BAT 8.0 TRADE DISCUSSION (DRAFT IN OTHER THREAD) PART II

Blue Ninja · Post #1041 » by **Blue Ninja** » Sun Sep 2, 2012 2:15 pm

Knicksfan20 wrote:The rules that were posted is what im going by. It clearly states in the rules that he is eligible, so there for he is eligable.

Come on man, its clearly a non-updated section. Since we were doing 2012 draft picks, that should be 2012 draft picks and guys who played last year. You're a vet in this, you should know that. Just repick, you know Mirotic would've been gone way before if he was eligible.

TDJacksonville · Post #1042 » by **TDJacksonville** » Sun Sep 2, 2012 2:16 pm

Blue Ninja wrote:Nikola Mirotic and Mehmet Okur are not eligible since they have singed overseas.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012 ... gar-forman

http://tracking.si.com/2012/06/15/mehme ... rkey-jazz/

great find bro

br7knicks · Post #1043 » by **br7knicks** » Sun Sep 2, 2012 2:16 pm

Knicksfan20 wrote:Good pickup BR. Jeffries was 3rd on my list after Mirotic/curry. He fits yoru team well though as long as he can remain healthy. Your team was really hurting for a defensive player. I still think you need more defense though.

yeah, i know i needed some defense which is why i grabbed him. like you and LJ said, if he can remain healthy, JJ can guard all 5 positions, so i at least wanted to grab him.

my frontcourt defense is fine with Camby, Seraphin and JJ.

Roy is a lockdown, but for how many years is the question. collison and vasquez are both average defenders (collison only having quickness advantage, vasquez having height and size advantage). martin is a poor defender. so addressing that is something i need to look at for the future

Knicksfan20 · Post #1044 » by **Knicksfan20** » Sun Sep 2, 2012 2:16 pm

Ill play nice. Nikolia Vucivic it is then. Although i think its kinda bull ****. But its not a huge deal.

Post #1045 » by **moocow007** » Sun Sep 2, 2012 2:17 pm

The question is whether we want to go by the letter of the rules or the intent behind it. It looks like when The rules were originally copied it was not updated so that any reference to 2011 was changed to 2012 as it should have been. So in that sense, yes, kf20 is right, the rules as posted allows it. It obviously was meant to mean 2012 Draft instead. I'm ok with letting him keep it. Okur otoh I don't believe qualifies even with the unupdated, copied rules.

Blue Ninja · Post #1046 » by **Blue Ninja** » Sun Sep 2, 2012 2:20 pm

Great Vucevic pick. Had great numbers in limited minutes and has a lot of offensive skill.

Post #1047 » by **moocow007** » Sun Sep 2, 2012 2:21 pm

Knicksfan20 wrote:Ill play nice. Nikolia Vucivic it is then. Although i think its kinda bull ****. But its not a huge deal.

Great thanks.

Context · Post #1048 » by **Context** » Sun Sep 2, 2012 2:21 pm

TDJacksonville wrote:
Knicksfan20 wrote:
How can you agree completely when i just posted the rules? The rules clearly state he is eligable. How the hell can yo agree to something that is wrong?

Any player taken in the 2011 draft is eligable. But in 2010 it is not.

because i know Kneega is lazy at times and kneega just copied and pasted without checking the year. doesnt make sense to have 2 Years of Draft classes be considered Rookies. if we are playing that way then i guess 2012 Rookies dont count because the Rules really said nothing about 2012 Draft picks being allowed.

"Lazy" ? come on bro- what r u talking about? First of all, I didn't post the rules initially. 2nd of all you cant be "lazy", live life, work, and run this draft. It's almost impossible :lol:

Besides, I mentioned that my brother and sister who I haven't seen in years flew in- remember? the ones that I got from the airport? :roll:

Ive updated the spreadsheet, trades, players, emailed guys consistently, etc... and I love it! but bro- "Lazy" stooop pls....

OK- now on to the issue....let me go and check the rules....

Blue Ninja · Post #1049 » by **Blue Ninja** » Sun Sep 2, 2012 2:24 pm

Fury wrote:Really wanted Alexey Shved. Didn't think anyone else had it in mind. He was gonna be in my rotation but is the fifth guard in Blue Ninja's team

Sorry man. :lol:

I think he's best to be adjusted to the NBA slowly (especially on defense where he is weak). Thats why hes not in my rotation.

moocow007 wrote:Shved looked pretty good in the Olympics. In fact David Blatt (head coach of the Russian team) actually went with Shved as their go to guy by the time the Olympic games wound down. And I believe Shved paid Blatt back for it by scoring 25 points to lead the Russian team to a win against Argentina for the Bronze. So great pick.

Would have been the same with Motiejunas...the Lithuanian team would have been much better had he been able to play but because he was not able to sign his contract with the Rockets until well after the Lithuanian team had been selected and practiced he decided to not to be part of it. Would have helped the Lithuanians tremendously especially that one game against the US team given Motiejunas shooting and posting ability especially against the short-ish US team.

Yeah I actually saw that game. He always had some flash to his game, but I was really impressed by his shooting ability which I believe was questioned before. Read some reports saying he has improved his game, so at this point had to be a good pick.

Post #1050 » by **moocow007** » Sun Sep 2, 2012 2:25 pm

kneega wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:
Knicksfan20 wrote:
How can you agree completely when i just posted the rules? The rules clearly state he is eligable. How the hell can yo agree to something that is wrong?

Any player taken in the 2011 draft is eligable. But in 2010 it is not.

because i know Kneega is lazy at times and kneega just copied and pasted without checking the year. doesnt make sense to have 2 Years of Draft classes be considered Rookies. if we are playing that way then i guess 2012 Rookies dont count because the Rules really said nothing about 2012 Draft picks being allowed.

"Lazy" ? come on bro- what r u talking about? First of all, I didn't post the rules initially. 2nd of all you cant be "lazy", live life, work, and run this draft. It's almost impossible Besides, I mentioned that my brother and sister who I haven't seen in years flew in- remember? the ones that I got from the airport?

Ive updated the spreadsheet, trades, players, emailed guys consistently, etc... and I love it! but bro- "Lazy" stooop pls....

OK- now on to the issue....let me go and check the rules....

I think it was Fury who did the original copying.

TDJacksonville · Post #1051 » by **TDJacksonville** » Sun Sep 2, 2012 2:27 pm

kneega wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:
Knicksfan20 wrote:
How can you agree completely when i just posted the rules? The rules clearly state he is eligable. How the hell can yo agree to something that is wrong?

Any player taken in the 2011 draft is eligable. But in 2010 it is not.

because i know Kneega is lazy at times and kneega just copied and pasted without checking the year. doesnt make sense to have 2 Years of Draft classes be considered Rookies. if we are playing that way then i guess 2012 Rookies dont count because the Rules really said nothing about 2012 Draft picks being allowed.

"Lazy" ? come on bro- what r u talking about? First of all, I didn't post the rules initially. 2nd of all you cant be "lazy", live life, work, and run this draft. It's almost impossible Besides, I mentioned that my brother and sister who I haven't seen in years flew in- remember? the ones that I got from the airport?

Ive updated the spreadsheet, trades, players, emailed guys consistently, etc... and I love it! but bro- "Lazy" stooop pls....

OK- now on to the issue....let me go and check the rules....

laziness in the sense u didnt check the rules for 2012 in them instead of 2011 bro :wink:

LJ4pointplay · Post #1052 » by **LJ4pointplay** » Sun Sep 2, 2012 2:36 pm

Commandment #1 of B-A-T: Thou shall not speak afoul of kneega

br7knicks · Post #1053 » by **br7knicks** » Sun Sep 2, 2012 2:38 pm

kneega wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:
Knicksfan20 wrote:
How can you agree completely when i just posted the rules? The rules clearly state he is eligable. How the hell can yo agree to something that is wrong?

Any player taken in the 2011 draft is eligable. But in 2010 it is not.

because i know Kneega is lazy at times and kneega just copied and pasted without checking the year. doesnt make sense to have 2 Years of Draft classes be considered Rookies. if we are playing that way then i guess 2012 Rookies dont count because the Rules really said nothing about 2012 Draft picks being allowed.

"Lazy" ? come on bro- what r u talking about? First of all, I didn't post the rules initially. 2nd of all you cant be "lazy", live life, work, and run this draft. It's almost impossible Besides, I mentioned that my brother and sister who I haven't seen in years flew in- remember? the ones that I got from the airport?

Ive updated the spreadsheet, trades, players, emailed guys consistently, etc... and I love it! but bro- "Lazy" stooop pls....

OK- now on to the issue....let me go and check the rules....

yeah, kneega had nothing to do with the rules. i think this BAT was started a bit too hastily, but irregardless, kneega is not to blame anyway. it was a minor mistake at that, and this is really only the first case (glad it happened this late, and not early on).

kneega deserves a long ass vacation after this lol

br7knicks · Post #1054 » by **br7knicks** » Sun Sep 2, 2012 2:39 pm

LJ4pointplay wrote:Commandment #1 of B-A-T: Thou shall not speak afoul of kneega

without him, we'd still be in round 3

Context · Post #1055 » by **Context** » Sun Sep 2, 2012 2:40 pm

TDJacksonville wrote:
kneega wrote:
"Lazy" ? come on bro- what r u talking about? First of all, I didn't post the rules initially. 2nd of all you cant be "lazy", live life, work, and run this draft. It's almost impossible Besides, I mentioned that my brother and sister who I haven't seen in years flew in- remember? the ones that I got from the airport?

Ive updated the spreadsheet, trades, players, emailed guys consistently, etc... and I love it! but bro- "Lazy" stooop pls....

OK- now on to the issue....let me go and check the rules....

laziness in the sense u didnt check the rules for 2012 in them instead of 2011 bro

Even though I didn't post or set this up initially- no one is perfect and bro, when someone takes their time to do something (Fury) you focus on their effort. So Fury- again, thank you! If you didn't start this draft who knows when we would have started it....

Td, lets just move on- water under the bridge and can we all enjoy the rest of the draft?

Grinditout · Post #1056 » by **Grinditout** » Sun Sep 2, 2012 2:43 pm

Anybody else feel that 2012 draftees made a whole lot of other players drop so much. Just comparing it to last BAT, it's kinda crazy.

Blue Ninja · Post #1057 » by **Blue Ninja** » Sun Sep 2, 2012 2:44 pm

br7knicks wrote:
LJ4pointplay wrote:Commandment #1 of B-A-T: Thou shall not speak afoul of kneega

without him, we'd still be in round 3

Exactly lol. Some people are just ungrateful losers.

Post #1058 » by **moocow007** » Sun Sep 2, 2012 2:45 pm

Grinditout wrote:Anybody else feel that 2012 draftees made a whole lot of other players drop so much. Just comparing it to last BAT, it's kinda crazy.

Absolutely.

CoolKids · Post #1059 » by **CoolKids** » Sun Sep 2, 2012 2:46 pm

boozer is available

br7knicks · Post #1060 » by **br7knicks** » Sun Sep 2, 2012 2:47 pm

Grinditout wrote:Anybody else feel that 2012 draftees made a whole lot of other players drop so much. Just comparing it to last BAT, it's kinda crazy.

on the orlando board, so many of the 2012 draftees were going left and right, which made it SO easy. everyone was all, "build for future" gung ho, so my team, despite not making my first 2 picks on time, was one of the better ones.

our board is better with not going after them, but it has helped a bunch of players drop