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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1041 » by Greenie » Sun Jul 6, 2014 9:57 pm

BrandonMarshall wrote:After a long phone conversation with Carmelo Anthony, I can confidently say he will not be re-signing with the New York Knicks. It seems as though the vast array of sushi dishes, coupled with the fact that he feels his best color is yellow have drawn him to Los Angeles. More info coming soon.

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Post#1042 » by Bob Ross » Sun Jul 6, 2014 9:57 pm

bah this pick up game stuff. I'd bet anything that they all live over there and play pick up games all summer together at UCLA. Means nothing. Probably. I hope.
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Post#1043 » by ibraheim718 » Sun Jul 6, 2014 9:58 pm

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#Lakers Kobe Bryant spotted in pick up game with Carmelo Anthony and Kevin Love at UCLA. Kobe looking like he bought new legs.

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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1044 » by AmazingJason » Sun Jul 6, 2014 9:58 pm

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a bad deal is offering from the jump by a large margin over everyone else in any business. deal no matter who it is. And yeah for the record I dont believe melo is worth 129 mil on the court, and durability has always been my reason why. too much money for a player whose been injured every year they've been here, and way too inefficient to command such dollar when the lights are brightest.

He's a #1 if the goal isnt to win at the highest level.....#2 if it is.



You said "market'. 129 isnt his market, the lakers offer isnt his market either, neither is the bulls.

Notice how three different teams offered three different things. Not market, CBA dictates what they can.



Sure they could, they wont because they dont want a gutted team just to get Melo. but they certainly could if they wanted to.


Thats all LA could do, but it isnt "market" as you want it to be believed.

If a team truly wanted a legit shot for Melo, they'd make the room....plain and simple. The well known destination (Bulls) isnt even doing it, and there's no indication they would even if he picked them.

Still offering your feelings up as fact. That don't work on me, nor will it ever....my personal FACT!

The only thing we have money wise over other teams is that extra year...FACTS!
The starting salary for both us and the Lakers are in fact the same....again FACTS!

Thug get out your feelings about Melo as a player. You don't know what's going on behind the scenes. How do you know what Chicago is trying to move? You don't. Your opinion is non-valid on that issue....once again FACTS!

Two teams who have the money to do so, have offered Carmelo Anthony the Max they are allowed to. FACTS!

Everything else is how you feel about the situation...FACT#



You kniw what else is fact that no team that doesn't have atleast ine star is after him, Houston has Harden Dwight and bunch of nice role players like Parson, Chicago has Rose, Noah and Taj among other's and LA has Kobe and yes I know he's in his mid 30s but it's stil Kobe.

We are the only team that thinks Melo is worth 129 mil with a bum shoulder and 30 years old, kind of says a lothuh? You can be a Melo fan all you want me I prefer to be a Knick fan and as a Knick fan I dont see anything about Melo that would make me believe he's worth that money, not his exits in the first round in Denver nor his here and after that Laker game where our playoffs were depending on it and he choked big just like he did against the Pacers in the pkayoffs abd them blamed his shoulder and then a week later went fishing for sharks with that same bum shoulder and the idiot takes a pic of it lol


Melo is probably one of the unlikeable players in Knicks history. He has so many flaws: lack of leadership ability, poor decision-making, unwilling passer, takes plays off on defense, me-first mentality. But he has elite scoring skills. And if you're able to surround him with the right coach, the right system, the right role players, and hope he falls in line, you can build a contender...it's just difficult with little margin for error. The bottom line is I'd rather have the 15-20% chance that Melo buys in and Phil does a good job around him than to be bad for the next 5 years.
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1045 » by Bob Ross » Sun Jul 6, 2014 10:00 pm

And as for the report that Lakers offered Melo basically his pick of coach and players going forward, that's a bad move imo. Remember all the guys Melo has wanted us to draft? Selby anyone? Let the players play and leave the GMing to the pros.
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1046 » by nyjetsknicks420 » Sun Jul 6, 2014 10:00 pm

AmazingJason wrote:
cubanKnick wrote:
greenhughes wrote:Still offering your feelings up as fact. That don't work on me, nor will it ever....my personal FACT!

The only thing we have money wise over other teams is that extra year...FACTS!
The starting salary for both us and the Lakers are in fact the same....again FACTS!

Thug get out your feelings about Melo as a player. You don't know what's going on behind the scenes. How do you know what Chicago is trying to move? You don't. Your opinion is non-valid on that issue....once again FACTS!

Two teams who have the money to do so, have offered Carmelo Anthony the Max they are allowed to. FACTS!

Everything else is how you feel about the situation...FACT#



You kniw what else is fact that no team that doesn't have atleast ine star is after him, Houston has Harden Dwight and bunch of nice role players like Parson, Chicago has Rose, Noah and Taj among other's and LA has Kobe and yes I know he's in his mid 30s but it's stil Kobe.

We are the only team that thinks Melo is worth 129 mil with a bum shoulder and 30 years old, kind of says a lothuh? You can be a Melo fan all you want me I prefer to be a Knick fan and as a Knick fan I dont see anything about Melo that would make me believe he's worth that money, not his exits in the first round in Denver nor his here and after that Laker game where our playoffs were depending on it and he choked big just like he did against the Pacers in the pkayoffs abd them blamed his shoulder and then a week later went fishing for sharks with that same bum shoulder and the idiot takes a pic of it lol


Melo is probably one of the unlikeable players in Knicks history. He has so many flaws: lack of leadership ability, poor decision-making, unwilling passer, takes plays off on defense, me-first mentality. But he has elite scoring skills. And if you're able to surround him with the right coach, the right system, the right role players, and hope he falls in line, you can build a contender...it's just difficult with little margin for error. The bottom line is I'd rather have the 15-20% chance that Melo buys in and Phil does a good job around him than to be bad for the next 5 years.


If I played with all those bums I would be an unwilling passer also
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1047 » by cubanKnick » Sun Jul 6, 2014 10:00 pm

greenhughes wrote:
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greenhughes wrote:Your thoughts on the free market are not valid when there was in fact a team that offered the max that they were allowed to within the rules of the CBA. That is in fact helping set market value. You can't get around that...FACT!


Actually one team I repeat one team offerd max, Dallas didn't we know this and Chicago offered what 15 to 16 mil that to me isnt setting hus value at 129 mil, but Melo and his agent's love fans like you who think Melo is worth more then gold problem is the guy hasnt won jack not in Denver or here, but I guess it was the coaches fault and his teammates
You brought up my thoughts, I didnt raise any until you posted such.

Do you understand what market means? 4 teams melo visited.....2 of the four didnt offer the max, when they knew all year they were teams we would consider.

50% isnt market....sorry.


It helps set it though....unfortunate for you.
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1048 » by Thugger HBC » Sun Jul 6, 2014 10:02 pm

greenhughes wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:
greenhughes wrote:Your thoughts on the free market are not valid when there was in fact a team that offered the max that they were allowed to within the rules of the CBA. That is in fact helping set market value. You can't get around that...FACT!

You brought up my thoughts, I didnt raise any until you posted such.

Do you understand what market means? 4 teams melo visited.....2 of the four didnt offer the max, when they knew all year they were teams we would consider.

50% isnt market....sorry.


It helps set it though....unfortunate for you.

Nope. but I've been of contention he'd take his money anyway, because that's all he's cared about previously.

Only time will tell if that isnt true. Not really unfortunate for me, Phil has my trust regardless, as long as he does what he said...build a team that can compete ate at the highest level.
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1049 » by BodyCount » Sun Jul 6, 2014 10:02 pm

cubanKnick wrote:
greenhughes wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:
a bad deal is offering from the jump by a large margin over everyone else in any business. deal no matter who it is. And yeah for the record I dont believe melo is worth 129 mil on the court, and durability has always been my reason why. too much money for a player whose been injured every year they've been here, and way too inefficient to command such dollar when the lights are brightest.

He's a #1 if the goal isnt to win at the highest level.....#2 if it is.



You said "market'. 129 isnt his market, the lakers offer isnt his market either, neither is the bulls.

Notice how three different teams offered three different things. Not market, CBA dictates what they can.



Sure they could, they wont because they dont want a gutted team just to get Melo. but they certainly could if they wanted to.


Thats all LA could do, but it isnt "market" as you want it to be believed.

If a team truly wanted a legit shot for Melo, they'd make the room....plain and simple. The well known destination (Bulls) isnt even doing it, and there's no indication they would even if he picked them.

Still offering your feelings up as fact. That don't work on me, nor will it ever....my personal FACT!

The only thing we have money wise over other teams is that extra year...FACTS!
The starting salary for both us and the Lakers are in fact the same....again FACTS!

Thug get out your feelings about Melo as a player. You don't know what's going on behind the scenes. How do you know what Chicago is trying to move? You don't. Your opinion is non-valid on that issue....once again FACTS!

Two teams who have the money to do so, have offered Carmelo Anthony the Max they are allowed to. FACTS!

Everything else is how you feel about the situation...FACT#



You kniw what else is fact that no team that doesn't have atleast ine star is after him, Houston has Harden Dwight and bunch of nice role players like Parson, Chicago has Rose, Noah and Taj among other's and LA has Kobe and yes I know he's in his mid 30s but it's stil Kobe.

We are the only team that thinks Melo is worth 129 mil with a bum shoulder and 30 years old, kind of says a lothuh? You can be a Melo fan all you want me I prefer to be a Knick fan and as a Knick fan I dont see anything about Melo that would make me believe he's worth that money, not his exits in the first round in Denver nor his here and after that Laker game where our playoffs were depending on it and he choked big just like he did against the Pacers in the pkayoffs abd them blamed his shoulder and then a week later went fishing for sharks with that same bum shoulder and the idiot takes a pic of it lol


great post. I feel the same way.
What I think we should do asap is try to get our 2016 pick back. Trading whoever for it. And that even before melo makes his decision. Cause if he signs somewhere else we're tanking. And we just might tank 2016 too.
But even if we're complete garbage for 2 years, I'm still rather having 2 trashy seasons, with cap flexibility then have that risky 5 year contract. Even if we suck for 2 seasons and we pick good and add some young free agents, we're just going up from there, while if we decide there's no way we can make it work with melo, it might become imposible to move him, like stoudamire. I don't know. I can't predict future. No one can. All I know the more flexibility you have regarding assets, the easier it's to be competitive. I am seriously hoping that we might get leonard at some point! When duncan, ginobili and parker retire, pop might go as well and he just might get tempted to go somewhere else :lol:
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Post#1050 » by god shammgod » Sun Jul 6, 2014 10:02 pm

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 57s

Everyone is technically still alive ... though there is a rising sense around the league that Melo likely to choose between Knicks & Lakers


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As of 6 PM EST Sunday, ESPN sources say NONE of Melo's suitors (Rockets, Bulls, Mavs or Lakers) have been told they are out of contention
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Post#1051 » by Mr Rabbit » Sun Jul 6, 2014 10:02 pm

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Post#1052 » by delvec19 » Sun Jul 6, 2014 10:03 pm

god shammgod wrote:Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 57s

Everyone is technically still alive ... though there is a rising sense around the league that Melo likely to choose between Knicks & Lakers


Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 2m

As of 6 PM EST Sunday, ESPN sources say NONE of Melo's suitors (Rockets, Bulls, Mavs or Lakers) have been told they are out of contention


Nothing New. :banghead:
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Post#1053 » by Bob Ross » Sun Jul 6, 2014 10:03 pm

I don't know about this unwilling passer stuff. The start of every season he seems to get a very willing passer. Then as the season moves on and the ENTIRE damn team his a 2 month wall, he has to take over. He was always trying to feed our "scorers". He fed STAT all the time.
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Post#1054 » by Thugger HBC » Sun Jul 6, 2014 10:04 pm

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Play with the Magic Tobias Harris is lights out

I actually did the other day..he was nice had like 26 with him :lol:


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Post#1056 » by Rasho Brezec » Sun Jul 6, 2014 10:04 pm

If you're planning on pissing off New York, then your best move would be to stay out of New York ...
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Post#1057 » by cubanKnick » Sun Jul 6, 2014 10:06 pm

AmazingJason wrote:
cubanKnick wrote:
greenhughes wrote:Still offering your feelings up as fact. That don't work on me, nor will it ever....my personal FACT!

The only thing we have money wise over other teams is that extra year...FACTS!
The starting salary for both us and the Lakers are in fact the same....again FACTS!

Thug get out your feelings about Melo as a player. You don't know what's going on behind the scenes. How do you know what Chicago is trying to move? You don't. Your opinion is non-valid on that issue....once again FACTS!

Two teams who have the money to do so, have offered Carmelo Anthony the Max they are allowed to. FACTS!

Everything else is how you feel about the situation...FACT#



You kniw what else is fact that no team that doesn't have atleast ine star is after him, Houston has Harden Dwight and bunch of nice role players like Parson, Chicago has Rose, Noah and Taj among other's and LA has Kobe and yes I know he's in his mid 30s but it's stil Kobe.

We are the only team that thinks Melo is worth 129 mil with a bum shoulder and 30 years old, kind of says a lothuh? You can be a Melo fan all you want me I prefer to be a Knick fan and as a Knick fan I dont see anything about Melo that would make me believe he's worth that money, not his exits in the first round in Denver nor his here and after that Laker game where our playoffs were depending on it and he choked big just like he did against the Pacers in the pkayoffs abd them blamed his shoulder and then a week later went fishing for sharks with that same bum shoulder and the idiot takes a pic of it lol


Melo is probably one of the unlikeable players in Knicks history. He has so many flaws: lack of leadership ability, poor decision-making, unwilling passer, takes plays off on defense, me-first mentality. But he has elite scoring skills. And if you're able to surround him with the right coach, the right system, the right role players, and hope he falls in line, you can build a contender...it's just difficult with little margin for error. The bottom line is I'd rather have the 15-20% chance that Melo buys in and Phil does a good job around him than to be bad for the next 5 years.
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Post#1058 » by Greenie » Sun Jul 6, 2014 10:06 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:
greenhughes wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:You brought up my thoughts, I didnt raise any until you posted such.

Do you understand what market means? 4 teams melo visited.....2 of the four didnt offer the max, when they knew all year they were teams we would consider.

50% isnt market....sorry.


It helps set it though....unfortunate for you.

Nope. but I've been of contention he'd take his money anyway, because that's all he's cared about previously.

Only time will tell if that isnt true. Not really unfortunate for me, Phil has my trust regardless, as long as he does what he said...build a team that can compete ate at the highest level.

happy you backed off :D :kiss
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Post#1059 » by R-DAWG » Sun Jul 6, 2014 10:06 pm

AmazingJason wrote:
cubanKnick wrote:
greenhughes wrote:Still offering your feelings up as fact. That don't work on me, nor will it ever....my personal FACT!

The only thing we have money wise over other teams is that extra year...FACTS!
The starting salary for both us and the Lakers are in fact the same....again FACTS!

Thug get out your feelings about Melo as a player. You don't know what's going on behind the scenes. How do you know what Chicago is trying to move? You don't. Your opinion is non-valid on that issue....once again FACTS!

Two teams who have the money to do so, have offered Carmelo Anthony the Max they are allowed to. FACTS!

Everything else is how you feel about the situation...FACT#



You kniw what else is fact that no team that doesn't have atleast ine star is after him, Houston has Harden Dwight and bunch of nice role players like Parson, Chicago has Rose, Noah and Taj among other's and LA has Kobe and yes I know he's in his mid 30s but it's stil Kobe.

We are the only team that thinks Melo is worth 129 mil with a bum shoulder and 30 years old, kind of says a lothuh? You can be a Melo fan all you want me I prefer to be a Knick fan and as a Knick fan I dont see anything about Melo that would make me believe he's worth that money, not his exits in the first round in Denver nor his here and after that Laker game where our playoffs were depending on it and he choked big just like he did against the Pacers in the pkayoffs abd them blamed his shoulder and then a week later went fishing for sharks with that same bum shoulder and the idiot takes a pic of it lol


Melo is probably one of the unlikeable players in Knicks history. He has so many flaws: lack of leadership ability, poor decision-making, unwilling passer, takes plays off on defense, me-first mentality. But he has elite scoring skills. And if you're able to surround him with the right coach, the right system, the right role players, and hope he falls in line, you can build a contender...it's just difficult with little margin for error. The bottom line is I'd rather have the 15-20% chance that Melo buys in and Phil does a good job around him than to be bad for the next 5 years.


Wow, couldn't have said it better myself. For all Melo's flaws he's still one of the best in the game today. Its's too bad management has put the Knicks in such a poor position with poor decisions (Jeffries trade, letting Lee walk for nothing, the domino effets of bringing in Tyson Chandler, Bargnani trade, ect) that it's not surprising that Carmelo doesn't want to risk it. Kerr ultimatley choose Golden State after they reminded him of Jim Dolan's history. Let's hope the Lakers didn't do the same and that's the reason they jumped back in the race/

I'm not going to lie, i'm a little nervous that Melo walks away to the Lakers and we lose him for nothing. Even if the Bulls forced you to take back Boozer adding Butler and Mirotic and a couple of future picks would ease the pain pretty easily. In fact, getting a package of young players and picks in return for Melo is my best case scenario. Losing him for nothing is a disaster.
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Post#1060 » by nyjetsknicks420 » Sun Jul 6, 2014 10:06 pm

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CoolKids wrote:I actually did the other day..he was nice had like 26 with him :lol:


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which one cause I can not get Trey's shot down at all its so slow and always gets blocked

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