Knicks-Rockets PG: Who didn't see this coming?

[omaro34]

Trash team. How much longer can we allow this crap to happen? New York has been starving for a winning team in so long. This trash **** **** **** **** team always losing same results different year.

[LG733]

You guys do know, that it's possible that both Melo and KP aren't looking too great right? It doesn't have to be one or the other. I don't understand the KP vs Melo war on this board...it's silly.

[moocow007]

Ever see a group of girls and there's always the one who one of the homies has to take one for the team for. The Knicks are the take one for the team.

Knicks on the left?

[GONYK]

by the way, as you fight amongst yourselves, you're not really finding the right person to blame. the guy who was the architect of all of this. i done warned you. you didn't want to listen. now suffer b*tches. suffer.

I'm doing fine, thanks.

We're getting close to "Phil failed." He'll probably leave after this year if things continue as they are. As long as he doesn't further **** the cap situation or trade any picks, the franchise (not team) is in a decent place. Especially if Rose stays healthy I even like Hornacek paired with a GM that will let him do his thing.

I do fear what will follow him. I have no faith in Dolan to go with one of the real guru execs. If it happens though, great.

Masai!

[Fat Kat]

You guys do know, that it's possible that both Melo and KP aren't looking too great right? It doesn't have to be one or the other. I don't understand the KP vs Melo war on this board...it's silly.

Of course. It's way too early for any of this harsh criticism, but if folks want to go apes**t, it's needs to be spread evenly and fairly. When it hits the fan, nobody stays clean. Ya hear that Ron Baker!

[xNewYorkMadex]

Knicks are only 3 games back from 1st place in the Eastern Conference you fools!

[god shammgod]

by the way, as you fight amongst yourselves, you're not really finding the right person to blame. the guy who was the architect of all of this. i done warned you. you didn't want to listen. now suffer b*tches. suffer.

I'm doing fine, thanks.

We're getting close to "Phil failed." He'll probably leave after this year if things continue as they are. As long as he doesn't further **** the cap situation or trade any picks, the franchise (not team) is in a decent place. Especially if Rose stays healthy I even like Hornacek paired with a GM that will let him do his thing.

I do fear what will follow him. I have no faith in Dolan to go with one of the real guru execs. If it happens though, great.

Masai!

didn't he reup this summer ?

[MartinsLusis]

I agree we should trade kp and keep an aging fat iso ball carmelo anthony and let a young healthy 7'3 prospect go. AND also slide lance to starting line up. This will definitely work. No favoritism here. Lmao. I can't stop laughing lol

KP is soft, weak and passive. Get rid of Melo too. I don't want either one.

Towns>>>>>>>

KP ain't that dude.

LOL and Cousins whom you want to trade KP for isn't soft? He's a primadonna whining about everything all the time.

And by the way Melo should learn a thing or two from Harden, Lebron and other greats who not only score themselves, but also get 10+ assists on a regular basis. They make other players around them better as much as I don't like both of them because of their egos.

[K_ick_God]

gallo's "success" may not be the best example. i'm just saying.

Gallo has been a damn good player in Denver, just not healthy. Not a star, but we never thought he'd be a star. When healthy, he's exactly who many of us thought he'd be

Including those of us who didn't think he'd be healthy.

[Rotten Apple]

Ever see a group of girls and there's always the one who one of the homies has to take one for the team for. The Knicks are the take one for the team.

Knicks on the left?

Exactly what I meant

[K_ick_God]

I can deal with almost any point of view but while KP is not guns blazing just yet, some folks are targeting KP as a proxy war against those of us who are tiring of Melo overshooting.

Come now. That's not really analysis, that's stomping your feet.

KP is 21. Melo is supposed to be doing all he can to help the team as the leader -- he means well but he should know by now that forcing the issue doesn't work.

[jwise44]

Ever see a group of girls and there's always the one who one of the homies has to take one for the team for. The Knicks are the take one for the team.

Knicks on the left?

Woah brother, I love the Knicks, too, but the Knicks aren't THAT hot!!!

Want me some of that!

[Fat Kat]

I can deal with almost any point of view but while KP is not guns blazing just yet, some folks are targeting KP as a proxy war against those of us who are tiring of Melo overshooting.

Come now. That's not really analysis, that's stomping your feet.

KP is 21. Melo is supposed to be doing all he can to help the team as the leader -- he means well but he should know by now that forcing the issue doesn't work.

Calling for a tank and rooting for losses is stomping your feet. Calling for a roster overhaul after 4 games is stomping your feet. Aimlessly trolling can also be viewed as foot stomping.

KP isn't playing wel and isn't immune to criticism. Don't pick and choose the BS. Embrace it all.

[MartinsLusis]

KP last year: 14 ppg on 42%

KP this year, before tonight: 18 ppg, on 45%.

But yea, he's regressing.

Before tonight key word

Yeah he's at 14 on 41% now and it's skewed because of the 7/11 game.

Outside of that game he's averaging 12 on 34% shooting

That's atrocious

Yes. Or maybe last night's game skewed it? Way to go with selective stats after only 4 games. You basically ignored 25% of the games. You and Greenie really should do less trolling.

Let's just stay with 14 on 41%. That includes one really game and one uncharacteristically bad game. And also maybe let's wait until at least 20 games have been played before arriving to any conclusions on development and stats? KP is stronger, faster and also has a much quicker release and better handles this year. Also better driving to the rim and not having the ball stripped as often.

But yeah, he's trash, he's soft and you and Greenie are real basketball gurus.

P.S. I'm not saying that his defense is good right now. Of course not. But he will adjust as he's done until now. He will work on it and also he looked good when he was playing 5. People who say that he will be destroyed when playing as a 5 don't remember him shutting down Boogie last year while playing center.

[whocares1]

It was actually the opposite, the defense was on point in the 4th and the Pistons were held to only 16 points in the entire quarter, and that was because Porzingis was on the bench. The problem in the 4th was they couldn't score a basket on the offensive side, but defensively they shut down the Pistons. Porzingis was on the bench the entire quarter until only 3 minutes in the game. Proves my point

The sad part is that the Knicks were actually within 3-5 points the entire time Porzingis was on the bench, but when he came back in the Pistons went on a run and the lead ballooned up to 10, after KCP hit a 3 pointer. Do you want to guess who he hit that shot on after being left wide open? If you guessed Porzingis then you would be correct.

Then why did the Knicks struggle defensively against the Rockets when Porzingis was sitting?

Because his 1st quarter defense demoralized the entire team from the moment the ball was tipped. Go look at the 1st quarter, he killed the entire spirit of the team, whatever they had going in after he killed their spirit the night before in Detroit.

This can't be serious. So you're saying veterans became demoralized because KP was struggling defensively, so they stopped guarding their guy as well? Wouldn't telling a 21 year sophomore euro player to D up be a better strategy then "If KP ain't guarding him, I ain't guarding no one either."? I just want to understand your rationale.

[MartinsLusis]

Outside of Melo's 5/15 vs Memphis he's averaging 21 on 47%.

Even with the Memphis game he's at 21 on 44%

If numbers are what people want. There you go.

And there you go a few posts later skewing the stats for Melo in the opposite way. I say he's averaging 21 on 41% or 20 on 43% depending on which game you remove.

[Floozenheimen]

Ever see a group of girls and there's always the one who one of the homies has to take one for the team for. The Knicks are the take one for the team.

Knicks on the left?

Melo and her probably have the same eating habits.

[whocares1]

Knicks fans: Removing outlier games from statistics to justify their point since 2016.

[Floozenheimen]

Knicks fans: Removing outlier games from statistics to justify their point since 2016.

When Marbury did not east vasaline he was an all-star. Clearly his time in NY was an outlier.

[Capn'O]

Nice! Appreciate the effort. KP has still been underwhelming though so hopefully that changes.

That, I don't disagree with. Not a great start to the year.