Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread

Dave DaButcher · Post #1061 » by **Dave DaButcher** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:17 pm

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If Presti wanted the number one pick for him, highly unlikely we have anywhere near the assets to get Shai, especially if RJ is off the table (as he should be).

Still, it’s nice to dream as he’d solve so many long-term problems for us.

iLLmatic860 · Post #1062 » by **iLLmatic860** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:33 pm

Dave DaButcher wrote:

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If Presti wanted the number one pick for him, highly unlikely we have anywhere near the assets to get Shai, especially if RJ is off the table (as he should be).

Still, it’s nice to dream as he’d solve so many long-term problems for us.

Anybody but RG

I would do an Iq package with multiple 1sts

Adelheid · Post #1063 » by **Adelheid** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:42 pm

For this board, RJ is off-limits, but how much does the FO value him as a future piece?

F N 11 · Post #1064 » by **F N 11** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:51 pm

No chit he can be had. Dude just got put into a trade on front street lol. OKC a revolving door. they trying to run a franchise without paying anybody.

DaGawd · Post #1065 » by **DaGawd** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:54 pm

I would trade RJ with the quickness if that could help us get SGA

Knicksfan1992 · Post #1066 » by **Knicksfan1992** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:57 pm

Adelheid wrote:For this board, RJ is off-limits, but how much does the FO value him as a future piece?

You're not really helping yourself long term by trading RJ for Shai even if he is an upgrade because you're still going to have to trade a pick or 2 and likely Obi or IQ to get the deal done.

If I'm the Knicks I offer Mitch, IQ, Obi and probably like 2-3 1sts/swaps. All those guys are cheap and IQ and Obi don't have to be paid for a while. You'll be bare asset-wise but you'll still have a ton of cap flexibility going forward.

Somebody would beat that offer, but you never know maybe SGA really likes RJ and puts the Knicks at the top of his list.

Knicksfan1992 · Post #1067 » by **Knicksfan1992** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:58 pm

DaGawd wrote:I would trade RJ with the quickness if that could help us get SGA

SGA and RJ likely want to be playing together. They are buddies

F N 11 · Post #1068 » by **F N 11** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:03 pm

How legit is NBA central? Are they just posting rumors?

F N 11 · Post #1069 » by **F N 11** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:03 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:
DaGawd wrote:I would trade RJ with the quickness if that could help us get SGA

SGA and RJ likely want to be playing together. They are buddies

Frank would take a pay cut to stay to have fashion shows with him lmaoo

digitaldropoff · Post #1070 » by **digitaldropoff** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:04 pm

Adelheid wrote:For this board, RJ is off-limits, but how much does the FO value him as a future piece?

SGA is a better player, I'm not sure why NY would say RJ is off limits when they know OKC would only want players near SGA, which NY only has RJ as a player that works for proper compensation. A package of Quick and 1sts doesn't really do anything for a team that has like 30 picks over the next five years. They want good players in return for their very good player.

3toheadmelo · Post #1071 » by **3toheadmelo** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:20 pm

Send rj on a plane already

Post #1072 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:26 pm

If OKC is trading SGA cause they dont want to pay him right now, they are probably not even that interested in RJ...at least enough where he would be the main piece in a SGA trade

Buttah304 · Post #1073 » by **Buttah304** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:32 pm

aggo wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
aggo wrote:Been pounding the table for Fournier for months now.

Dude simply plays winning basketball.

Do you get that from the winning he did in Orlando or in Boston last year?

hes done more winning than our entire roster combined

just beat team usa

Aggo - don’t get me wrong Fournier is a good player and has been a professional scorer for years.

But if we are going to add a 2 to slide next to RJ it would be much smarter to go after Powell IMO.

NP has much less wear and tear (been in the league 3 less years) and I believe he’s a more versatile scorer and he’s more efficient. He’s also a better defender and more athletic.

Just my two cents.

NYF13 · Post #1074 » by **NYF13** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:36 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:If OKC is trading SGA cause they dont want to pay him right now, they are probably not even that interested in RJ...at least enough where he would be the main piece in a SGA trade

Exactly!

Marty McFly · Post #1075 » by **Marty McFly** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:42 pm

Adelheid wrote:For this board, RJ is off-limits, but how much does the FO value him as a future piece?

he should have all of the value in the world, considering America's next generational talent is his best friend. The knicks are always dick riding FA's but they never actually lay the ground work to get the top tier guys. they just expect them to want to sign "cause knicks".

Post #1076 » by **DOT** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:48 pm

Marty McFly wrote:
Adelheid wrote:For this board, RJ is off-limits, but how much does the FO value him as a future piece?

he should have all of the value in the world, considering America's next generational talent is his best friend. The knicks are always dick riding FA's but they never actually lay the ground work to get the top tier guys. they just expect them to want to sign "cause knicks".

I just think it's weird that people genuinely think he's hit his ceiling, and that he literally can't do anything with the ball in his hands

But the even weirder ones are those who are insistent that not only is he just a 3-D guy with literally no other skills, but that he's never been anything but a 3-D guy as a prospect, when he clearly hasn't been

Like, I get swapping RJ for SGA makes us better cause SGA is clearly better than RJ and a better prospect, but firstly it won't be a straight up swap, and secondly, the goal should be to get them together, if anything

It's like if in the Dame trade scenarios people suggested we trade Randle for Dame cause Dame's better. Yeah, that's true, but you want them both, not just one or the other.

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Knicksfan1992 · Post #1077 » by **Knicksfan1992** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:51 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:If OKC is trading SGA cause they dont want to pay him right now, they are probably not even that interested in RJ...at least enough where he would be the main piece in a SGA trade

This and like I said earlier, I think the appeal in NY for SGA (outside of obvious market size increase, fashion, etc.) is that he would pay with his Canadian buddy RJ. OKC has a history of sending their guys where they would like to go. If SGA pushes for NY, then you likely don't need to put RJ in the package. Mitch I think is a better fit for their core roster anyway and they wouldn't have to pay him a max or anything close to it.

Knicksfan1992 · Post #1078 » by **Knicksfan1992** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:53 pm

K-DOT wrote:
Marty McFly wrote:
Adelheid wrote:For this board, RJ is off-limits, but how much does the FO value him as a future piece?

he should have all of the value in the world, considering America's next generational talent is his best friend. The knicks are always dick riding FA's but they never actually lay the ground work to get the top tier guys. they just expect them to want to sign "cause knicks".
I just think it's weird that people genuinely think he's hit his ceiling, and that he literally can't do anything with the ball in his hands

But the even weirder ones are those who are insistent that not only is he just a 3-D guy with literally no other skills, but that he's never been anything but a 3-D guy as a prospect, when he clearly hasn't been

Like, I get swapping RJ for SGA makes us better cause SGA is clearly better than RJ and a better prospect, but firstly it won't be a straight up swap, and secondly, the goal should be to get them together, if anything

It's like if in the Dame trade scenarios people suggested we trade Randle for Dame cause Dame's better. Yeah, that's true, but you want them both, not just one or the other.

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This board and factions of Knicks twitter love to hard cap our young player's ceilings as like a counter balance to the extreme homers. It's bizarre to me. The rhetoric around RJ really surprises me. I don't remember anybody being as negative about KP this early on and RJ is way more likeable IMO.

nykballa2k4 · Post #1079 » by **nykballa2k4** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:55 pm

Dave DaButcher wrote:

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If Presti wanted the number one pick for him, highly unlikely we have anywhere near the assets to get Shai, especially if RJ is off the table (as he should be).

Still, it’s nice to dream as he’d solve so many long-term problems for us.

Per WT its SGA + 6 for #1. Sounds about right.

Post #1080 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:57 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:If OKC is trading SGA cause they dont want to pay him right now, they are probably not even that interested in RJ...at least enough where he would be the main piece in a SGA trade

This and like I said earlier, I think the appeal in NY for SGA (outside of obvious market size increase, fashion, etc.) is that he would pay with his Canadian buddy RJ. OKC has a history of sending their guys where they would like to go. If SGA pushes for NY, then you likely don't need to put RJ in the package. Mitch I think is a better fit for their core roster anyway and they wouldn't have to pay him a max or anything close to it.

Yea, it would be nice to pair SGA and RJ. As much as I would love to have SGA it doesnt seem realistic. Think they may have been looking for a top 3 pick. But you never know.