you’re telling me you preferred to see IQ for extended backup PG mins then you’re essentially telling me you wanted that to lead to further complaints cuz that would be a situation of miscasting him as something he’s clearly not — as we are currently seeing in Summer League.


Nah that’s not it!!!

He’s just mad that we didn’t sign his boy Schroeder!!!!

That’s what this kemba hate is all about!!!

Melo would have rather seen us lock up Schroeder for 15-18 mil a year instead of getting kemba!!!!

What kemba hate? Saying to temper down expectations is hate? :lol:

You’re the most terrible person on earth!!!!!


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Post#1033 » by FrozenEnvelope » Mon Aug 9, 2021 11:31 pm

I'll be content if Kemba is 2010/2013 Felton.

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Wait why give up 20mil dollars if you’re medicals are bad and your on your last legs??!!!!

Dude’s about have a major comeback folks!!!!!!!!!!

Knicks probably max him next season.
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Post#1035 » by F N 11 » Tue Aug 10, 2021 12:18 am

Kemba is a closer as well. Do not forget that fact.
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Post#1037 » by Im Coming Home » Tue Aug 10, 2021 12:49 am

When will Kemba officially sign so he can make cool statements about coming back home and all that ish to make us feel warm and fuzzy
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Post#1038 » by rajajackal » Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:00 am

oseubas wrote:I'll be content if Kemba is 2010/2013 Felton.

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2010 felton was dope. 2013 felton has been whitewashed by history (bc the 2012-13 season was the most enjoyable 82 games in many fans' lives). i will never forget how frustrating it was to watch that fat f*ck
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