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This YouTube comment was pretty good:
"Trumpanzees hitting dead sea levels of salty!"
"Trumpanzees hitting dead sea levels of salty!"
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BKlutch wrote:Amsterdam wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:
Let's see if this starts breaking, pretty big for Trump to come out and make a video about the collusioin between FBI, State Dept and Hillary. Word is getting out.
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-video-fbi-documents-hillary-clinton-2016-10?international=true&r=US&IR=T
My questions to you all is the following:
1. There are numerous reports that under this administration, the use of Al Queda has been used extensively in Syria, much like they were used in Afghanistan against Russia. Aren't they our sworn enemy? or Are WE missing something? The arming by a U.S. citizen of an enemy combatant is akin to treason...no?
2. The Saudis arm these same folks buy buying waepons from allies from the stock pile of "acquired" weapons from both Iraq and Libya.
But what really really really. boggles my mind, is how passive and forgiving the citizens of this, our Country have become regarding the support and funding of these guys.
Seems that H.C. is in line with the use of them as proxies, (again see Afghanistan), apparently the missing emails prove this.
So Trump is a loose nut, we all agree, but don't dismiss everything he says. He's highlighting rumors mainstream media doesn't want to touch.
Trump thought he was bleeding edge. Now, he's just gone over the edge. Good riddance.
Wasn't really talking about Trump. But that's the whole re-direction thing.
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CJackson wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:
Let's see if this starts breaking, pretty big for Trump to come out and make a video about the collusioin between FBI, State Dept and Hillary. Word is getting out.
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-video-fbi-documents-hillary-clinton-2016-10?international=true&r=US&IR=T
It is fairly naive to think Trump making a video is going to have any effect on the election whatsoever
For one, this obnoxious loser tactic of calling the election rigged is turning off everyone except die hards like you
Second, Trump is the one who behaved like a fascist at the last debate where he made it very clear his concept of political reality is the victor gets to lock up the loser of the election. That's what a Stalinist would say, not a legit candidate for the American presidency.
But we already know Trump doesn't have the slightest interest in due process nor does he even have a clue about governmental protocols.
He doesn't respect the rule of law. He wants what he wants. His bully pulpit won't work.
So why should anybody give a damn about him pointing fingers at the 11th hour to save his butt after being a squealing jack ass for months when he claims the FBI can't do their job?
That's right, no one cares except people who like to chant Lock Her Up at Trump rallies
These tactics play directly into the hands of everybody who will continue to marginalize Trump and people like yourself who pass on these kinds of undigested assumptions you call news. It doesn't make a case for taking him seriously. Pinning all hopes on the anecdote that the Justice Dept and the FBI jockeyed over how to handle a case and came to a resolution is not a bombshell.
But the way the obedient link army lemmings behave they act like it is proof of the devil's work! These shrill victory dances over inflated assumptions about small news items has become really tiresome and it trivializes all of you, not just Trump.
This angle of a rigged election is now diminishing him even more. If he had no future in elected office before, well this will seal the deal. Don't you even realize that? I don't think you do.
After he gets pounded into the dirt in November nobody will take him seriously again EXCEPT the 5-10% of Americans who will delude themselves they have a movement and will pay The Donald a subscription fee where they can post endless comments about Crooked Hillary. Meanwhile the demographics of 75 year olds yelling Benghazi will yield diminishing returns and even less influence over time.
You are the marketing target in a Brietbart-directed initiative which is an intended marginalization of Trump into a condensed target group they can turn into cash money. They did market research and they are honing their slogans for the final weeks of the campaign that will be most marketable post-election.
They want your money, not your vote, but you still haven't figured that out. The "Rigged Election" is a slogan for their advertising campaign, not an act of moral courage or conviction and you guys repeat it slavishly without a clue as to why they are pushing this angle now. These are marketers, not legislators.
You will never gain any power in the political process thinking like you do or backing scoundrels like Trump. No, don't bother telling me about Hillary in response. At least she's politically viable regardless of what you think of her. Trump definitely is not. He's never running for office again unless you haven't already caught on.
We had him pegged a long time ago. He really just wants to move on to his media career. It is not a political strategy. It is a promo for the next TV season where him and his guests will then babble incessantly about a rigged system and then cut to a commercial break. He is playing this like a sure loser and the rigged election theme is his new rallying cry for the constituency he wants to milk for advertising dollars on Trump News TV.
This has nothing to do with justice or integrity. It has everything to do with Trump conceding the election and planning for the next chapter in his entertainment career. If you think it is actually seriousness on display, then you got played once again. He's a con man and you're his puppet. He wants your eyeballs so he can monetize them. That is who Trump is. He uses people just like he uses you.
There is no one more cynical than Trump. I do believe you are probably sincere. But you pinned your hopes on the tail of a jack ass. The projections you and others make unto Trump are delusional. He is not your leader. Snap out of it! Go find someone who will actually represent you. Trump is nothing but a con man. Instead of being insulted, go look for a better solution, because man you picked the biggest loser in America to represent you. He's a joke.
Trump rolled all of you. He's hoping he'll get to laugh his way to the bank with his pundits and media subscriptions. Based on the way his trolling base is so rabid, I'd guess there's some serious money to be made by getting 3% of Americans to pay Trump $10 a month to listen to him and his choir. That's what you signed up for when you backed Trump. He just wanted to be an ever bigger celebrity and he got his wish at the expense of your idealism. Don't be a sucker.
Been working all day, wasn't ignoring you and I don't have time to really get into your post but I'll try to address some of what you say, but first, and I've said it before - I'm not a die hard Trump guy, lol. Honest truth, I'm deathly afraid of Clinton getting in the white house.
Any one video can be the straw that breaks the camels back, for either candidate.
Elections have seem rigged, at least in part for years. Anyone remember Florida?
When there is apparent collusion between Hillary and the head of the FBI, yeah, that by definition is a bomb shell. It needs to be openly spoken about, investigated then move on.
Considering you have judged me (and incorrectly at that), I'll just say (kindly), you haven't gotten me figured out.
Just a lesser of two evils thing for me, with Trump being the wild card for actually wanting to change the country, (due to his huge ego and pride) vs. Hillary, who apparently is serving higher (and more corrupt) masters.
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Amsterdam wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:
Let's see if this starts breaking, pretty big for Trump to come out and make a video about the collusioin between FBI, State Dept and Hillary. Word is getting out.
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-video-fbi-documents-hillary-clinton-2016-10?international=true&r=US&IR=T
My questions to you all is the following:
1. There are numerous reports that under this administration, the use of Al Queda has been used extensively in Syria, much like they were used in Afghanistan against Russia. Aren't they our sworn enemy? or Are WE missing something? The arming by a U.S. citizen of an enemy combatant is akin to treason...no?
2. The Saudis arm these same folks buy buying waepons from allies from the stock pile of "acquired" weapons from both Iraq and Libya.
But what really really really. boggles my mind, is how passive and forgiving the citizens of this, our Country have become regarding the support and funding of these guys.
Seems that H.C. is in line with the use of them as proxies, (again see Afghanistan), apparently the missing emails prove this.
So Trump is a loose nut, we all agree, but don't dismiss everything he says. He's highlighting rumors mainstream media doesn't want to touch.
1. It is very clear we created many of these terror groups that we are now fighting. We did create Alqaida in Afghanistan to "fight" the soviets. And I'm not sure how much we helped with ISIS, especially in light of the invasions into Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc.
It really seems like the higlaelian dialectic - problem reaction solution. Some people at the top are, well, the only words I have are evil. They know no boundaries, borders, allegiance, etc.
There is project paperclip and a host of other disgusting projects the government has taken part in on record, and we just assume - that is the past, it isn't happening now, etc. But it just continues.
WWII didn't end the Nazi's, remember, most of them came over and worked for our government and I'm sure some of what we have seen, is just more of their work. Disgusting and I hope enough people high up in the Military and enough regular people eventually take these criminals out of power. And btw, I do think Hillary/Bill (Kissinger, Bush's,etc.) are DEEPLY connected to these criminals.
And yes, Trump is a loose nut, but through all his craziness, immaturity and mostly his big mouth, he is our best chance to get these people out of power, but I really think their connections run deep and are wide. It is going to take more than one person, but Trump has some pretty dark connections (I hear), so hopefully he can start something that should have been started when they took Kennedy out.
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ClydeRules wrote:N8isScofield wrote:ClydeRules wrote:
How do you feel about the rape D Rose committed?
I don't know that Derrick Rose committed a rape. He's in the process of a CIVIL trial and there's plenty of evidence to suggest that whatever went on while not being my cup of tea was consented to. Even when the allegations came out and he was potentially facing criminal charges, he didn't run. There was no white bronco moment. When you're accused of rape and you decide to run into an embassy rather than face the charges levied against you that tells me that you're guilty. Nice try though. Ignore list for you too.
So Rose is presumed innocent by you while Assange is assumed guilty. Interesting!
https://wikileaks.org/Background-and-Documents-on-Attempts-to-Frame-Assange-as-a-Pedophile-and.html?update3
Wikileaks: Background and Documents on Attempts to Frame Assange as a Pedophile and Russias spy
"Here is the description of the plot from Mr Assange’s legal team, the investigative report into the front company and associated correspondence. An unknown entity posing as an internet dating agency prepared an elaborate plot to falsely claim that Julian Assange received US$1M from the Russian government and a second plot to frame him sexually molesting an eight year old girl.
The second plot includes the filing of a fabricated criminal complaint in the Bahamas, a court complaint in the UK and laundering part of the attack through the United Nations. The plot happened durring WikiLeaks’ Hillary Clinton related publications, but the plot may have its first genesis in Mr. Assange’s 16 months litigation against the UK in the UN system, which concluded February 5 (Assange won. UK and Sweden lost & US State Dept tried to pressure the WGAD according to its former Chair, Prof. Mads Andenas)."
And yet those on here continue to allow the mainstream media to brainwash them and mold their thoughts. Wake up people. Assange has the goods, not the lying MSM!
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earthmansurfer wrote:CJackson wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:
Let's see if this starts breaking, pretty big for Trump to come out and make a video about the collusioin between FBI, State Dept and Hillary. Word is getting out.
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-video-fbi-documents-hillary-clinton-2016-10?international=true&r=US&IR=T
It is fairly naive to think Trump making a video is going to have any effect on the election whatsoever
For one, this obnoxious loser tactic of calling the election rigged is turning off everyone except die hards like you
Second, Trump is the one who behaved like a fascist at the last debate where he made it very clear his concept of political reality is the victor gets to lock up the loser of the election. That's what a Stalinist would say, not a legit candidate for the American presidency.
But we already know Trump doesn't have the slightest interest in due process nor does he even have a clue about governmental protocols.
He doesn't respect the rule of law. He wants what he wants. His bully pulpit won't work.
So why should anybody give a damn about him pointing fingers at the 11th hour to save his butt after being a squealing jack ass for months when he claims the FBI can't do their job?
That's right, no one cares except people who like to chant Lock Her Up at Trump rallies
These tactics play directly into the hands of everybody who will continue to marginalize Trump and people like yourself who pass on these kinds of undigested assumptions you call news. It doesn't make a case for taking him seriously. Pinning all hopes on the anecdote that the Justice Dept and the FBI jockeyed over how to handle a case and came to a resolution is not a bombshell.
But the way the obedient link army lemmings behave they act like it is proof of the devil's work! These shrill victory dances over inflated assumptions about small news items has become really tiresome and it trivializes all of you, not just Trump.
This angle of a rigged election is now diminishing him even more. If he had no future in elected office before, well this will seal the deal. Don't you even realize that? I don't think you do.
After he gets pounded into the dirt in November nobody will take him seriously again EXCEPT the 5-10% of Americans who will delude themselves they have a movement and will pay The Donald a subscription fee where they can post endless comments about Crooked Hillary. Meanwhile the demographics of 75 year olds yelling Benghazi will yield diminishing returns and even less influence over time.
You are the marketing target in a Brietbart-directed initiative which is an intended marginalization of Trump into a condensed target group they can turn into cash money. They did market research and they are honing their slogans for the final weeks of the campaign that will be most marketable post-election.
They want your money, not your vote, but you still haven't figured that out. The "Rigged Election" is a slogan for their advertising campaign, not an act of moral courage or conviction and you guys repeat it slavishly without a clue as to why they are pushing this angle now. These are marketers, not legislators.
You will never gain any power in the political process thinking like you do or backing scoundrels like Trump. No, don't bother telling me about Hillary in response. At least she's politically viable regardless of what you think of her. Trump definitely is not. He's never running for office again unless you haven't already caught on.
We had him pegged a long time ago. He really just wants to move on to his media career. It is not a political strategy. It is a promo for the next TV season where him and his guests will then babble incessantly about a rigged system and then cut to a commercial break. He is playing this like a sure loser and the rigged election theme is his new rallying cry for the constituency he wants to milk for advertising dollars on Trump News TV.
This has nothing to do with justice or integrity. It has everything to do with Trump conceding the election and planning for the next chapter in his entertainment career. If you think it is actually seriousness on display, then you got played once again. He's a con man and you're his puppet. He wants your eyeballs so he can monetize them. That is who Trump is. He uses people just like he uses you.
There is no one more cynical than Trump. I do believe you are probably sincere. But you pinned your hopes on the tail of a jack ass. The projections you and others make unto Trump are delusional. He is not your leader. Snap out of it! Go find someone who will actually represent you. Trump is nothing but a con man. Instead of being insulted, go look for a better solution, because man you picked the biggest loser in America to represent you. He's a joke.
Trump rolled all of you. He's hoping he'll get to laugh his way to the bank with his pundits and media subscriptions. Based on the way his trolling base is so rabid, I'd guess there's some serious money to be made by getting 3% of Americans to pay Trump $10 a month to listen to him and his choir. That's what you signed up for when you backed Trump. He just wanted to be an ever bigger celebrity and he got his wish at the expense of your idealism. Don't be a sucker.
Been working all day, wasn't ignoring you and I don't have time to really get into your post but I'll try to address some of what you say, but first, and I've said it before - I'm not a die hard Trump guy, lol. Honest truth, I'm deathly afraid of Clinton getting in the white house.
Any one video can be the straw that breaks the camels back, for either candidate.
Elections have seem rigged, at least in part for years. Anyone remember Florida?
When there is apparent collusion between Hillary and the head of the FBI, yeah, that by definition is a bomb shell. It needs to be openly spoken about, investigated then move on.
Considering you have judged me (and incorrectly at that), I'll just say (kindly), you haven't gotten me figured out.
Just a lesser of two evils thing for me, with Trump being the wild card for actually wanting to change the country, (due to his huge ego and pride) vs. Hillary, who apparently is serving higher (and more corrupt) masters.
I said you were peddling their advertising campaign, which you continue to do. Nobody is more cynical a profiteer than Steve Bannon so it is no wonder a phoney like Trump joined hands with him.
So if you really are interested in Clinton and what they represent to you, then pawning off the Trump campaign's packaged version of reality does not speak of your independence from Trump's shilling.
If you are not a a supporter of Trump and only a critic of Clinton, then why are you acting like a complete dupe?
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earthmansurfer wrote:Amsterdam wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:
Let's see if this starts breaking, pretty big for Trump to come out and make a video about the collusioin between FBI, State Dept and Hillary. Word is getting out.
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-video-fbi-documents-hillary-clinton-2016-10?international=true&r=US&IR=T
My questions to you all is the following:
1. There are numerous reports that under this administration, the use of Al Queda has been used extensively in Syria, much like they were used in Afghanistan against Russia. Aren't they our sworn enemy? or Are WE missing something? The arming by a U.S. citizen of an enemy combatant is akin to treason...no?
2. The Saudis arm these same folks buy buying waepons from allies from the stock pile of "acquired" weapons from both Iraq and Libya.
But what really really really. boggles my mind, is how passive and forgiving the citizens of this, our Country have become regarding the support and funding of these guys.
Seems that H.C. is in line with the use of them as proxies, (again see Afghanistan), apparently the missing emails prove this.
So Trump is a loose nut, we all agree, but don't dismiss everything he says. He's highlighting rumors mainstream media doesn't want to touch.
1. It is very clear we created many of these terror groups that we are now fighting. We did create Alqaida in Afghanistan to "fight" the soviets. And I'm not sure how much we helped with ISIS, especially in light of the invasions into Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc.
It really seems like the higlaelian dialectic - problem reaction solution. Some people at the top are, well, the only words I have are evil. They know no boundaries, borders, allegiance, etc.
There is project paperclip and a host of other disgusting projects the government has taken part in on record, and we just assume - that is the past, it isn't happening now, etc. But it just continues.
WWII didn't end the Nazi's, remember, most of them came over and worked for our government and I'm sure some of what we have seen, is just more of their work. Disgusting and I hope enough people high up in the Military and enough regular people eventually take these criminals out of power. And btw, I do think Hillary/Bill (Kissinger, Bush's,etc.) are DEEPLY connected to these criminals.
And yes, Trump is a loose nut, but through all his craziness, immaturity and mostly his big mouth, he is our best chance to get these people out of power, but I really think their connections run deep and are wide. It is going to take more than one person, but Trump has some pretty dark connections (I hear), so hopefully he can start something that should have been started when they took Kennedy out.
You're right. The U.S. did essentially facilitate the birth of Al Qaeda.
The art of the dark ops were perfected by Republican administrations. The right's hero Reagan was dirtier than dirt with his undisclosed slush funds used to fund rebel wars in South America. That these kinds of missions continue under a democratic administration should come as no surprise so we should be able to agree that when people go bonkers about Clinton destroying the world she is hardly an originator of the conditions that destabilized the ME. She certainly did not create ISIS contrary to claims of her inaction. If anybody should get credit for those honors it goes to the Bush administration.
The U.S. is not a kind government. It aligns itself with "American Interests". Allies are allies because they support "American Interests" and vice versa per the enemies of record.
The kinds of evil some of you guys are flipping out is really old school now. Did we ever really weep for the dead Viet Namese and Cambodians we left in our wake? Kennedy, LBJ, Nixon, Kissenger, they all decimated populations and screwed up our own country in the process with unnecessary cultural divisions over "patriotism".
So I find many of you completely unhinged with your wild yelpings about Clinton the destroyer. I agree with the Iran deal and the work to disarm their nuclear plants. Kerry was on the job for that, but that is totally in Clinton's wheelhouse. But here you have frothing at the mouth Trumpers yelling about WW3 while simultaneously saying we capitulated to Iran. Sorry guys, you can't speak out of both sides of your mouth and expect to be taken seriously.
You want to change things by electing Trump. That's pathetic. Just not to be taken seriously. Yeah, he'll handle our foreign affairs better according to you. What kind of alarmist BS are you shilling when you say just because Clinton is part of the admittedly imperialistic military-industrial estate that Trump will not ruin all of our international relations and leave us in a more combative, isolationist position with nobody to turn to?
Trump will burn all bridges and you consider that the answer? That's your reset button. What a load of horse apples. Trump is psychotic and completely manic and unhinged. Drop the morality schtick for a second and consider that Trump can't focus on anything for more than ten seconds and he only focuses on his grudges and he is a completely juvenile and you want him to run our government. Sorry, but that is rubbish.
No, it is not better than Clinton.
Like I said, cut it out with the juvenile assertions that Trump can do this job. He's an idiot and a loose cannon and he would blow stuff up out of spite. If he could tweet a nuclear strike he would.
Go find a real candidate. Until then, enough with the nonsense that Trump is an alternative.
Sorry, you don't like Clinton. I get it. I don't like imperialistic assassination squads much myself. But Trump is not a candidate and Mrs. Giuliani as Secretary of Defense is simply not an option.
Go find a real candidate next time. You're stuck with Clinton, but don't pretend Trump is an actual alternative.
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http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/hillary-clinton-lesbian-sex-claims-vince-foster-fixer/
Hillary's hit man, sexual trysts with married men and women, smear campaigns, and coverups. Think the media will cover it?
Hillary's hit man, sexual trysts with married men and women, smear campaigns, and coverups. Think the media will cover it?
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ClydeRules wrote:http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/hillary-clinton-lesbian-sex-claims-vince-foster-fixer/
Hillary's hit man, sexual trysts with married men and women, smear campaigns, and coverups. Think the media will cover it?
Did you just post a link to the National Enquirer?
And just like that, the lead has been cut to 8!
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Mike Breen wrote:ClydeRules wrote:http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/hillary-clinton-lesbian-sex-claims-vince-foster-fixer/
Hillary's hit man, sexual trysts with married men and women, smear campaigns, and coverups. Think the media will cover it?
Did you just post a link to the National Enquirer?

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Mike Breen wrote:ClydeRules wrote:http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/hillary-clinton-lesbian-sex-claims-vince-foster-fixer/
Hillary's hit man, sexual trysts with married men and women, smear campaigns, and coverups. Think the media will cover it?
Did you just post a link to the National Enquirer?
One of the periodicals that has apparently endorsed Drumpf...
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Republican HQ firebombed in N.C. Hillary's caustic language caused this to happen. Calling people deplorable and irredeemable disqualifies her from office.
http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/gop-terrorism-firebombing-nc/2016/10/18/id/754093/
Political terrorism!
http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/gop-terrorism-firebombing-nc/2016/10/18/id/754093/
Political terrorism!
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Mike Breen wrote:ClydeRules wrote:http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/hillary-clinton-lesbian-sex-claims-vince-foster-fixer/
Hillary's hit man, sexual trysts with married men and women, smear campaigns, and coverups. Think the media will cover it?
Did you just post a link to the National Enquirer?
A better news source than the NY Times, Politico and CNN who let Hillary veto their articles and pass debate questions to her ahead of time.
"Politico Reporter Sends Story To Hillary Aide For Approval, Admits He’s A ‘Hack’"
http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/17/politico-reporter-sends-story-to-hillary-aide-for-approval-admits-hes-a-hack/
People you must break free of the hold that the mainstream media has on you before its too late. they are in the tank for Hillary and are actually the most important part of her propaganda machine.
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Voter fraud rampant! Don't let the Hillary machine steal this election. You'll be very sorry!
http://www.hannity.com/articles/election-493995/breaking-james-okeefe-releases-second-video-15214373/
http://www.hannity.com/articles/election-493995/breaking-james-okeefe-releases-second-video-15214373/
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ClydeRules wrote:http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/hillary-clinton-lesbian-sex-claims-vince-foster-fixer/
Hillary's hit man, sexual trysts with married men and women, smear campaigns, and coverups. Think the media will cover it?
ClydeRules wrote:Republican HQ firebombed in N.C. Hillary's caustic language caused this to happen. Calling people deplorable and irredeemable disqualifies her from office.
http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/gop-terrorism-firebombing-nc/2016/10/18/id/754093/
Political terrorism!
ClydeRules wrote:Voter fraud rampant! Don't let the Hillary machine steal this election. You'll be very sorry!
http://www.hannity.com/articles/election-493995/breaking-james-okeefe-releases-second-video-15214373/
These sources are a joke.
Why don't you save time and just post Donald Trump's tweets? They have about the same level of journalistic credibility.
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GONYK wrote:ClydeRules wrote:http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/hillary-clinton-lesbian-sex-claims-vince-foster-fixer/
Hillary's hit man, sexual trysts with married men and women, smear campaigns, and coverups. Think the media will cover it?ClydeRules wrote:Republican HQ firebombed in N.C. Hillary's caustic language caused this to happen. Calling people deplorable and irredeemable disqualifies her from office.
http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/gop-terrorism-firebombing-nc/2016/10/18/id/754093/
Political terrorism!ClydeRules wrote:Voter fraud rampant! Don't let the Hillary machine steal this election. You'll be very sorry!
http://www.hannity.com/articles/election-493995/breaking-james-okeefe-releases-second-video-15214373/
These sources are a joke.
Why don't you save time and just post Donald Trump's tweets? They have about the same level of journalistic credibility.
It gets increasingly hard to believe these are not obnoxious teenagers or Soviet chat bots
How can these really be adult human beings?
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earthmansurfer wrote:Amsterdam wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:
Let's see if this starts breaking, pretty big for Trump to come out and make a video about the collusioin between FBI, State Dept and Hillary. Word is getting out.
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-video-fbi-documents-hillary-clinton-2016-10?international=true&r=US&IR=T
My questions to you all is the following:
1. There are numerous reports that under this administration, the use of Al Queda has been used extensively in Syria, much like they were used in Afghanistan against Russia. Aren't they our sworn enemy? or Are WE missing something? The arming by a U.S. citizen of an enemy combatant is akin to treason...no?
2. The Saudis arm these same folks buy buying waepons from allies from the stock pile of "acquired" weapons from both Iraq and Libya.
But what really really really. boggles my mind, is how passive and forgiving the citizens of this, our Country have become regarding the support and funding of these guys.
Seems that H.C. is in line with the use of them as proxies, (again see Afghanistan), apparently the missing emails prove this.
So Trump is a loose nut, we all agree, but don't dismiss everything he says. He's highlighting rumors mainstream media doesn't want to touch.
1. It is very clear we created many of these terror groups that we are now fighting. We did create Alqaida in Afghanistan to "fight" the soviets. And I'm not sure how much we helped with ISIS, especially in light of the invasions into Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc.
It really seems like the higlaelian dialectic - problem reaction solution. Some people at the top are, well, the only words I have are evil. They know no boundaries, borders, allegiance, etc.
There is project paperclip and a host of other disgusting projects the government has taken part in on record, and we just assume - that is the past, it isn't happening now, etc. But it just continues.
WWII didn't end the Nazi's, remember, most of them came over and worked for our government and I'm sure some of what we have seen, is just more of their work. Disgusting and I hope enough people high up in the Military and enough regular people eventually take these criminals out of power. And btw, I do think Hillary/Bill (Kissinger, Bush's,etc.) are DEEPLY connected to these criminals.
And yes, Trump is a loose nut, but through all his craziness, immaturity and mostly his big mouth, he is our best chance to get these people out of power, but I really think their connections run deep and are wide. It is going to take more than one person, but Trump has some pretty dark connections (I hear), so hopefully he can start something that should have been started when they took Kennedy out.
Bro, our ignorance as citizens has no bounds, sadly so.
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BKlutch wrote:ClydeRules wrote:Does anyone doubt for a second that if Trump were the target of the Wikileaks dumps the networks would have a show dedicated just to discussing them 24/7?
A lot of those emails show a smart, considered, highly organized individual. They also give Wall Street a lot of reason to be concerned that she will go after the 1%. All in all, what we've seen is pretty good.
Compare that to sexual abuse and reveling in it, and the contrast becomes even sharper.
Lol, what emails r u referring to? The gut of them are gone, deleted, unrecoverable.
Come on really BK?
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Amsterdam wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:Amsterdam wrote:
My questions to you all is the following:
1. There are numerous reports that under this administration, the use of Al Queda has been used extensively in Syria, much like they were used in Afghanistan against Russia. Aren't they our sworn enemy? or Are WE missing something? The arming by a U.S. citizen of an enemy combatant is akin to treason...no?
2. The Saudis arm these same folks buy buying waepons from allies from the stock pile of "acquired" weapons from both Iraq and Libya.
But what really really really. boggles my mind, is how passive and forgiving the citizens of this, our Country have become regarding the support and funding of these guys.
Seems that H.C. is in line with the use of them as proxies, (again see Afghanistan), apparently the missing emails prove this.
So Trump is a loose nut, we all agree, but don't dismiss everything he says. He's highlighting rumors mainstream media doesn't want to touch.
1. It is very clear we created many of these terror groups that we are now fighting. We did create Alqaida in Afghanistan to "fight" the soviets. And I'm not sure how much we helped with ISIS, especially in light of the invasions into Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc.
It really seems like the higlaelian dialectic - problem reaction solution. Some people at the top are, well, the only words I have are evil. They know no boundaries, borders, allegiance, etc.
There is project paperclip and a host of other disgusting projects the government has taken part in on record, and we just assume - that is the past, it isn't happening now, etc. But it just continues.
WWII didn't end the Nazi's, remember, most of them came over and worked for our government and I'm sure some of what we have seen, is just more of their work. Disgusting and I hope enough people high up in the Military and enough regular people eventually take these criminals out of power. And btw, I do think Hillary/Bill (Kissinger, Bush's,etc.) are DEEPLY connected to these criminals.
And yes, Trump is a loose nut, but through all his craziness, immaturity and mostly his big mouth, he is our best chance to get these people out of power, but I really think their connections run deep and are wide. It is going to take more than one person, but Trump has some pretty dark connections (I hear), so hopefully he can start something that should have been started when they took Kennedy out.
Bro, our ignorance as citizens has no bounds, sadly so.
There is plenty of non-partisan understanding of how the U.S. conducts dirty wars. Let's not pretend Trump is the way to change that. I don't think you are claiming he is, but the desire to change the situation does not validate projecting on to someone like Trump as the solution. Many have done this. Claiming he is what they want him to be. He's an empty shell, a smash and grab marketer, not a man who can govern.
It is one thing to want to end clandestine operations by the U.S.
It is entirely another to claim Trump is safer to the present situation. The U.S. is behaving like this since Manifest Destiny. Not having Clinton in the big seat doesn't undo that. It is an illusion. You need to build an alternative party that wants to take power and dismantle the web of operatives and weapons lobbyists to do that.
What is ignorant is when people claim Trump will change that.
Saying Trump is the answer to over a century of Manifest Destiny is like saying it is time to change our energy consumption and carbon emissions so let's unplug from the electrical grid and power everything with hamster wheels.
People love simple one man solutions just as much as they love one woman villains. Hillary may be a continuation of some really nasty below the belt skullduggery run by special ops, the NSA and the CIA, but acting like she's the root of it and removing her will fix things is being discussed by many hysterical types with no modulation or common sense.
The problem with Trump is the opposite of Hillary though. She won't change most things dramatically, but he is an unprecedented level of ass hole who could initiate all kinds of nightmares. That anyone with a pulse thinks it is safer with him than her is really nuts. That's ignorant.
I can agree on wanting to change many things, but pretending anybody is better than Clinton when that anybody is Trump is ludicrous.
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ClydeRules wrote:Voter fraud rampant! Don't let the Hillary machine steal this election. You'll be very sorry!
http://www.hannity.com/articles/election-493995/breaking-james-okeefe-releases-second-video-15214373/
Yet it's the Russian's that are trying to hack into state election systems, threatening war if Clinton is elected and Wikileaks is only leaking Clinton's emails, but somehow she's the one to be concerned about? What Trump is doing is called transference, but he sucks at it and no one gives a crap what he has to say.






