Around the NBA - Conference Finals and Finals

[spree2kawhi]

Read on Twitter

kind of a good point made

if the Pacers win, it will be interesting how it impacts the NBA as a whole

if you're a 50 win team, even if you don't have home court advantage from the Semis onward, you could win a championship with the right coaching staff and roster

more pressure on GM's and Team Presidents to make good decisions in team building.

you still need all-stars (and borderline all-stars or high level players), but superstars aren't tipping the scales
Owners are going to be less likely to buy excuses

The window is open for a min... until wemby takes over.

Wemby is 7'4" and growing, its rare guys that tall have big windows of opportunity. Not wishing anything bad on him but for him sooner is way better than later.

And nobody guarantees him a winning team. He’ll always be only one of five players and we’ve seen incredible talent lose many, many basketball games. Shaq comes to mind and LeBron also needed some super teams to carry his ass and he’s lost more Finals than he’s won lol

[HEZI]

When Detroit won with Sheed, Wallace, Billups etc it was going to "change everything" but then it didn't.

Sometimes a team wins.

It’s a copy cat league. They always copy what the last champ did until the next new champ then they become the blueprint until the next new champ

All it takes is one team to do it their way then they become the blueprint

No one "blueprinted" that Detroit team.

Sometimes a team wins because they have enough talent. It could be concentrated in more players or spread out.

A good bench doesn't matter if the starting 5 isn't good enough
A great starting 5 might not matter if the bench sucks.

People always trying to create some narrative or trend. Sometimes stuff just "is"



If the Pacers win, it isn't changing anything.

Oh, maybe it'll keep teams from hiring coaches like everyone's beloved Thibs, who'd only play 8 guys all year.

That was right before the Big 3 era. Once Boston got Pierce, KG and Ray Allen it triggered LeBron to going to Miami and then we were officially in the big 3 era and everyone was focusing on putting together a super team. Until the Warriors dynasty and teams tried to copy them. Recently it became about copying the Celtics. And now here we are talking about the Pacers blueprint. It’s the same conversation every year after every new champion it becomes about using them as a blueprint for what works and what is needed to win.

[BKlutch]

RealGm Knicks forum talk showing up randomly on my twitter feed

Read on Twitter

And we're famous for Wingo being a potential murder victim! Awesome.
NYK Mentality is still a very bright, young, well developed arsehole.

[WaltFrazier]

It’s a copy cat league. They always copy what the last champ did until the next new champ then they become the blueprint until the next new champ

All it takes is one team to do it their way then they become the blueprint

No one "blueprinted" that Detroit team.

Sometimes a team wins because they have enough talent. It could be concentrated in more players or spread out.

A good bench doesn't matter if the starting 5 isn't good enough
A great starting 5 might not matter if the bench sucks.

People always trying to create some narrative or trend. Sometimes stuff just "is"



If the Pacers win, it isn't changing anything.

Oh, maybe it'll keep teams from hiring coaches like everyone's beloved Thibs, who'd only play 8 guys all year.

That was right before the Big 3 era. Once Boston got Pierce, KG and Ray Allen it triggered LeBron to going to Miami and then we were officially in the big 3 era and everyone was focusing on putting together a super team. Until the Warriors dynasty and teams tried to copy them. Recently it became about copying the Celtics. And now here we are talking about the Pacers blueprint. It’s the same conversation every year after every new champion it becomes about using them as a blueprint for what works and what is needed to win.

Has anyone actually copied the Celtics? Hard to do their 5 out, spamming threes offense unless you have a roster like they had a year ago

[Fury]

No one "blueprinted" that Detroit team.

Sometimes a team wins because they have enough talent. It could be concentrated in more players or spread out.

A good bench doesn't matter if the starting 5 isn't good enough
A great starting 5 might not matter if the bench sucks.

People always trying to create some narrative or trend. Sometimes stuff just "is"



If the Pacers win, it isn't changing anything.

Oh, maybe it'll keep teams from hiring coaches like everyone's beloved Thibs, who'd only play 8 guys all year.

That was right before the Big 3 era. Once Boston got Pierce, KG and Ray Allen it triggered LeBron to going to Miami and then we were officially in the big 3 era and everyone was focusing on putting together a super team. Until the Warriors dynasty and teams tried to copy them. Recently it became about copying the Celtics. And now here we are talking about the Pacers blueprint. It’s the same conversation every year after every new champion it becomes about using them as a blueprint for what works and what is needed to win.

Has anyone actually copied the Celtics? Hard to do their 5 out, spamming threes offense unless you have a roster like they had a year ago

We did, but we refused to start Deuce

[HEZI]

No one "blueprinted" that Detroit team.

Sometimes a team wins because they have enough talent. It could be concentrated in more players or spread out.

A good bench doesn't matter if the starting 5 isn't good enough
A great starting 5 might not matter if the bench sucks.

People always trying to create some narrative or trend. Sometimes stuff just "is"



If the Pacers win, it isn't changing anything.

Oh, maybe it'll keep teams from hiring coaches like everyone's beloved Thibs, who'd only play 8 guys all year.

That was right before the Big 3 era. Once Boston got Pierce, KG and Ray Allen it triggered LeBron to going to Miami and then we were officially in the big 3 era and everyone was focusing on putting together a super team. Until the Warriors dynasty and teams tried to copy them. Recently it became about copying the Celtics. And now here we are talking about the Pacers blueprint. It’s the same conversation every year after every new champion it becomes about using them as a blueprint for what works and what is needed to win.

Has anyone actually copied the Celtics? Hard to do their 5 out, spamming threes offense unless you have a roster like they had a year ago

Well we kind of attempted to with the way we constructed the roster but we didn’t spam 3s like they did and instead opted for a more balanced approach. In terms of style the Bulls tried to mirror them offensively but their defense was just so bad

[NiceLikeChrist]

Russ declined player option. Let’s go get him for the min

[thebuzzardman]

It’s a copy cat league. They always copy what the last champ did until the next new champ then they become the blueprint until the next new champ

All it takes is one team to do it their way then they become the blueprint

No one "blueprinted" that Detroit team.

Sometimes a team wins because they have enough talent. It could be concentrated in more players or spread out.

A good bench doesn't matter if the starting 5 isn't good enough
A great starting 5 might not matter if the bench sucks.

People always trying to create some narrative or trend. Sometimes stuff just "is"



If the Pacers win, it isn't changing anything.

Oh, maybe it'll keep teams from hiring coaches like everyone's beloved Thibs, who'd only play 8 guys all year.

That was right before the Big 3 era. Once Boston got Pierce, KG and Ray Allen it triggered LeBron to going to Miami and then we were officially in the big 3 era and everyone was focusing on putting together a super team. Until the Warriors dynasty and teams tried to copy them. Recently it became about copying the Celtics. And now here we are talking about the Pacers blueprint. It’s the same conversation every year after every new champion it becomes about using them as a blueprint for what works and what is needed to win.

Right. Everyone copies something only it doesn't work.

Like everyone searched for the next Dirk for 20 years only there wasn't one.

[thebuzzardman]

At least the Pacers winning everything validates what a fool Thibs was with his rotations and use of the bench.

[Galvationknicks]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKzdanxOSv0/?igsh=MWFzaXY3M2xmcXlwMw==



Lmfao Pacers copying our celebrations now???
F Trea Young??? Really Pacers fans, since when lol

[Galvationknicks]

I remember how everyone copied those Spurs teams and every team looked for a generational talent at PF/C and there were 29 other Manu Ginobelli's running around.

With the 8th pick NYK select Channing Frye
With the 6th pick NYK select Danillo Gallinari

Our Timmy and Manu lol

[sol537]

If the pacers win the finals, I may have to pick a new sport to follow...

[RHODEY]

The window is open for a min... until wemby takes over.

Wemby is 7'4" and growing, its rare guys that tall have big windows of opportunity. Not wishing anything bad on him but for him sooner is way better than later.

And nobody guarantees him a winning team. He’ll always be only one of five players and we’ve seen incredible talent lose many, many basketball games. Shaq comes to mind and LeBron also needed some super teams to carry his ass and he’s lost more Finals than he’s won lol

I dont put Wemby in the Lebron team hopping for HOF help category. Dude actually has a bag....an insane bag at that.

[Besart19]

Read on Twitter

kind of a good point made

if the Pacers win, it will be interesting how it impacts the NBA as a whole

if you're a 50 win team, even if you don't have home court advantage from the Semis onward, you could win a championship with the right coaching staff and roster

more pressure on GM's and Team Presidents to make good decisions in team building.

you still need all-stars (and borderline all-stars or high level players), but superstars aren't tipping the scales

Owners are going to be less likely to buy excuses

this is because of the stars and agents asking for mad amount of salaries

Jordan had seasons with 3M of salary... how can you get a Rodman, Kukoc, Harper, Kerr and Longley when you have a Jordan and Pippen nowdays?... thats why the way Detroit, San Antonio, post Lebron Heat, Bucks and Indiana have been built in the last two decades make more sense

I was curious so I looked

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHI/1996.html#all_salaries2

All those guys made salaries all nearly close to each other from 1 to 3 mil range. Steve Kerr was making 800k. Kukoc made more than Pippen.


But to your point:

It might make sense long term to trade one of the big contracts (Mikal) for depth.

800 to 3K is like 4 times difference... now one star gets 50M and a role player 3M... its a huge gap

[Besart19]

Read on Twitter

kind of a good point made

if the Pacers win, it will be interesting how it impacts the NBA as a whole

if you're a 50 win team, even if you don't have home court advantage from the Semis onward, you could win a championship with the right coaching staff and roster

more pressure on GM's and Team Presidents to make good decisions in team building.

you still need all-stars (and borderline all-stars or high level players), but superstars aren't tipping the scales

Owners are going to be less likely to buy excuses

this is because of the stars and agents asking for mad amount of salaries

Jordan had seasons with 3M of salary... how can you get a Rodman, Kukoc, Harper, Kerr and Longley when you have a Jordan and Pippen nowdays?... thats why the way Detroit, San Antonio, post Lebron Heat, Bucks and Indiana have been built in the last two decades make more sense

I was curious so I looked

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHI/1996.html#all_salaries2

All those guys made salaries all nearly close to each other from 1 to 3 mil range. Steve Kerr was making 800k. Kukoc made more than Pippen.


But to your point:

It might make sense long term to trade one of the big contracts (Mikal) for depth.

800 to 3K is like 4 times difference... now one star gets 50M and a role player 3M... its a huge gap

Mikal or Hart or both

[MrDollarBills]

Russ declined player option. Let’s go get him for the min

I would do it because we could use a ball handler but I have a feeling fans might get aggravated with him.

[DaGawd]

russ would be a nice change of pace from brunson off the bench honestly

[Spot31]

Russ declined player option. Let’s go get him for the min

Maybe if we hire Michael Malone he'll sign with us.

[Galvationknicks]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKzdanxOSv0/?igsh=MWFzaXY3M2xmcXlwMw==



Lmfao Pacers copying our celebrations now???
F Trea Young??? Really Pacers fans, since when lol

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKv2kK2MSKW/?igsh=YzFpZHB4cnJzb2hu

They put up street signs, lmfao Toppin Ave you gotta be kidding

[spree2kawhi]

Wemby is 7'4" and growing, its rare guys that tall have big windows of opportunity. Not wishing anything bad on him but for him sooner is way better than later.

And nobody guarantees him a winning team. He’ll always be only one of five players and we’ve seen incredible talent lose many, many basketball games. Shaq comes to mind and LeBron also needed some super teams to carry his ass and he’s lost more Finals than he’s won lol

I dont put Wemby in the Lebron team hopping for HOF help category. Dude actually has a bag....an insane bag at that.

I know, but will he win? I guess he will, he’s really good. But is it guaranteed? If 20 years on realgm taught me anything, it’s that it doesn’t work how everybody/the mainstream/the loudest, rudest etc. anticipate and there will mostly be upsets at the end of the day. I think he will win some championships, but I won’t be surprised if things don’t go as planned.