Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread

[8516knicks]

‘Stubborn’ Collin Sexton poses potential Knicks risk

https://nypost.com/2021/07/26/stubborn-collin-sexton-poses-potential-knicks-risk/

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[8516knicks]

Shiny objects guys......SHINY OBJECTS.

The only objects Scott Perry thinks are shiny are Noah Vonleh, Emmanuel Mudiay and Mario Herzonja. And the shiniest of them all, Elfrid Payton.

How bout some D.Derozan? I actually think he's underrated on here by many and think if the guy could just shoot the 3 ball at a 35-37% rate that he'd be great for us.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10008761-demar-derozan-rumors-lakers-clippers-knicks-bulls-interested-spurs-not-ruled-out

I'd take DeRozan if cheap enough on a one or two year deal if we could also get a halfway decent point guard affordably (Cam payne; Reggie Jackson) that would maybe boost us to 2nd round while we await some big FA next year??? Add a decent shooting forward by draft or vet, and we might move on to the next playoff round. We're unlikely to go higher than that, anyway, with anyone we could get this year. And if Randle keeps solid, RJ and IQ improve and DeRozan can still shoot inside the arc, we might lure a big FA if we make good showing in 2nd round?

[Jimmit79]

How disappointed I’ll be if Lonzo is our biggest acquisition..

Bro you might jump of bk bridge if elf is the biggest offseason signing lol.

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[RHODEY]

How disappointed I’ll be if Lonzo is our biggest acquisition..

Why? A 23 yr old with near elite playmaking, improved offensive game with good defense. I'd rather this than rush into a dumb trade that would weaken our team.

[DaGawd]

How disappointed I’ll be if Lonzo is our biggest acquisition..

Why? A 23 yr old with near elite playmaking, improved offensive game with good defense. I'd rather this than rush into a dumb trade that would weaken our team.

He’s not an elite playmaker tho.. the Pelicans had Zion running the point smh

[Adelheid]

Knicks prominent signing in the end of offseason would be the Vildozer
Get used to the idea; at least you wont feel hurt when it does happen
Not saying that this new regime is utter crap and they cant get things done, just to be clear
Of course, it would be great if something positive comes up

[BBALLER4FR]

Not a huge fan of Lonzo Ball one bit, but Lonzo or paying a 70 yr old CP3 a quarter of a billion for a year (relatively speaking)? Easy choice.

[SelbyCobra]

Don't know how believable, but Babcock has a blue check and writes on basketball for a living. If it is true, Troy Weaver should be fired immediately...

https://www.basketballnews.com/stories/qa-2021-nba-draft-intel-with-lead-draft-analyst-matt-babcock-rumors-offseason

Rumor has it that the Thunder offered the No. 6 pick and Shai Gilgeous-Alexander in exchange for No. 1 -- the Pistons declined.

[HarthorneWingo]

What's seems clear is that no one knows what the team is planning. I just hope that they do. We'll find out more on Thursday.

I just hope that we're pleasantly surprised with whatever they pull off. It's almost time to put up or shut up with some of the assets the team has. These assets all have a nearing expiration date. I hope they're used wisely and flexibility is a continuing theme if they can't hit whatever homeruns they are planning. Whatever they do, I just hope they don't paint themselves in a corner.

Thibs says he likes this guy. I never heard of him before.

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[RHODEY]

How disappointed I’ll be if Lonzo is our biggest acquisition..

Why? A 23 yr old with near elite playmaking, improved offensive game with good defense. I'd rather this than rush into a dumb trade that would weaken our team.

He’s not an elite playmaker tho.. the Pelicans had Zion running the point smh

He's very good when it comes to playmaking...not sure wjy you dont see this.

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[Anotha Knicks fan]

What's seems clear is that no one knows what the team is planning. I just hope that they do. We'll find out more on Thursday.

I just hope that we're pleasantly surprised with whatever they pull off. It's almost time to put up or shut up with some of the assets the team has. These assets all have a nearing expiration date. I hope they're used wisely and flexibility is a continuing theme if they can't hit whatever homeruns they are planning. Whatever they do, I just hope they don't paint themselves in a corner.

Thibs says he likes this guy. I never heard of him before.

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Don't know much about college players in general, but assuming skills trainer is spot on with his analysis, and the purported interest from Thibs, would you say Cam Thomas could maybe replace IQs production? What would you say Cam would bring vs what IQ brings?

On the other hand, maybe this kind of shows the kind of players he's looking for, fit be damned? Or maybe that's who they figure will be available based on where we're projected to pick?

[aggo]

‘Stubborn’ Collin Sexton poses potential Knicks risk

https://nypost.com/2021/07/26/stubborn-collin-sexton-poses-potential-knicks-risk/

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“The question coming out his rookie year: was he willing to accept coaching?” the personnel director said. “That we don’t yet have the answer to. There was a little bristling Beilein. [Sexton] will question things. Frankly, he’s stubborn.’’


Should the Knicks trade for Sexton? Post a comment.
Beilein is no Thibodeau.

“Thibs might be exactly what he needs,’’ the personnel man said. “I feel like Thibodeau would respect his tenacity and work ethic in return. Collin would do what Thibs would ask of him. It’s a pretty good match. Both are so driven and Thibs would respect the hard-work part, how hard he plays. The only thing I’d caution is giving the guy the key to the franchise to run the team. But Derrick wasn’t a pass-first guy either. It’s not the worst comparison.’’

figure it out.

he needs a hard ass coach.

21 + obi + knox is nothing if we can reined in by thibs who will hard ass coach him.

its a tryout for a max contract and the risk:reward is worth it so long as we dont give up more 19 and 21 with obi / knox.

[Adelheid]

If the cavs decide to play Sexton out in his final rookie year and he plays the same way, aint that going to lower his trade value if they decide to trade him?

[aggo]

If the cavs decide to play Sexton out in his final rookie year and he plays the same way, aint that going to lower his trade value if they decide to trade him?

here's what I think

please put a tinfoil hat on with me


GMs sometimes are scared to lose their job. It's hard to trade Sexton because he's still productive. So the status quo of just keeping him is really really hard to beat.

Plus imagine they trade him, get something **** like Obi + 21 in return, and the moment Sexton plays next to a legit #1 or #2 he gets his head screwed on right and becomes a good teammate or accepts coaching.

Or maybe (because his offensive #s have improved every single year) he just keeps improving and becomes Donovan Mitchell.

those scenarios get u fired as a GM basically. The owner has to go in and say "no im not giving him a max contract" and that's the only way the GM can deal him without any fear.

[Adelheid]

If the cavs decide to play Sexton out in his final rookie year and he plays the same way, aint that going to lower his trade value if they decide to trade him?

here's what I think

please put a tinfoil hat on with me


GMs sometimes are scared to lose their job. It's hard to trade Sexton because he's still productive. So the status quo of just keeping him is really really hard to beat.

Plus imagine they trade him, get something **** like Obi + 21 in return, and the moment Sexton plays next to a legit #1 or #2 he gets his head screwed on right and becomes a good teammate or accepts coaching.

Or maybe (because his offensive #s have improved every single year) he just keeps improving and becomes Donovan Mitchell.

those scenarios get u fired as a GM basically. The owner has to go in and say "no im not giving him a max contract" and that's the only way the GM can deal him without any fear.

Alrighty I got yout point. The last sentence does make sense. Still, the devaluation on the final year trade is something real serious because Collin can just send word that he aint signing if the destination team isnt what he specified.

[Marty McFly]

If the cavs decide to play Sexton out in his final rookie year and he plays the same way, aint that going to lower his trade value if they decide to trade him?

here's what I think

please put a tinfoil hat on with me


GMs sometimes are scared to lose their job. It's hard to trade Sexton because he's still productive. So the status quo of just keeping him is really really hard to beat.

Plus imagine they trade him, get something **** like Obi + 21 in return, and the moment Sexton plays next to a legit #1 or #2 he gets his head screwed on right and becomes a good teammate or accepts coaching.

Or maybe (because his offensive #s have improved every single year) he just keeps improving and becomes Donovan Mitchell.

those scenarios get u fired as a GM basically. The owner has to go in and say "no im not giving him a max contract" and that's the only way the GM can deal him without any fear.

Sexton isn't as big is nor is he the athlete that DMitch is.

[8516knicks]

If the cavs decide to play Sexton out in his final rookie year and he plays the same way, aint that going to lower his trade value if they decide to trade him?

here's what I think

please put a tinfoil hat on with me


GMs sometimes are scared to lose their job. It's hard to trade Sexton because he's still productive. So the status quo of just keeping him is really really hard to beat.

Plus imagine they trade him, get something **** like Obi + 21 in return, and the moment Sexton plays next to a legit #1 or #2 he gets his head screwed on right and becomes a good teammate or accepts coaching.

Or maybe (because his offensive #s have improved every single year) he just keeps improving and becomes Donovan Mitchell.

those scenarios get u fired as a GM basically. The owner has to go in and say "no im not giving him a max contract" and that's the only way the GM can deal him without any fear.

Alrighty I got yout point. The last sentence does make sense. Still, the devaluation on the final year trade is something real serious because Collin can just send word that he aint signing if the destination team isnt what he specified.

Maybe it's me, but I can't help keep feeling Sexton is the new Dion Waiters (or whoever that guard was Miami gave a big contract to a few years back and has done s**t since.) Even his boosters think he's more a 6man microwave scorer - and we have IQ already.

[HarthorneWingo]

I just hope that we're pleasantly surprised with whatever they pull off. It's almost time to put up or shut up with some of the assets the team has. These assets all have a nearing expiration date. I hope they're used wisely and flexibility is a continuing theme if they can't hit whatever homeruns they are planning. Whatever they do, I just hope they don't paint themselves in a corner.

Thibs says he likes this guy. I never heard of him before.

Watch on YouTube

Don't know much about college players in general, but assuming skills trainer is spot on with his analysis, and the purported interest from Thibs, would you say Cam Thomas could maybe replace IQs production? What would you say Cam would bring vs what IQ brings?

On the other hand, maybe this kind of shows the kind of players he's looking for, fit be damned? Or maybe that's who they figure will be available based on where we're projected to pick?

I dunno either. Could be a smokescreen. We could get a trade. The well has dried up. There's no real intelligence coming our way to have an idea.

[Mr Loggins]

If the cavs decide to play Sexton out in his final rookie year and he plays the same way, aint that going to lower his trade value if they decide to trade him?

here's what I think

please put a tinfoil hat on with me


GMs sometimes are scared to lose their job. It's hard to trade Sexton because he's still productive. So the status quo of just keeping him is really really hard to beat.

Plus imagine they trade him, get something **** like Obi + 21 in return, and the moment Sexton plays next to a legit #1 or #2 he gets his head screwed on right and becomes a good teammate or accepts coaching.

Or maybe (because his offensive #s have improved every single year) he just keeps improving and becomes Donovan Mitchell.

those scenarios get u fired as a GM basically. The owner has to go in and say "no im not giving him a max contract" and that's the only way the GM can deal him without any fear.

The german article points a far more positive outlook of sexton than negative. It says he’s extrembly hardworking and competitive. being “a llittle stubborn” comes part and parcel of all good young players nowadays

[thebuzzardman]

What treats does The Knicks Central Planning Committee have in store for us? Eager proles are anxious to know!