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HarthorneWingo wrote:CJackson wrote:
That's a live stream Wingo, so whatever you wanted to share is not possible.
You could summarize the point however
You can watch it now if you want. I'm about to head out the door. Going out on a friend's boat to watch the rocket launch from Virginia at 7:30. I'll summarize later tonight.
CJackson wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:CJackson wrote:
That's a live stream Wingo, so whatever you wanted to share is not possible.
You could summarize the point however
You can watch it now if you want. I'm about to head out the door. Going out on a friend's boat to watch the rocket launch from Virginia at 7:30. I'll summarize later tonight.
OK, enjoy the launch. Will read your summary rather than watch
HarthorneWingo wrote:CJackson wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:
You can watch it now if you want. I'm about to head out the door. Going out on a friend's boat to watch the rocket launch from Virginia at 7:30. I'll summarize later tonight.
OK, enjoy the launch. Will read your summary rather than watch
You should watch. It's a very entertaining program. I'd be interested in what you thought about it. But I'll post later.
duetta wrote:knicks85 wrote:Maybe making education affordable is a round about way of addressing it?
That's certainly one part of the solution - although there are many more pieces that need to be fixed as well.
When I graduated from a private Jesuit college in 1978, my final year tuition was $2,800. Today a full year tuition at that same university is $43,000. That's like 14x higher. Now, have have entry-level salaries increased 14x? I don't think so. It's madness - and it's nationwide. And yet adjunct professors are still being paid poorly enough to collect food stamps. When you consider how many hours they have to put in outside of teaching (grading papers, seeing students, etc.), many are barely making minimum wage. And we're talking people with Masters and PhDs. Someone needs to explain this scam to me, because it's evidently a terrific business to make money in (so long as your're not either a student or an adjunct professor)!
Drumpf's plan is to dramatically slash corporate rates across the board, as well as personal taxes - which does nothing whatsoever to address the wage differential between American and emerging market Asian workers. I'm all for lowering corporate taxes on authentically American activity, in order to address that wage differential - but that's not what he's advocating. Personally, I think he just pulled that tax plan out of his backside in order to get the Republican establishment on board with his scam. But his scam absolutely, positively does not address the dynamics that are driving job loss in America.
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BKlutch wrote:duetta wrote:knicks85 wrote:Maybe making education affordable is a round about way of addressing it?
That's certainly one part of the solution - although there are many more pieces that need to be fixed as well.
When I graduated from a private Jesuit college in 1978, my final year tuition was $2,800. Today a full year tuition at that same university is $43,000. That's like 14x higher. Now, have have entry-level salaries increased 14x? I don't think so. It's madness - and it's nationwide. And yet adjunct professors are still being paid poorly enough to collect food stamps. When you consider how many hours they have to put in outside of teaching (grading papers, seeing students, etc.), many are barely making minimum wage. And we're talking people with Masters and PhDs. Someone needs to explain this scam to me, because it's evidently a terrific business to make money in (so long as your're not either a student or an adjunct professor)!
Drumpf's plan is to dramatically slash corporate rates across the board, as well as personal taxes - which does nothing whatsoever to address the wage differential between American and emerging market Asian workers. I'm all for lowering corporate taxes on authentically American activity, in order to address that wage differential - but that's not what he's advocating. Personally, I think he just pulled that tax plan out of his backside in order to get the Republican establishment on board with his scam. But his scam absolutely, positively does not address the dynamics that are driving job loss in America.
Did you graduate from Fordham? hehe That's their cost now.
ClydeRules wrote:N8isScofield wrote:The only disappointing part of them cutting of Assange's internet access is that it's not enough. What they should do is smoke the little bastard out of the embassy so he can stand trial for the rape he committed that lead to him fleeing to that embassy. I would even be willing to do the humanitarian thing and let him share a cell with Trump once one of the allegations against him sticks.
How do you feel about the rape D Rose committed?
BKlutch wrote:Did you graduate from Fordham? hehe That's their cost now.
KnicksGod wrote:CJackson wrote:KnicksGod wrote:She is going to do it but with the depths this has fallen to, Hillary could easily say she is not going to do the debate. It'd be a mark of refusal to accept that our public conversation should sink so low. She could at least just say she's not going to respond to crazy or abusive comments from him, and focus almost entirely on what she will do as president, now that it's clear she will be.
Just talk about your agenda and your vision. Make like he's not there, because he's basically not, except for an empty can making a lot of noise.
Nah. Just show up. Don't say anything about terms and conditions. That's his racket. She needs to keep her nose out of that nonsense and let him continue to unravel.
Yeah I guess so. But one of the things people will look for from her as president is true leadership. That means fewer games and calculations, and more stands for the sake of the rightness or wrongness of the thing you're confronted with. Understandable not to mess with anything now. I wouldn't recommend it either. But in a hypothetical, she could simply say "I won't dignify this anymore" and it would make a lot of sense.
You're right that it would play into his hands. But in theory, who cares. Caring too much about politics is what has gotten us here -- GOP placated these bad elements for far too long.
N8isScofield wrote:ClydeRules wrote:N8isScofield wrote:The only disappointing part of them cutting of Assange's internet access is that it's not enough. What they should do is smoke the little bastard out of the embassy so he can stand trial for the rape he committed that lead to him fleeing to that embassy. I would even be willing to do the humanitarian thing and let him share a cell with Trump once one of the allegations against him sticks.
How do you feel about the rape D Rose committed?
I don't know that Derrick Rose committed a rape. He's in the process of a CIVIL trial and there's plenty of evidence to suggest that whatever went on while not being my cup of tea was consented to. Even when the allegations came out and he was potentially facing criminal charges, he didn't run. There was no white bronco moment. When you're accused of rape and you decide to run into an embassy rather than face the charges levied against you that tells me that you're guilty. Nice try though. Ignore list for you too.
KnicksGod wrote:Depressing election for many but here are some reasons the glass is half full:
1) Trump has tepid or token support among the Republican leadership, with few if any meaningful exceptions.
2) He fell apart under scrutiny, his past caught up with him -- the rigors of a democratic election season ultimately produced their intended effect.
3) He's not a young man.
4) He's deeply undisciplined and myopic at best; somewhat or very self-destructive is far from an unfair assessment. Just as reasonable to think he'll spend the next four years rationalizing his loss in ever more exotic ways as it is to expect a tightly focused shadow government to emerge. With a smaller megaphone, why would he suddenly start executing better than he has?
5) Americans, and maybe especially Republicans, typically avert their eyes from election losers.
6) As Ross Douthat argues, there are instructive lessons in Trumpism; but it's not like the Ryan vision is fundamentally incompatible with small-business, middle-class capitalism. Yes there is a conflict to be confronted on an approach to entitlements but assuming these would prove difficult/impossible to dramatically reform by legislation anyway, regardless of Trump, this could simply be the acceleration of an inevitable political reckoning. Tacking toward the middle with incremental steps forward for the conservative cause seems like the best way to inoculate the party and the right against Trumpism, and there's no shame in winning.
7) Already R leaders are disputing his rigging claim. This will grow into a unified chorus of dismissal on Nov. 9.
8) It's easy to get caught up in the hysteria of so many shameful moments, but the post-mortem is very likely to consider a more balanced survey: A TV-trained carnival act used celebrity and name recognition to gain a first-mover advantage that hardened as his oppo-research-less rivals (and their voters) were frozen in disbelief. Then he scorched earth to keep it.
9) More than a particular flaw of American democracy, it's a flaw of the human life and condition that many are not paying nearly as close attention to daily politics as the ones who are glued to it (among whom the outrage seems greatest). So name recognition, the superficial tough guy routine and, yes, very easy answers to very hard problems, are of course going to hold outsized influence. In the final analysis, if Trump were a less objectionable person and/or a more capable actor and/or could pick his spots better to shift between substance and attack (he’s done a piss poor job of this in the general) and/or really believed more in the things he spouts AND the country was viewed by most to be in fairly dire straits, then that hypothetical Trump could rise to the presidency and threaten the system itself. We might as well simply accept that any democracy is still dependent on a bit of good fortune and the more or less good intentions of its principal players. And while this point is not wholly reassuring, it is more so when you consider that there is at least some strong relationship between these ‘moderate democracy’ and ‘not in dire straits’ things.
10) In the end, he was the first choice of about 33% of the primary voters in a party with about 39% of total registered voters. Many others came aboard for the feel-good Hillary bashing. No she's not the bogeywoman. She's a flawed but hardworking public servant who cares about something other than herself, and will scrub the details in her decision-making process and the challenges facing the nation. That could include standing up to the jobs of fixing Syria, Obamacare, etc.
duetta wrote:BKlutch wrote:Did you graduate from Fordham? hehe That's their cost now.
Yep. Class of '78.
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How do you feel about the rape D Rose committed?
I don't know that Derrick Rose committed a rape. He's in the process of a CIVIL trial and there's plenty of evidence to suggest that whatever went on while not being my cup of tea was consented to. Even when the allegations came out and he was potentially facing criminal charges, he didn't run. There was no white bronco moment. When you're accused of rape and you decide to run into an embassy rather than face the charges levied against you that tells me that you're guilty. Nice try though. Ignore list for you too.
So Rose is presumed innocent by you while Assange is assumed guilty. Interesting!
Capn'O wrote:I wonder what Paul Reed's feelings are about metal bats.
ClydeRules wrote:N8isScofield wrote:ClydeRules wrote:
How do you feel about the rape D Rose committed?
I don't know that Derrick Rose committed a rape. He's in the process of a CIVIL trial and there's plenty of evidence to suggest that whatever went on while not being my cup of tea was consented to. Even when the allegations came out and he was potentially facing criminal charges, he didn't run. There was no white bronco moment. When you're accused of rape and you decide to run into an embassy rather than face the charges levied against you that tells me that you're guilty. Nice try though. Ignore list for you too.
So Rose is presumed innocent by you while Assange is assumed guilty. Interesting!
Capn'O wrote:I wonder what Paul Reed's feelings are about metal bats.
KnicksGod wrote:I notice the people who don't like Trump use mostly the things that come out of his foolhardy and dishonest mouth ... and the people who don't like Hillary often rely on weird blanket statements like "The Clintons ..." or some other black helicopter logic.
I don't know but I have to at least wonder if a lot of Truthers like Trump.
Capn'O wrote:I wonder what Paul Reed's feelings are about metal bats.
knicks85 wrote:what is the rationale for Mcain to openly admit they will oppose any Supreme Court apoointments..arent they just reinvigorating the democratic base..
BKlutch wrote:duetta wrote:BKlutch wrote:Did you graduate from Fordham? hehe That's their cost now.
Yep. Class of '78.
Nice. My son just started there. He's going to owe a fortune when he graduates, but I love that school.