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2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1081 » by BallSacBounce » Tue Nov 3, 2020 2:55 am

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Polk377 wrote:President Trump has on numerous occasions stated that these cities or states could do whatever they want but the Federal Government won't needlessly bail them out of their own radical problems. You can be a sanctuary city if you want but don't expect us to give you money that should be going to our citizens for your agenda. You can have "peaceful protests" if you want but don't expect the federal government to pay for the cleanup of the looting and rioting you are allowing to go on in these Cities. Again not the Federal Government's responsibility.
Always interesting to see this argument. Democratic run states aren't asking for a bailout due to lawlessness. There asking for federal help because at the beginning of the pandemic, they had to bid against themselves and be price gauge for PPE and ventilators because as a nation we didn't even have enough of it.

Knowing the 1st case of covid was in early February. The federal govt didn't begin to secure and restock PPE and ventilators until the end of March, beginning of April. Basically 30 days later, and by then it was too late and pandemic was already widespread and over whelmed the health care system.

Then to top all that off, failed to pass a 2nd stimulus under the guise of "The lawless democratic run cities don't deserve a bailout" FOH....


McDonald Trump panicked and many americans have suffered for it, and tomorrow the roosters come home to roast.

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The roosters will come home to roost alright. Nancy bet everything and lost. She bet on Trump caving to bailing out Dem State Pension funds to get the stimulus and the economy going but it got moving anyway to a record growth GDP 33%.

When Biden loses she will have **** Dem States but good with voluntarily shattered economies and mounting pension obligations that cannot be paid because of it.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1082 » by BallSacBounce » Tue Nov 3, 2020 2:59 am

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Before you conveniently change subjects, shouldn’t you provide some evidence of black lives matter protests spreading coronavirus if you’re trying to prove that makes don’t work?


The studies weren't done on BLM why would that matter it's not like there is something specific about BLM that would cause a problem. I don't think BLM spread it either.

I consider the assertion that BLM didn't but MAGA did political bullspit.


Man you walked right into this one. You should know better than to answer this without doing your own research.

However, researchers found “no evidence that urban protests reignited Covid-19 case growth during the more than three weeks following protest onset.”


The study’s conclusions are supported by Covid-19 testing data in many of the cities that were home to prevalent protesting. For instance, the Minneapolis Department of Health reported that more than 15,000 people were tested at centers set up in communities affected by the protests, and 1.7% of tests came back positive—below the statewide average of about 3.6%. According to the Washington Post, protest attendees in Minneapolis returned positivity rates of less than 1% and that “officials believe the low infection rates reflect that the protests were outside, that most people wore masks and that people spent most of their time in motion, circulating through the crowd.” NPR reported last week that parties—not protests—are believed to have caused coronavirus spikes in Washington. “We’re finding that the social events and gatherings, these parties where people aren’t wearing masks, are our primary source of infection,” said Erika Lautenbach, a local county Health Department director.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/07/01/research-determines-protests-did-not-cause-spike-in-coronavirus-cases/

You won’t see these studies on the **** sources that you use because they’re doing nothing but feeding you propaganda and misinformation. The research is clear and Trump’s rallies have been traced to increase in covid cases and deaths. And it makes sense because Trump is an irresponsible idiot who couldn’t protect himself and his own whitehouse from covid.... if you don’t believe me just ask Hermain Cain

I didn't walk right into anything I was referring to the mask studies not being done on BLM. Couldn't care less what your fake **** says anyway.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1083 » by BKlutch » Tue Nov 3, 2020 3:02 am

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bigtimeRC3 wrote:if you want this country to be like china, then vote for joe biden.



Um, sure, fella. Like Trump didn't hurt all of us with his trumped up trade war he lost to China, and begging Xi to help him get reelected.

This is really funny!


Keep in mind this is who he’s posting

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I never see them complaining when police take justice into their own hands and shoot people when there is no justification. That's authoritarianism. Complaining when "white people" are told to wear masks for the safety of everybody looks pretty racist to me under these circumstances. People who create these tweets have no thoughts of fairness, morality, or human decency. They want only to convince others through manipulation, lies, and fears to come to their side. Recently, a new thing has been happening: people are seeing their written hatred spewing from their mouths and deciding to vote against those who enable them.

So if Trump loses, it will not be because people disagree with his politics (whatever they may be). It will be because they disagree with his inhumanity, narcissim, uncaring destruction of the things we most cherish about our country, and his seemingly gleeful attempts at pitting neighbor against neighbor, and family member against family member, all for his craven economic and political benefit.

People have begun to see what is happening and what is happening is not good for Trump — but it is good for America.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1084 » by Pointgod » Tue Nov 3, 2020 3:19 am

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Pointgod wrote:Clyde this one is for you buddy. I still think Trump wins Florida despite your best efforts but this is encouraging.

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Is Nate really still quoting polls?
We have like actual votes and stuff.
Sad.


Ummm Ballsac how are we supposed to know who the actual voters voted for before the election counts have started?
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1085 » by bigfnjoe96 » Tue Nov 3, 2020 3:29 am

BallSacBounce wrote:The roosters will come home to roost alright. Nancy bet everything and lost. She bet on Trump caving to bailing out Dem State Pension funds to get the stimulus and the economy going but it got moving anyway to a record growth GDP 33%.

When Biden loses she will have **** Dem States but good with voluntarily shattered economies and mounting pension obligations that cannot be paid because of it.


Well when you have a 5% decrease in the 1st quarter and a record 31% decrease the 2nd quarter, a 33% increase still doesn't put us in a + GDP for 2020, but hey it's all good, cause that BS Trump economic plan is about to get shatted on tomorrow

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1086 » by Pointgod » Tue Nov 3, 2020 3:35 am

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Pointgod wrote:
BKlutch wrote:Um, sure, fella. Like Trump didn't hurt all of us with his trumped up trade war he lost to China, and begging Xi to help him get reelected.

This is really funny!


Keep in mind this is who he’s posting

Read on Twitter


Read on Twitter

I never see them complaining when police take justice into their own hands and shoot people when there is no justification. That's authoritarianism. Complaining when "white people" are told to wear masks for the safety of everybody looks pretty racist to me under these circumstances. People who create these tweets have no thoughts of fairness, morality, or human decency. They want only to convince others through manipulation, lies, and fears to come to their side. Recently, a new thing has been happening: people are seeing their written hatred spewing from their mouths and deciding to vote against those who enable them.

So if Trump loses, it will not be because people disagree with his politics (whatever they may be). It will be because they disagree with his inhumanity, narcissim, uncaring destruction of the things we most cherish about our country, and his seemingly gleeful attempts at pitting neighbor against neighbor, and family member against family member, all for his craven economic and political benefit.

People have begun to see what is happening and what is happening is not good for Trump — but it is good for America.


I think one of the interesting things is the post Trump realignment of people on the far left. They went from calling Trump a full out racist to **** on Democrats like trained seals for the applause of right wing audiences, see also Tulsi Gabbard, Glenn Greenwald. They’re 100% grifters who will continue to **** on Democrats if Biden wins because they’re opportunists trying to make a buck. You’re 100% right though, these people have no morals, sense of fairness or decency. They have no idea how harmful the garbage they spew is. You can’t claim to be a Progressive and then have everything you say legitimize Trump. Hell the Lincoln Project guys have shown more integrity and honesty in their intentions than supposedly left wing people.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1087 » by robillionaire » Tue Nov 3, 2020 3:40 am

Pointgod wrote:
BKlutch wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
Keep in mind this is who he’s posting

Read on Twitter


Read on Twitter

I never see them complaining when police take justice into their own hands and shoot people when there is no justification. That's authoritarianism. Complaining when "white people" are told to wear masks for the safety of everybody looks pretty racist to me under these circumstances. People who create these tweets have no thoughts of fairness, morality, or human decency. They want only to convince others through manipulation, lies, and fears to come to their side. Recently, a new thing has been happening: people are seeing their written hatred spewing from their mouths and deciding to vote against those who enable them.

So if Trump loses, it will not be because people disagree with his politics (whatever they may be). It will be because they disagree with his inhumanity, narcissim, uncaring destruction of the things we most cherish about our country, and his seemingly gleeful attempts at pitting neighbor against neighbor, and family member against family member, all for his craven economic and political benefit.

People have begun to see what is happening and what is happening is not good for Trump — but it is good for America.


I think one of the interesting things is the post Trump realignment of people on the far left. They went from calling Trump a full out racist to **** on Democrats like trained seals for the applause of right wing audiences, see also Tulsi Gabbard, Glenn Greenwald. They’re 100% grifters who will continue to **** on Democrats if Biden wins because they’re opportunists trying to make a buck. You’re 100% right though, these people have no morals, sense of fairness or decency. They have no idea how harmful the garbage they spew is. You can’t claim to be a Progressive and then have everything you say legitimize Trump. Hell the Lincoln Project guys have shown more integrity and honesty in their intentions than supposedly left wing people.


You are pointing out grifters that are not representative of progressives or even leftists and if you think the lincoln project has integrity and honest intentions you are a sucker
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1088 » by Pointgod » Tue Nov 3, 2020 4:08 am

robillionaire wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
BKlutch wrote:I never see them complaining when police take justice into their own hands and shoot people when there is no justification. That's authoritarianism. Complaining when "white people" are told to wear masks for the safety of everybody looks pretty racist to me under these circumstances. People who create these tweets have no thoughts of fairness, morality, or human decency. They want only to convince others through manipulation, lies, and fears to come to their side. Recently, a new thing has been happening: people are seeing their written hatred spewing from their mouths and deciding to vote against those who enable them.

So if Trump loses, it will not be because people disagree with his politics (whatever they may be). It will be because they disagree with his inhumanity, narcissim, uncaring destruction of the things we most cherish about our country, and his seemingly gleeful attempts at pitting neighbor against neighbor, and family member against family member, all for his craven economic and political benefit.

People have begun to see what is happening and what is happening is not good for Trump — but it is good for America.


I think one of the interesting things is the post Trump realignment of people on the far left. They went from calling Trump a full out racist to **** on Democrats like trained seals for the applause of right wing audiences, see also Tulsi Gabbard, Glenn Greenwald. They’re 100% grifters who will continue to **** on Democrats if Biden wins because they’re opportunists trying to make a buck. You’re 100% right though, these people have no morals, sense of fairness or decency. They have no idea how harmful the garbage they spew is. You can’t claim to be a Progressive and then have everything you say legitimize Trump. Hell the Lincoln Project guys have shown more integrity and honesty in their intentions than supposedly left wing people.


You are pointing out grifters that are not representative of progressives or even leftists and if you think the lincoln project has integrity and honest intentions you are a sucker


The Lincoln Project have been honest in trying to exercise Trumpism from the Republican Party. They’re not claiming to be Democrats and they’ve been pretty blatant that once Trump is gone they’ll go back to backing Conservative principles against Democrats. They’ve also gone hard after Senate Republicans which shows that they’re not just paying lip service to taking out Trump. They have a self interest to save their party from the QAnon crazies. Grifters on the left like Tim Poole simply parrot right wing talking points about rioters and looting, how the left is crazy, spreading misinformation about lockdowns etc. They’re not trying to make a better Democratic Party or better America. They’ll continue pushing their right wing talking points about Antifa, the radical left because it sells to the far right who will eat up any bull that fits into their persecution and victim narrative. We have lots of examples in this thread.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1089 » by Jeffrey » Tue Nov 3, 2020 4:14 am

Pointgod wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
I think one of the interesting things is the post Trump realignment of people on the far left. They went from calling Trump a full out racist to **** on Democrats like trained seals for the applause of right wing audiences, see also Tulsi Gabbard, Glenn Greenwald. They’re 100% grifters who will continue to **** on Democrats if Biden wins because they’re opportunists trying to make a buck. You’re 100% right though, these people have no morals, sense of fairness or decency. They have no idea how harmful the garbage they spew is. You can’t claim to be a Progressive and then have everything you say legitimize Trump. Hell the Lincoln Project guys have shown more integrity and honesty in their intentions than supposedly left wing people.


You are pointing out grifters that are not representative of progressives or even leftists and if you think the lincoln project has integrity and honest intentions you are a sucker


The Lincoln Project have been honest in trying to exercise Trumpism from the Republican Party. They’re not claiming to be Democrats and they’ve been pretty blatant that once Trump is gone they’ll go back to backing Conservative principles against Democrats. They’ve also gone hard after Senate Republicans which shows that they’re not just paying lip service to taking out Trump. They have a self interest to save their party from the QAnon crazies. Grifters on the left like Tim Poole simply parrot right wing talking points about rioters and looting, how the left is crazy, spreading misinformation about lockdowns etc. They’re not trying to make a better Democratic Party or better America. They’ll continue pushing their right wing talking points about Antifa, the radical left because it sells to the far right who will eat up any bull that fits into their persecution and victim narrative. We have lots of examples in this thread.


They also said that they will probably never be hired in a Republican party ever again. Steve Schmidt has said it best, GOPers are about WINNING. And that's what he has brought to the Dems this year. He is still my political opposite but I welcome the site of ads punching back and low.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1090 » by DOT » Tue Nov 3, 2020 4:38 am

Pointgod wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
I think one of the interesting things is the post Trump realignment of people on the far left. They went from calling Trump a full out racist to **** on Democrats like trained seals for the applause of right wing audiences, see also Tulsi Gabbard, Glenn Greenwald. They’re 100% grifters who will continue to **** on Democrats if Biden wins because they’re opportunists trying to make a buck. You’re 100% right though, these people have no morals, sense of fairness or decency. They have no idea how harmful the garbage they spew is. You can’t claim to be a Progressive and then have everything you say legitimize Trump. Hell the Lincoln Project guys have shown more integrity and honesty in their intentions than supposedly left wing people.


You are pointing out grifters that are not representative of progressives or even leftists and if you think the lincoln project has integrity and honest intentions you are a sucker


The Lincoln Project have been honest in trying to exercise Trumpism from the Republican Party. They’re not claiming to be Democrats and they’ve been pretty blatant that once Trump is gone they’ll go back to backing Conservative principles against Democrats. They’ve also gone hard after Senate Republicans which shows that they’re not just paying lip service to taking out Trump. They have a self interest to save their party from the QAnon crazies. Grifters on the left like Tim Poole simply parrot right wing talking points about rioters and looting, how the left is crazy, spreading misinformation about lockdowns etc. They’re not trying to make a better Democratic Party or better America. They’ll continue pushing their right wing talking points about Antifa, the radical left because it sells to the far right who will eat up any bull that fits into their persecution and victim narrative. We have lots of examples in this thread.

Seems like you just want to demonize the progressives and are using Tim Poole to do so, despite ample evidence that he does not speak for progressives and is not representative of them as a whole. Almost as if you're dusting off the 2016 playbook and getting the "our candidate only lost cause of the progressives, no other reasons whatsoever" talking points ready.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1091 » by j4remi » Tue Nov 3, 2020 4:45 am

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I think one of the interesting things is the post Trump realignment of people on the far left. They went from calling Trump a full out racist to **** on Democrats like trained seals for the applause of right wing audiences, see also Tulsi Gabbard, Glenn Greenwald. They’re 100% grifters who will continue to **** on Democrats if Biden wins because they’re opportunists trying to make a buck. You’re 100% right though, these people have no morals, sense of fairness or decency. They have no idea how harmful the garbage they spew is. You can’t claim to be a Progressive and then have everything you say legitimize Trump. Hell the Lincoln Project guys have shown more integrity and honesty in their intentions than supposedly left wing people.



:banghead:

:banghead: Tim Pool is a well known right wing grifter, not left. Here's a nice breakdown of a recent podcast he did with an actual leftie who had a hell of an appearance.



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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1092 » by robillionaire » Tue Nov 3, 2020 4:50 am

Pointgod wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
I think one of the interesting things is the post Trump realignment of people on the far left. They went from calling Trump a full out racist to **** on Democrats like trained seals for the applause of right wing audiences, see also Tulsi Gabbard, Glenn Greenwald. They’re 100% grifters who will continue to **** on Democrats if Biden wins because they’re opportunists trying to make a buck. You’re 100% right though, these people have no morals, sense of fairness or decency. They have no idea how harmful the garbage they spew is. You can’t claim to be a Progressive and then have everything you say legitimize Trump. Hell the Lincoln Project guys have shown more integrity and honesty in their intentions than supposedly left wing people.


You are pointing out grifters that are not representative of progressives or even leftists and if you think the lincoln project has integrity and honest intentions you are a sucker


The Lincoln Project have been honest in trying to exercise Trumpism from the Republican Party. They’re not claiming to be Democrats and they’ve been pretty blatant that once Trump is gone they’ll go back to backing Conservative principles against Democrats. They’ve also gone hard after Senate Republicans which shows that they’re not just paying lip service to taking out Trump. They have a self interest to save their party from the QAnon crazies. Grifters on the left like Tim Poole simply parrot right wing talking points about rioters and looting, how the left is crazy, spreading misinformation about lockdowns etc. They’re not trying to make a better Democratic Party or better America. They’ll continue pushing their right wing talking points about Antifa, the radical left because it sells to the far right who will eat up any bull that fits into their persecution and victim narrative. We have lots of examples in this thread.


I agree with some of that, tim pool isn't even on the left he's a proto fascist grifter who once in life described himself as a centrist liberal and decided to take advantage of outrage culture because he saw money in it. he's been palling around with the white supremacists for a long time now. i can't even believe we are talking about him, dude is not relevant in politics or outside twitter. actual progressive politicians have bent over backwards trying to help biden get across the finish line. even many left wing organizations that would never have thought about voting for a democrat but recognize that this election is different have unexpectedly urged people to vote stop this current regime. sure it's true that some of the ones you named have done this and carried water for trump and they deserve criticism but I don't think they are truly representative of the left in the US
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1093 » by robillionaire » Tue Nov 3, 2020 4:56 am

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Pointgod wrote:
I think one of the interesting things is the post Trump realignment of people on the far left. They went from calling Trump a full out racist to **** on Democrats like trained seals for the applause of right wing audiences, see also Tulsi Gabbard, Glenn Greenwald. They’re 100% grifters who will continue to **** on Democrats if Biden wins because they’re opportunists trying to make a buck. You’re 100% right though, these people have no morals, sense of fairness or decency. They have no idea how harmful the garbage they spew is. You can’t claim to be a Progressive and then have everything you say legitimize Trump. Hell the Lincoln Project guys have shown more integrity and honesty in their intentions than supposedly left wing people.


:banghead:

:banghead: Tim Pool is a well known right wing grifter, not left. Here's a nice breakdown of a recent podcast he did with an actual leftie who had a hell of an appearance.



If you're gonna comment on the left, the least you can do is actually know what you're talking about. Using a right winger to represent us while defending Bush cronies that just cashed in your donations to start a media company...Put the soapbox away.



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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1094 » by robillionaire » Tue Nov 3, 2020 4:59 am

K-DOT wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
You are pointing out grifters that are not representative of progressives or even leftists and if you think the lincoln project has integrity and honest intentions you are a sucker


The Lincoln Project have been honest in trying to exercise Trumpism from the Republican Party. They’re not claiming to be Democrats and they’ve been pretty blatant that once Trump is gone they’ll go back to backing Conservative principles against Democrats. They’ve also gone hard after Senate Republicans which shows that they’re not just paying lip service to taking out Trump. They have a self interest to save their party from the QAnon crazies. Grifters on the left like Tim Poole simply parrot right wing talking points about rioters and looting, how the left is crazy, spreading misinformation about lockdowns etc. They’re not trying to make a better Democratic Party or better America. They’ll continue pushing their right wing talking points about Antifa, the radical left because it sells to the far right who will eat up any bull that fits into their persecution and victim narrative. We have lots of examples in this thread.

Seems like you just want to demonize the progressives and are using Tim Poole to do so, despite ample evidence that he does not speak for progressives and is not representative of them as a whole. Almost as if you're dusting off the 2016 playbook and getting the "our candidate only lost cause of the progressives, no other reasons whatsoever" talking points ready.


or won in spite of the progressives, either way we always knew this was coming so it is what it is
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still 

Post#1095 » by Polk377 » Tue Nov 3, 2020 4:59 am

j4remi wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
I think one of the interesting things is the post Trump realignment of people on the far left. They went from calling Trump a full out racist to **** on Democrats like trained seals for the applause of right wing audiences, see also Tulsi Gabbard, Glenn Greenwald. They’re 100% grifters who will continue to **** on Democrats if Biden wins because they’re opportunists trying to make a buck. You’re 100% right though, these people have no morals, sense of fairness or decency. They have no idea how harmful the garbage they spew is. You can’t claim to be a Progressive and then have everything you say legitimize Trump. Hell the Lincoln Project guys have shown more integrity and honesty in their intentions than supposedly left wing people.



:banghead:

:banghead: Tim Pool is a well known right wing grifter, not left. Here's a nice breakdown of a recent podcast he did with an actual leftie who had a hell of an appearance.



If you're gonna comment on the left, the least you can do is actually know what you're talking about. Using a right winger to represent us while defending Bush cronies that just cashed in your donations to start a media company...Put the soapbox away.

:lol: :lol: :lol: Right Wing Grifter. You mean the Occupy Wallstreet guy that was at the forefront of VICE and Fusion. The problem is everyone at the opposition of the left must be a right winger right? In reality most people including true liberals will never support the extremism we are seeing from the left. These are the former Democrat voters the left has alienated and lost.
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