Knicks not ruling out DRose extension later in the season

[NYKnicksTAPE]

8th best? Really? I think Irving is the only clear cut better PG in the east. Everyone else is either worse or on par with Rose. A case can definitely be made for Lowery, Walker or Thomas but after that you are really pushing it. The difference this year for Rose is that he has clearly taken a step back for the good of the team and is letting the game come to him more rather than forcing the issue. He has Melo and KP to depend on to score the ball but when he has to turn it on he has been clutch down the stretches of games this year.

I'd put Wall above him as well. That would still makes him the sixth best guard in the east. He's not going to find a situation more desirable than this one in free agency. I'm not saying don't pay him, but at the same time the Knicks have to put a cap on how much they give him, he doesn't get to make franchise demands.

Sorry Wall is up there too. He still has to show he can lead his team to wins but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt because the rest of his team suck.

Just because there is 6 guys there does not make him the worst of the 6. I would take him over Walker and Lowery and would put Irving, Thomas and Wall over him at this point in the season. What separates Rose from these guys is the ability to break down a defense off the dribble and create for himself. While a third of Lowery and Walker's offense comes off of assists Rose makes it happen all by himself which makes him more dangerous.

I really don't think it will come down to franchise demands from him or the Knicks trying to low ball him either. This season has been going very well so far with him and the rest of the team. As long as it stays that way and they can make a playoff run I don't see why either side wouldn't work together amicably to make it happen.

I'm sorry, but Lowry, Irving, Wall, Thomas, Walker, and Dragic are clearly better than Rose right now in the East....and there's really no debate about it

[blueNorange]

i just find it funny that some are ignoring the contract year production as if it's not an actual thing.

[DOT]

If Miami starts free falling, we should offer rose for dragic + salary. The heat need to rebuild with bosh probably not playing again.
There is no way rose isn't taking max years near max money.

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Pat Riley would hang up the phone on you before you even finished talking

He may have to keep playing bosh for another season or two, allowing him to dump 21.32 mil in salary would allow him to do wonders with his rebuild. It would be dragic and some guy they don't really want anyway.

They gave up two first rounders for him, they're not gonna just take back an expiring, they can definitely get a first from some team, which would be much more beneficial to them than cap space, since it's a longshot to get free agents to come to a bad team, especially if your best player is Hassan Whiteside

[DOT]

i just find it funny that some are ignoring the contract year production as if it's not an actual thing.

Because contract year only applies to career scrubs who come out of nowhere like LFT, Kent Bazemore, and Miles Plumlee, it's not applicable to every player whose contract is expiring.
Also DRoses numbers are pretty much the same this year as last year, so as long as he stays healthy his production should stay similar

[NYKMentality85]

rose is ranked 36th out of 50 qualified pg's in true shooting percentage

dragic? 16th

Let's be real.

"TS%" is a bologna stat for a player of Rose's style of play. Who doesn't shoot 3's to begin with ala only attempting 1.4 3PT attempts per game. So you can throw your little 3PT #'s out of the window when mentioning Rose & "TS%". It's a skewed statistic.

What about his overall FG% of .458%, which is higher than Goran's? Where's Rose's FG% rank amongst all qualified PG's? The answer would be 11th. Rose is also 11th in FT% compared to Dragic 24th amongst all PG's.

So not only does Rose have a better FG% but also a better FT% when in comparison to Dragic.

But yea, nice way of attempting to use TS% when as an attacking/scoring PG Rose doesn't even shoot 3's (1.4 per gm).

[blueNorange]

rose is ranked 36th out of 50 qualified pg's in true shooting percentage

dragic? 16th

Let's be real.

"TS%" is a bologna stat for a player of Rose's style of play. Who doesn't shoot 3's to begin with ala only attempting 1.4 3PT attempts per game. So you can throw your little 3PT #'s out of the window when mentioning Rose & "TS%". It's a skewed statistic.

What about his overall FG% of .458%, which is higher than Goran's? Where's Rose's FG% rank amongst all qualified PG's? The answer would be 11th. Rose is also 11th in FT% compared to Dragic 24th amongst all PG's.

So not only does Rose have a better FG% but also a better FT% when in comparison to Dragic.

But yea, nice way of attempting to use TS% when as an attacking/scoring PG Rose doesn't even shoot 3's (1.4 per gm).

lmaooooo

okay how about this for you

dragic takes 15.4 shots per game and is averaging 19.3 ppg

rose takes 14.6 shot per game and is averaging 16.8 ppg

the guy that scores more on less shots is always more efficient.

[blueNorange]

also if you're using fg% and ft% as examples to show rose is good, it means he's not good.

[blueNorange]

i just find it funny that some are ignoring the contract year production as if it's not an actual thing.

Because contract year only applies to career scrubs who come out of nowhere like LFT, Kent Bazemore, and Miles Plumlee, it's not applicable to every player whose contract is expiring.
Also DRoses numbers are pretty much the same this year as last year, so as long as he stays healthy his production should stay similar

huh?

contract year applies to anybody in a contract year. both rose and ennings are playing better in previous years, and coincidentally it's during a contract year.

i mean come on. hook, line, and sinker.

[nyk97]

rose is ranked 36th out of 50 qualified pg's in true shooting percentage

dragic? 16th

Let's be real.

"TS%" is a bologna stat for a player of Rose's style of play. Who doesn't shoot 3's to begin with ala only attempting 1.4 3PT attempts per game. So you can throw your little 3PT #'s out of the window when mentioning Rose & "TS%". It's a skewed statistic.

What about his overall FG% of .458%, which is higher than Goran's? Where's Rose's FG% rank amongst all qualified PG's? The answer would be 11th. Rose is also 11th in FT% compared to Dragic 24th amongst all PG's.

So not only does Rose have a better FG% but also a better FT% when in comparison to Dragic.

But yea, nice way of attempting to use TS% when as an attacking/scoring PG Rose doesn't even shoot 3's (1.4 per gm).

lmaooooo

okay how about this for you

dragic takes 15.4 shots per game and is averaging 19.3 ppg

rose takes 14.6 shot per game and is averaging 16.8 ppg

the guy that scores more on less shots is always more efficient.

[blueNorange]

Let's be real.

"TS%" is a bologna stat for a player of Rose's style of play. Who doesn't shoot 3's to begin with ala only attempting 1.4 3PT attempts per game. So you can throw your little 3PT #'s out of the window when mentioning Rose & "TS%". It's a skewed statistic.

What about his overall FG% of .458%, which is higher than Goran's? Where's Rose's FG% rank amongst all qualified PG's? The answer would be 11th. Rose is also 11th in FT% compared to Dragic 24th amongst all PG's.

So not only does Rose have a better FG% but also a better FT% when in comparison to Dragic.

But yea, nice way of attempting to use TS% when as an attacking/scoring PG Rose doesn't even shoot 3's (1.4 per gm).

lmaooooo

okay how about this for you

dragic takes 15.4 shots per game and is averaging 19.3 ppg

rose takes 14.6 shot per game and is averaging 16.8 ppg

the guy that scores more on less shots is always more efficient.

yeah, you totally confused yourself. read the post one more time.

[nyk97]

also dragic is only averaging a couple more points than rose while averaging 2 made threes a game as to roses .4

[nyk97]

lmaooooo

okay how about this for you

dragic takes 15.4 shots per game and is averaging 19.3 ppg

rose takes 14.6 shot per game and is averaging 16.8 ppg

the guy that scores more on less shots is always more efficient.

yeah, you totally confused yourself. read the post one more time.

your arguement is that dragic scores more on less shots lmao but doesnt take less shots? how bout you take a seat and read your own post one more time.

[DOT]

i just find it funny that some are ignoring the contract year production as if it's not an actual thing.

Because contract year only applies to career scrubs who come out of nowhere like LFT, Kent Bazemore, and Miles Plumlee, it's not applicable to every player whose contract is expiring.
Also DRoses numbers are pretty much the same this year as last year, so as long as he stays healthy his production should stay similar

huh?

contract year applies to anybody in a contract year. both rose and ennings are playing better in previous years, and coincidentally it's during a contract year.

i mean come on. hook, line, and sinker.

We've had this argument before, man. Not every player in a contract year regresses, and coincidentally, this is the first year Rose hasn't had a major injury to recover from
And Jennings was still recovering from the Achilles injury last year too
but nope, it's only because they're in a contract year that they're doing better

[blueNorange]

yeah, you totally confused yourself. read the post one more time.

your arguement is that dragic scores more on less shots lmao but doesnt take less shots? how bout you take a seat and read your own post one more time.

i'll break it down for you with basic math, let's round to the nearest tenth

dragic, 15 shots attempted and 19 points scored
rose, 15 shots attempted and 17 points scored

is this easier to understand?

[blueNorange]

Because contract year only applies to career scrubs who come out of nowhere like LFT, Kent Bazemore, and Miles Plumlee, it's not applicable to every player whose contract is expiring.
Also DRoses numbers are pretty much the same this year as last year, so as long as he stays healthy his production should stay similar

huh?

contract year applies to anybody in a contract year. both rose and ennings are playing better in previous years, and coincidentally it's during a contract year.

i mean come on. hook, line, and sinker.

We've had this argument before, man. Not every player in a contract year regresses, and coincidentally, this is the first year Rose hasn't had a major injury to recover from
And Jennings was still recovering from the Achilles injury last year too
but nope, it's only because they're in a contract year that they're doing better

yes, thanks for understanding me. hope you got everything you asked santa

[DOT]

huh?

contract year applies to anybody in a contract year. both rose and ennings are playing better in previous years, and coincidentally it's during a contract year.

i mean come on. hook, line, and sinker.

We've had this argument before, man. Not every player in a contract year regresses, and coincidentally, this is the first year Rose hasn't had a major injury to recover from
And Jennings was still recovering from the Achilles injury last year too
but nope, it's only because they're in a contract year that they're doing better

yes, thanks for understanding me. hope you got everything you asked santa

you never fail to crack me up
never change BnO

[nyk97]

yeah, you totally confused yourself. read the post one more time.

your arguement is that dragic scores more on less shots lmao but doesnt take less shots? how bout you take a seat and read your own post one more time.

i'll break it down for you with basic math, let's round to the nearest tenth

dragic, 15 shots attempted and 19 points scored
rose, 15 shots attempted and 17 points scored

is this easier to understand?

gotcha, misunderstood. so how about we account for made threes as well. dragic makes 2 threes a game and only averages 2 more points.

[blueNorange]

your arguement is that dragic scores more on less shots lmao but doesnt take less shots? how bout you take a seat and read your own post one more time.

i'll break it down for you with basic math, let's round to the nearest tenth

dragic, 15 shots attempted and 19 points scored
rose, 15 shots attempted and 17 points scored

is this easier to understand?

gotcha, misunderstood. so how about we account for made threes as well. dragic makes 2 threes a game and only averages 2 more points.

he's still more efficient than rose.

[whocares1]

i'll break it down for you with basic math, let's round to the nearest tenth

dragic, 15 shots attempted and 19 points scored
rose, 15 shots attempted and 17 points scored

is this easier to understand?

gotcha, misunderstood. so how about we account for made threes as well. dragic makes 2 threes a game and only averages 2 more points.

he's still more efficient than rose.

It's a shame that people here dismiss a stat that most analysts feel is the most important offensive stat. Dragic is not only more efficient, but his three point shot increases floor spacing making it more difficult on the defense.

[3toheadmelo]

“I felt the lane was wide open and he made a great contest,” said Rose, who has scored a combined 42 points in his two games back. “I saw the lane wide open. I could’ve easily just tried to lay it up, but at the Garden, they make you feel a certain way.

Let's get it rose