[Camelo Thread Part 19] - Nyets won't be used pg 52

[smw6230]

STEIN_LINE_HQ
Sources say Nuggets operating under belief Melo and Prokhorov will meet in LA during AS Weekend no matter what Prokhorov spokeswoman told AP

Best news of the day.

If Stein is correct and Melo and Proky meet the commissioner's office would instantly bar Denver from trading Anthony to the Nets and probably sanction both to high heaven.

No player can meet with another owner to discuss contract issues unless that player is either a free agent or unless the NBA league office has already received completed trade paperwork (w/the proviso that there is a 24-48 hour windows for the player and new team to reach an agreement or the trade is null & void).

Failure to meet either of those terms would be considered tampering.

Look at it this way, if Stern didn't severely sanction the Nuggets and Nets for bypassing the rules against opening contract discussions with players on other teams currently under contract it would be open season on players under contract. With that precedent set what's to stop any owner from next year pulling up at the all star game and meeting with guys like Chris Paul, Deron Williams or Dwight Howard and doing the same thing?

The fact that the Nuggets would be ok with it doesn't matter. The league has strict rules regarding contact for players under contract for a reason. That's why they setup guidelines to govern contact.

[Pharmcat]

STEIN_LINE_HQ
Sources say Nuggets operating under belief Melo and Prokhorov will meet in LA during AS Weekend no matter what Prokhorov spokeswoman told AP

Best news of the day.

If Stein is correct and Melo and Proky meet the commissioner's office would instantly bar Denver from trading Anthony to the Nets and probably sanction both to high heaven.

No player can meet with another owner to discuss contract issues unless that player is either a free agent or unless the NBA league office has already received completed trade paperwork (w/the proviso that there is a 24-48 hour windows for the player and new team to reach an agreement or the trade is null & void).

Failure to meet either of those terms would be considered tampering.

i think they can meet as long as DEN grants permission

[Al_Bundy]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
For 'Melo to get trade to NY and $65M now, he needs to leverage Knicks to meet Denver's demands. From somewhere, he wants that extension.

This is agent-speak.
So he has to help the team he's leaving fleece the one he wants to play for?
I subscribe to the posted theory "go to New Jersey Melo. I dare you."
I don't think money, at least salary, is at the heart of this.
He wants that extension but he wants NYC more.
The Nuggets have boxed themselves into a corner.
The man that now owns the Nets does not come off like the kind of man to beg.
I don't think he'll want the perception of him surrendering every asset NJ has (sans Lopez)
for a guy that clearly does not want to play for him.
And Melo hasn't held out for all this time to now relent.

You know something? The longer this goes, the more likely that he actually has a "Decision" like special of his own. He loves the attention. And that....frightens me a bit. So Denver, stop playing around and distracting the fans away from this great basketball season we are in the midst of. Do right by your superstar. Do right by your fans and franchise. Trade Melo to the Knicks for a reasonable package. Now. In the summer we have a TPE and a 2nd round pick with your name on it.
Don't cut your nose to spite your face.

I disagree wholeheartedly.

At the end of the day on February 24th he will take the money from any team.

[seren]

I think the plan is as follows: BSPN and Wojina will ask for interviews from Melo and Prokhorov. The interviews will be mistakenly scheduled at exactly the same time at the same place. Preferably, a dinner reservation at a romantic restaurant. The hope is that after a short awkward period, the two sides will break the ice and start talking. Nothing like a blind date baby.

[Jay10]

STEIN_LINE_HQ
Sources say Nuggets operating under belief Melo and Prokhorov will meet in LA during AS Weekend no matter what Prokhorov spokeswoman told AP

Best news of the day.

If Stein is correct and Melo and Proky meet the commissioner's office would instantly bar Denver from trading Anthony to the Nets and probably sanction both to high heaven.

No player can meet with another owner to discuss contract issues unless that player is either a free agent or unless the NBA league office has already received completed trade paperwork (w/the proviso that there is a 24-48 hour windows for the player and new team to reach an agreement or the trade is null & void).

Failure to meet either of those terms would be considered tampering.

they will probably use the excuse of this being the meeting they were granted before they pulled out.

lol

[adog50]

Tomorrow were going to wake up to more news,, Different news. Same s*it different day. its never gong to end until next week.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
For 'Melo to get trade to NY and $65M now, he needs to leverage Knicks to meet Denver's demands. From somewhere, he wants that extension.

This is agent-speak.
So he has to help the team he's leaving fleece the one he wants to play for?
I subscribe to the posted theory "go to New Jersey Melo. I dare you."
I don't think money, at least salary, is at the heart of this.
He wants that extension but he wants NYC more.
The Nuggets have boxed themselves into a corner.
The man that now owns the Nets does not come off like the kind of man to beg.
I don't think he'll want the perception of him surrendering every asset NJ has (sans Lopez)
for a guy that clearly does not want to play for him.
And Melo hasn't held out for all this time to now relent.

You know something? The longer this goes, the more likely that he actually has a "Decision" like special of his own. He loves the attention. And that....frightens me a bit. So Denver, stop playing around and distracting the fans away from this great basketball season we are in the midst of. Do right by your superstar. Do right by your fans and franchise. Trade Melo to the Knicks for a reasonable package. Now. In the summer we have a TPE and a 2nd round pick with your name on it.
Don't cut your nose to spite your face.

I disagree wholeheartedly.

At the end of the day on February 24th he will take the money from any team.

Let's see Masai.
Bully season y'all.

[Jay10]

if i were donnie i would pull out of the trade and force carmelo to make a decision.

[seren]

Hold on hold on. My sources say the possibility of an accidental encounter between Melo and Prokhorov at Staples Center bathroom can not be dismissed.

[Jitpal]

I was just about to go to sleep but then I saw this and this all made A LOT more sense.

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
In proposed Nuggets-Nets deal, Denver would move Troy Murphy onto a third team with 1 or 2 of Nets four picks as sweetener, sources tell Y!

So if 1/2 picks and Murphy equal AR/Curry for the TPE. Then Harris and Favors means Felton and 1 of the 3. 2 picks equal two picks. So really, it's not that outlandish a deal then. Still, I don't think it's a real offer because it matches up too well with the Knicks original offer with Curry going to Minny for a TPE. They want the Knicks to pony up more than just Chandler and add a Felton/Billups swap + either Gallo, Fields or Mozgov. -Jitpal

[munchies]

Denver is trying to rebuild now and somewhat contend for playoffs next season, which is a pipe dream. they don't want to be Cleveland Cavaliers of the east. they know melo is leaving and they wont attract any new Free Agents next season so they are trying HARD to save face, face which they know is going to get planted on a pile of **** pretty soon. so they choose to play media mind games. listen, its somewhat smart and win/win for them, BSPN and all those clown so called reporters; it makes people read and watch BSPN =PROFIT, and denver thinks they are scarring NY. DONNIE KNOWS ALL OF THIS, LIKE A BAUSSSS HE IS. he's dumps are more clever than Denver FO

IN DONNIE I TRUST

[K_ick_God]

At the end of the day on February 24th he will take the money from any team.

If that's true, and he'll sign with "any team," then why wouldn't Denver just force him to sign with them?

[Jay10]

i would force him into thinking about re-signing with denver or the nets.

[ibraheim718]

I was thinking about this whole situation for a bit just a while ago. And it seems we are demonizing the wrong party when it comes to all the leaked info.

All of these rumors and such were most likely started by CAA (www&cronies) because they stand to gain the most if Melo is traded and signs the extension. So they probably directed Anthony to get in Spears ear and tell him "I'll take real hard look at signing the extension with Denver if I'm not traded to Denver" in order to get NY to raise their offer.... because if Melo wants his EXT. and wants NY their (CAA) job is to get that done. SO right now as the deadline nears the rumors about NJ are coming out fast and furious purposely to get NY to raise the ante. Remember Denver does not gain anything by trading Melo but Melo and his agent do (again they get the team he wants and the Extension the best of both worlds). I see it like this Denver up until the last minute will cringe pulling the trigger on a trade (especially for a first time Gm).

So there are so many agendas for all of the parties included. The Knicks want to make out like Bandits and continue to form their own superteam. The Nets want to stick it to NY and get their marquee player to bring to Brooklyn. The Nuggets want to convince Anthony to stay and if not try and recoup as much as humanly possible for him. Melo wants to get paid and play in NY. And his agent and CAA want to get paid also, flaunt their clout and make their client happy. I think CAA is way more to blame than Denver (uriji) or NJ.

Just like in the summer of Lebron that rat WWW is probably pulling all the strings. These kids trust him. They value his opinion. He's in their ear.

If this doesn't get done by the deadline all previous assumptions are thrown out the window (he only wants to play in NY). And this situation turns in to the exact same scenario that went on with Lebron this summer....it's the same cast of character's using the same mouthpieces (broussard,Wojina,Bucher). If only to spare us the torment all over again, the constant rumors and garbage we had to put up with all summer this needs to get done by the deadline... be it NY,NJ or he signs in Denver.

[smw6230]

i think they can meet as long as DEN grants permission

Playing along, what's to stop the Knicks or Houston from then filing tampering charges. The league has a framework in place that governs contact with contracted players. I don't see how Stern can just overlook those bylaws and waive them because of some alleged, but not confirmed, tactic agreement between two clubs.

That stuff has to be formalized with the league beforehand. No way Stern ok's backroom violations of the leagues rules by two clubs.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

This reminds me of last year's deadline.
Expect within the next week for Melo's agents and Denver brass to clash. The anti'Knick sentiment will soon enough be anti-Denver.
They know Melo is set on what he wants. But they want that extension. Their future with him as a client is also at stake here. They know he wants no part of NJ.
There were rumors of screaming matches between T-Mac's agent and Sacto* last year minutes up to the deadline. (*their participation in the 3-way) I expect the same leading up to this deadline as well.

[ibraheim718]

This reminds me of last year's deadline.
Expect within the next week for Melo's agents and Denver brass to clash. The anti'Knick sentiment will soon enough be anti-Denver.
They know Melo is set on what he wants. But they want that extension. Their future with him as a client is also at stake here. They know he wants no part of NJ.
There were rumors of screaming matches between T-Mac's agent and Sacto* last year minutes up to the deadline. (*their participation in the 3-way) I expect the same leading up to this deadline as well.

Melo wants that extension also...

[seren]

At the end of the day on February 24th he will take the money from any team.

If that's true, and he'll sign with "any team," then why wouldn't Denver just force him to sign with them?

I don't think "any team", but I have started to suspect whether Denver wants to keep Melo on a max contract. Maybe the max offer is really not on the table anymore, but they told Melo to play along unless he wants to face FA market.

[ibraheim718]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
For 'Melo to get trade to NY and $65M now, he needs to leverage Knicks to meet Denver's demands. From somewhere, he wants that extension.
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^^^^^^^^^this is exactly what WWW,CAA and rose are doing for Melo right now.

[Al_Bundy]

At the end of the day on February 24th he will take the money from any team.

If that's true, and he'll sign with "any team," then why wouldn't Denver just force him to sign with them?

They will, after the deadline. He will take the money because he would have no choice. He doesn't want to lose that money.

Nobody is denying he wants to go to NY but not over the $65 million.