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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1041 » by Capn'O » Wed Oct 1, 2025 10:28 pm

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thebuzzardman wrote:I'd rather it be Kolek than Dadiet, as Dadiet at least represents prototypical wing size, while with Kolek, the Knicks don't really need to develop a young PG for another few years. If it has to be one or the other.

Not sure Shamet is worth the move, but I could see a team that's trying to be all in doing something like this.

Then again, Leon sacrificed Grimes for Burks and Burks\Bogs and they kind of sucked.


The problem is I doubt Kolek is highly sought after.


Not sure if they can attach a pick (some 2nd rounder) and trade him into a cap space team. I guess that's not allowed. If it was, I'd do that.

As far as Dadiet goes, Knicks just drafted another big wing. And picked up Dink Pate. MAYBE they feel that's enough for the developmental pipeline and they'd be willing to sacrifice Dadiet for that vet.

For as limited a role that Shamet is going to play, I wouldn't trade Dadiet, but not sure what the thought process is.

And trading Deuce is just dumb and I'd only assume any rumors are based on the Knicks dangling him, but only it some scenario they see as a clear win, like Keon Ellis (not sure I see it as a win) or in some weird Kessler deal.

Meaning, they'll listen to offers on Deuce but aren't actively looking to move him.
Moving Deuce would also be dumb, and I'm aware of what he does well as well as his limitations.


We're not moving Deuce unless somebody blows our hair back. Not to make room for Shamet though. Deuce is just a different class of player than any of our other younger pieces in that he's already proven he's a mid-NBA rotation guy. That's a bigger trade for a big wing.

I really think the brass doesn't want to trade Dadiet or he'd be gone. We have the other guys you mentioned but Dadiet is more of a blue chipper imo. There's more that would need to happen for them to get as good. But we could trade him. I'd drop Shamet as well if it were me.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1042 » by GettinitDone » Thu Oct 2, 2025 1:18 am

Donovan Williams ??
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Post#1043 » by knicks1999 » Thu Oct 2, 2025 1:58 am

GettinitDone wrote:Donovan Williams ??

Westchester….they sign them then cut them in a day or 2 so the Knicks have the rights….something like that
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1044 » by G_K_F » Thu Oct 2, 2025 2:51 am

Shamet is not good enough to trade anyone on this roster to make room for.

Shamet is really not good, period.
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Post#1045 » by Moose » Thu Oct 2, 2025 3:41 am

G_K_F wrote:Shamet is not good enough to trade anyone on this roster to make room for.

Shamet is really not good, period.


If you bring in a healthy Brogdon plus Shamet and can trade Kolek for 2(+) second round picks, it's not a bad idea in this new CBA.

The Knicks have shown they could get cheap backup PGs and this helps restart a second round pick rookie contract, something that may be helpful in this new CBA.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1046 » by 8516knicks » Thu Oct 2, 2025 6:07 am

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The problem is I doubt Kolek is highly sought after.


Not sure if they can attach a pick (some 2nd rounder) and trade him into a cap space team. I guess that's not allowed. If it was, I'd do that.

As far as Dadiet goes, Knicks just drafted another big wing. And picked up Dink Pate. MAYBE they feel that's enough for the developmental pipeline and they'd be willing to sacrifice Dadiet for that vet.

For as limited a role that Shamet is going to play, I wouldn't trade Dadiet, but not sure what the thought process is.

And trading Deuce is just dumb and I'd only assume any rumors are based on the Knicks dangling him, but only it some scenario they see as a clear win, like Keon Ellis (not sure I see it as a win) or in some weird Kessler deal.

Meaning, they'll listen to offers on Deuce but aren't actively looking to move him.
Moving Deuce would also be dumb, and I'm aware of what he does well as well as his limitations.


We're not moving Deuce unless somebody blows our hair back. Not to make room for Shamet though. Deuce is just a different class of player than any of our other younger pieces in that he's already proven he's a mid-NBA rotation guy. That's a bigger trade for a big wing.

I really think the brass doesn't want to trade Dadiet or he'd be gone. We have the other guys you mentioned but Dadiet is more of a blue chipper imo. There's more that would need to happen for them to get as good. But we could trade him. I'd drop Shamet as well if it were me.


In your estimation (and anyone who wants to chime in), how long does Dadiet have to show something (be a rotation piece) or we say "Good luck in China." ???
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Post#1047 » by ctorres » Thu Oct 2, 2025 4:05 pm

I found a decent stream for this finally. Let's gooooo
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Post#1048 » by ctorres » Thu Oct 2, 2025 4:06 pm

it's Dadiet vs Shamet for that last roster spot is what I'm guessing
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1049 » by Richard4444 » Sun Oct 5, 2025 7:27 pm

The bottlenecks to trade our sophomores are the the other teams's apron space and especially the avaliable roster spots.

Also all the teams are testing summer camp players and they want to wait if any of them deserves a contract.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1050 » by Nazrmohamed » Sun Oct 5, 2025 11:16 pm

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Capn'O wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Not sure if they can attach a pick (some 2nd rounder) and trade him into a cap space team. I guess that's not allowed. If it was, I'd do that.

As far as Dadiet goes, Knicks just drafted another big wing. And picked up Dink Pate. MAYBE they feel that's enough for the developmental pipeline and they'd be willing to sacrifice Dadiet for that vet.

For as limited a role that Shamet is going to play, I wouldn't trade Dadiet, but not sure what the thought process is.

And trading Deuce is just dumb and I'd only assume any rumors are based on the Knicks dangling him, but only it some scenario they see as a clear win, like Keon Ellis (not sure I see it as a win) or in some weird Kessler deal.

Meaning, they'll listen to offers on Deuce but aren't actively looking to move him.
Moving Deuce would also be dumb, and I'm aware of what he does well as well as his limitations.


We're not moving Deuce unless somebody blows our hair back. Not to make room for Shamet though. Deuce is just a different class of player than any of our other younger pieces in that he's already proven he's a mid-NBA rotation guy. That's a bigger trade for a big wing.

I really think the brass doesn't want to trade Dadiet or he'd be gone. We have the other guys you mentioned but Dadiet is more of a blue chipper imo. There's more that would need to happen for them to get as good. But we could trade him. I'd drop Shamet as well if it were me.


In your estimation (and anyone who wants to chime in), how long does Dadiet have to show something (be a rotation piece) or we say "Good luck in China." ???


Probably about 3 yrs. He was drafted at the age of 19. Im not even so invested in youngins but this is the youngin you keep if anything. You trade Kolek who's 25yrs old, has a floor of not making the team and a ceiling of a third string PG........and thats IF Brogdan doesnt just spend time there instead. He shouldnt be here.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1051 » by Capn'O » Sun Oct 5, 2025 11:49 pm

Nazrmohamed wrote:
8516knicks wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
We're not moving Deuce unless somebody blows our hair back. Not to make room for Shamet though. Deuce is just a different class of player than any of our other younger pieces in that he's already proven he's a mid-NBA rotation guy. That's a bigger trade for a big wing.

I really think the brass doesn't want to trade Dadiet or he'd be gone. We have the other guys you mentioned but Dadiet is more of a blue chipper imo. There's more that would need to happen for them to get as good. But we could trade him. I'd drop Shamet as well if it were me.


In your estimation (and anyone who wants to chime in), how long does Dadiet have to show something (be a rotation piece) or we say "Good luck in China." ???


Probably about 3 yrs. He was drafted at the age of 19. Im not even so invested in youngins but this is the youngin you keep if anything. You trade Kolek who's 25yrs old, has a floor of not making the team and a ceiling of a third string PG........and thats IF Brogdan doesnt just spend time there instead. He shouldnt be here.


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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

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Post#1055 » by Enzo954 » Mon Oct 6, 2025 3:45 pm

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They are waiting to see if he can avoid injuries this season before offering a deal to him. Totally understandable.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1056 » by KnixinSix » Mon Oct 6, 2025 4:34 pm

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They are waiting to see if he can avoid injuries this season before offering a deal to him. Totally understandable.


Mitch is kinda the Center version of OG Anonoby defensively lol

He is all over the place. Also 24 reb in 32 minutes in 2 games. Impressive.

Now can he just stay healthy....
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1057 » by Wildcat » Mon Oct 6, 2025 4:53 pm

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Might be wrong, but I thought Bagley said neither sides were in a rush to get a deal done. Something about security vs. risk.
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Post#1058 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Oct 6, 2025 7:09 pm

I may have penned, er, typed an anti Mitch word or two. No extension is interesting based on prior examples of how this FO operates. Not a judgement call, just observation. When they don't extend early, they are looking to deal.

While it's not massive depth, Knicks invested heavily in KAT who should and drafted Hukporti though maybe he can be seen as the 3rd string project that replaced Sims.

I think the Knicks are better off with Mitch in some role, starting or bench. But feels like this is a sign a trade happens at the deadline.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1059 » by Richard4444 » Mon Oct 6, 2025 7:49 pm

If we re-sign Mitch and keep the core, we will be a second apron team next season for sure.
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Post#1060 » by Wildcat » Mon Oct 6, 2025 8:12 pm

Richard4444 wrote:If we re-sign Mitch and keep the core, we will be a second apron team next season for sure.


I can see the Knicks being a 2nd apron team for at least a season. KAT will probably be encouraged to opt out of his player option in 27-28 to sign a longer deal for less money. Think that'll help to avoid the 2nd apron repeater penalty (I guess).

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