Raps trying to trade us Lowry...

Post #1061 » by **K_ick_God** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:47 pm

emo wrote:
Knicks_Fan2 wrote:Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard 47s
Knicks' pursuit of Kyle Lowry being held up by Knicks' refusal to give up 1st round pick, sources say

Wojina is usually more accurate than him.

MaseInYourFace · Post #1062 » by **MaseInYourFace** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:47 pm

Knicks_Fan2 wrote:Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard 47s
Knicks' pursuit of Kyle Lowry being held up by Knicks' refusal to give up 1st round pick, sources say

P.S. Until Dolan signs off...

Starksfor3 · Post #1063 » by **Starksfor3** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:47 pm

shmeakone wrote:@Chris_Broussard 1m

Knicks' pursuit of Kyle Lowry being held up by Knicks' refusal to give up 1st round pick, sources say

GOOD, show some balls. **** it just don't do this deal. Its not the right one.

This is the news that usually breaks right before Ujiri mind rapes our incompetent owner and we give up three unprotected first rounders and THJ.

ibraheim718 · Post #1064 » by **ibraheim718** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:47 pm

Knicks_Fan2 wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:
YaMomsEx wrote:We are such a crazy fan base lmao....look at us going crazy over something that might not happem

Like I said earlier the rumors so far have been on the money this year.. I think this one is happening.

Apparently Masai is in Istanbul watching the Nets prospect, Bogdanovich...

It's a relatively easy deal to pull off... they had every intention on moving Lowry now they just have pit Brooklyn against us to get the 1st the want.

The bad thing about these deals is I really like getting revved up for the draft.

Post #1065 » by **K_ick_God** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:47 pm

Toronto, I have a player you may prefer to Shump, the pick or even THJ. He's a silky smooth 7-footer from Italy.

Mars_Blackmon · Post #1066 » by **Mars_Blackmon** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:47 pm

Bargs deal got held up too and look what happened

Since89 · Post #1067 » by **Since89** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:48 pm

bkknicks19 wrote:
Since89 wrote:
bkknicks19 wrote:
dude, aside from this first 20 games, the last time he averaged close to those numbers over a full season was in 2010-11 and guess what, that team wasn't in the playoffs...no he's not a huge upgrade

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/i ... kyle-lowry

you seem confused

hes averaged that for the past 4 years

wait did you read the link you posted and what i wrote? I said a FULL season and aside from this season since its only 20 games in. You stated "over the last 4 years"..lets discuss. Throw out this season since its not done, 1/4 years down. last yr over 68 gms he avg 11 pts, 2/4 down. Year before that was a lockout yr and thusly gets thrown out since i directly said FULL season, 3/4 out. Leaving us with the 2010-11 season where, GASP, he averaged close to the numbers you spoke of and GASP, that team did not make the playoffs! GASP!! Cmon son...

Felton hasnt played a full season either since 2009 he shoots 32% from 3 averages 5-6 ast and 3 boards with atrocious defense

yes Lowry is a huge upgrade, he is better across the board :rofl:

all that gasping got u lightheaded u cant think straight hold on to ur breath and use ur noodle next time :rofl:

Post #1068 » by **K_ick_God** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:48 pm

Starksfor3 wrote:
shmeakone wrote:@Chris_Broussard 1m

Knicks' pursuit of Kyle Lowry being held up by Knicks' refusal to give up 1st round pick, sources say

GOOD, show some balls. **** it just don't do this deal. Its not the right one.

This is the news that usually breaks right before Ujiri mind rapes our incompetent owner and we give up three unprotected first rounders and THJ.

lol

Can't disagree there.

Dbloc123 · Post #1069 » by **Dbloc123** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:48 pm

knickabocker88 wrote:Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard 33s
Knicks' pursuit of Kyle Lowry being held up by Knicks' refusal to give up 1st round pick, sources say

Now we know the pick is gone

Keep hope alive,,,, :lol:

NO PICKS

Mars_Blackmon · Post #1070 » by **Mars_Blackmon** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:48 pm

Brooklyn can deal their 2020 pick thats it, Ujiri playing this great

god shammgod · Post #1071 » by **god shammgod** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:49 pm

without a pick why would toronto bother though ?

you can't hold firm when the other option is giving them nothing.

ibraheim718 · Post #1072 » by **ibraheim718** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:50 pm

Shouldn't you at least try to give the PG on the team you haven't given a chance to yet to play meaningful minutes before you go trading first rounders away? Just in case...

jp007 · Post #1073 » by **jp007** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:50 pm

[GR] wrote:
jp007 wrote:Im pretty sure that the knicks are holding on to the pick to ship lowry to Boston with the 2018 and shump for rondo

nope

Think about it why would we want to hold on to the 2018 pick when 2015 is our goal. if we can get a better player like rondo why not go for it.

Buggin Out · Post #1074 » by **Buggin Out** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:50 pm

We are fighting back? Maybe Steve Mills has some balls.... Felton Murray and Aldrich for Lowry. :lol:

Knox · Post #1075 » by **Knox** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:50 pm

Mars_Blackmon wrote:
knickabocker88 wrote:Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard 33s
Knicks' pursuit of Kyle Lowry being held up by Knicks' refusal to give up 1st round pick, sources say

Now we know the pick is gone

pretty much, Welcome to New York Kyle, you suck already

bkknicks19 · Post #1076 » by **bkknicks19** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:50 pm

greenhughes wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
greenhughes wrote:No your gonna see 5 of Lowry.......

i wonder about that. they're pretty adamant about no long contracts. otherwise they could get him for free by just taking landry back.

If you let him walk, who will be our PG starting next year?

James dolan

god shammgod · Post #1077 » by **god shammgod** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:50 pm

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 53s

Knicks don't want to burn first-rounder for Kyle Lowry and naturally prefer to keep Hardaway Jr. + save Shumpert (for another deal). But ...

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #1078 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:50 pm

ca1 wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
ca1 wrote:Ya how has it bitten us in ass? We traded a pick that wasn't ours for bargs
And this years pick if we at to potential should be in20's
Who cares name a super star to come out of 20's

And a real pg is one who can beat someone off dribble and stick his man

If you watch all the games this year we are always on our heels
Bc we can't defend pg
And we can beat them off dribble

A real pg can at the very least make the offense run smoother and take pressure off chandler when he comes back

Listen if you pay attention the knicks har stated what are plans are
Build through FA
We want love or Irving or rondo In 2015
We have th jr with Melo Maybe shump
That's a good core

1) we did trade our pick and seconds to get bargs.
2) every time we traded a pick in the past it has bitten us in the ass. go through the history yourself. i know what i am talking about
3) you dont need a top 5 pick to grab a great player -- PACERS. never "tanked properly" and have arguably the best team in the east and are a legitimate championship threat.
4) our pick will be late teens. guess what? good players can be found there
5) lowry isnt a "real point guard" -- hes a souped up felton. or what felton "is supposed to be." thats it. he cant run an offense like dragic or any other non superstar point guard...****...gimme sessions over lowry and felton. and yes i mean it.
6) whos gonna want to come to a team like ours if we suck/if melo leaves?
7) irving is a rfa. hes not going anywhere
8) rondo sure...hes a possibility
9) we cannot risk our future to help a team that AS CURRENTLY structured (from owner to players) has no chance of being a championship team this year...and, honestly, probably not for a while. you improve a team through free agency AND the draft...not one or the other (unless youre okc and luck out).

Yea bc the pacers blew us out when they played us
And the heat look like world beaters

This year is wide open the knicks are close
Again we need a pg
Also this deal lets us bring up Tyler

And how's it bitten us in ass? Get off eddy curry deal name one person who thought he was a superstar
And since when have we drafted superstars?

Fyre
Sweenty
Balkman
Shump
Mardy Collins
Nate
Lee
Gallanarai

I would trade everyone of them for Melo and for pieces that puts us in contention
Bc none of them are difference makers

The clok is running on this season

We got Melo and we are in win now mode

I

-we are in win now mode and we shouldnt be.
-the players are good to very good players relative to draft position (minus collins, sweetney, and balkman).
-look at the picks we traded and where they were / who was drafted after those picks. guess what? those players could have been ours.
-the knicks are not "close" to anything. there are 2 tiers in the east -- miami / pacers and everyone else. we are much closer to being the worst team in the east than we are to being championship contenders (even ignoring records)
-tyler wont do **** for us in terms of changing the outlook of this season
-the pacers not wrecking us has little to do with them being a championship contender. taking miami to 7 games last year and having the best record in the league means more. they are a team built the right way that is prided on defense -- aka the RIGHT way to play. they are a world class COMPETENT organization. any time you have an organization that is toxic, aka ours, your chances for winning a championship diminish significantly.

NOOB77 · Post #1079 » by **NOOB77** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:50 pm

If we trade for Lowry it will be Shump, THjr or a pick going to Toronto. Along with Felton and MWP

Zackmorris · Post #1080 » by **Zackmorris** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:50 pm

god shammgod wrote:Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 53s

Knicks don't want to burn first-rounder for Kyle Lowry and naturally prefer to keep Hardaway Jr. + save Shumpert (for another deal). But ...

Stay strong Mills!

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