Randle Trade Talk

[Marty McFly]

CJ and his functioning lung is off the table. It's Westbrick or bust to get this anal polyp off our team.




GET IT DONE LEON YOU ORC!

If I'm the Lakers and see this, I laugh and put Leon Rose on ignore. Knicks will need to add, at the very least, 2 unprotected first rounders to dump Randle and Fournier.

Knicks should also explore trading Mitch here as well since Lakers are thin at the 5. That'll get them to listen.

Knicks should've traded Mitch two seasons ago, because whatever the Knicks pay him is going to be overkill for what he has to offer. I like Mitch, but the timing is just wrong here for the Knicks to retain him.

you're overdoing it in regard to Randle's value. Westbrook is having an even worse season than Randle. and Evan is a role player. he's not getting star money.

[moocow007]

Read on Twitter

Pacers also gave up a 2027 2nd.

Hield is slightly negative value, like Fournier.

But I think this indicates at least the Kings see Sabonis as positive value.

Imagine doing this with Randle. I be peeing my pants with joy.

If Sabonis was on the Knicks instead of Randle he'd be Randle.

[moocow007]

CJ and his functioning lung is off the table. It's Westbrick or bust to get this anal polyp off our team.




GET IT DONE LEON YOU ORC!

If I'm the Lakers and see this, I laugh and put Leon Rose on ignore. Knicks will need to add, at the very least, 2 unprotected first rounders to dump Randle and Fournier.

Knicks should also explore trading Mitch here as well since Lakers are thin at the 5. That'll get them to listen.

Knicks should've traded Mitch two seasons ago, because whatever the Knicks pay him is going to be overkill for what he has to offer. I like Mitch, but the timing is just wrong here for the Knicks to retain him.

you're overdoing it in regard to Randle's value. Westbrook is having an even worse season than Randle. and Evan is a role player. he's not getting star money.

Yeah but we HATE Randle so common sense doesn't matter?

[nedleeds]

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Pacers also gave up a 2027 2nd.

Hield is slightly negative value, like Fournier.

But I think this indicates at least the Kings see Sabonis as positive value.

Imagine doing this with Randle. I be peeing my pants with joy.

Except we’re the Kings East

The Knicks traded for Scott Perry.

[Stannis]

you're overdoing it in regard to Randle's value. Westbrook is having an even worse season than Randle. and Evan is a role player. he's not getting star money.

Not at all. His contract goes into 2025/2026. That's a year extra than Anthony's Davis' contract. Things just don't align here and these trade scenarios don't make any sense for the Lakers.

Fournier's contract isn't that bad. But it's still probably a year too much. Everyone on the Laker's but Anthony Davis expires that year. There's other guards they can target. No reason to handicap your salary book for a role player like Fournier.

Listen, I know Westbrooke is having a terrible season. But next year will be his last. That's the worst case scenario for the Lakers. If they trade for Randle, worse case scenario is 4 more years of a guy who lost interest.

If I'm the Lakers, I like my chances better with Westbrooke than risking longer term damage by adding Randle+Fournier and maybe Kemba.

That being said, if the Lakers do trade Westbrooke, it will be for another full-time PG.

I suppose they could try to move LBJ to PG and have Randle start. But I just don't see that happening. Seems very desperate.

[Barcs]

Not to be a d*ck but it’s pretty telling that his wife and son traveled to LA. She has a newborn but needs to tote two kids across country to accompany dad while he throws tantrums?

Idk but to me that screams of a mentally weak and psychologically dysfunctional husband/father if he’s toting his entire family with him on the road, especially a newborn.

Maybe it’s just my culturally out-of-touch take, but you’d think a hundred+ million dollar contract would be enough comfort for him to leave his family at home while he goes to work for a week on the road. Instead we see a grown man throwing tantrums and isolating himself in protest while his wife and kids wait for him afterwards for what? Hugs and kisses? Grow up and do your job, man.

Not trying to talk about his family but...that is a strange fact. Traveling the country...at every home game....with a pandemic that is killing people? He's always fuggin mad. Treats teammates and staff like dirt. Hides from the media. His effort on the court has been trash for most of the year. Something is going on with him.

We really don’t know and it’s probably better we don’t guess. Like this board went crazy over follows I don’t want to see where people go following that train of thought. I don’t think we should start down that slippery slope.

Agreed. None of us know what's going on here, and everybody is jumping to the worst possible conclusions at every turn. It's possible he's got an undisclosed injury, or going through some mental issues. We don't know.

It's crazy how quickly Knicks fans give up on their players and coaches. I get that we are used to disappointment, but we need to be better than that.

[DaGawd]

A lot of words and hopes were wasted in this here thread.

[WargamesX]

I find the idea we will be stuck watching Randle for 4 years Repugnant because he tanked his value not with his gameplay but the off the wall antics…. Smh

[Jalen Bluntson]

Not trying to talk about his family but...that is a strange fact. Traveling the country...at every home game....with a pandemic that is killing people? He's always fuggin mad. Treats teammates and staff like dirt. Hides from the media. His effort on the court has been trash for most of the year. Something is going on with him.

We really don’t know and it’s probably better we don’t guess. Like this board went crazy over follows I don’t want to see where people go following that train of thought. I don’t think we should start down that slippery slope.

Agreed. None of us know what's going on here, and everybody is jumping to the worst possible conclusions at every turn. It's possible he's got an undisclosed injury, or going through some mental issues. We don't know.

It's crazy how quickly Knicks fans give up on their players and coaches. I get that we are used to disappointment, but we need to be better than that.

Half the board didn't want Randle/Thibs at all. Not sure what "how quickly we give up on players/coaches" means in this context.

As for Randle....something is up with this dude. There is no debate to be had. He's either just a doosh. Or something else is going on with him. Clear as day. He needs anger management and maybe he just needs to grow up. Something is not right with him.

[nykfan42]

We really don’t know and it’s probably better we don’t guess. Like this board went crazy over follows I don’t want to see where people go following that train of thought. I don’t think we should start down that slippery slope.

Agreed. None of us know what's going on here, and everybody is jumping to the worst possible conclusions at every turn. It's possible he's got an undisclosed injury, or going through some mental issues. We don't know.

It's crazy how quickly Knicks fans give up on their players and coaches. I get that we are used to disappointment, but we need to be better than that.

Half the board didn't want Randle/Thibs at all. Not sure what "how quickly we give up on players/coaches" means in this context.

As for Randle....something is up with this dude. There is no debate to be had. He's either just a doosh. Or something else is going on with him. Clear as day. He needs anger management and maybe he just needs to grow up. Something is not right with him.

He’s just a fraud scumbag.

[Jeffrey]

So this is Randle's 3rd straight good game. I hope one god damn exec sees this and say maybe he needs a change of scenery.

[robillionaire]

[nykfan42]

Why's this loser still on the team?

[DaGawd]

Shut it down lol

[3toheadmelo]

mood!

[NowWHYcee7]

Lock this thread up. It’s stupid.

[moocow007]

We really don’t know and it’s probably better we don’t guess. Like this board went crazy over follows I don’t want to see where people go following that train of thought. I don’t think we should start down that slippery slope.

Agreed. None of us know what's going on here, and everybody is jumping to the worst possible conclusions at every turn. It's possible he's got an undisclosed injury, or going through some mental issues. We don't know.

It's crazy how quickly Knicks fans give up on their players and coaches. I get that we are used to disappointment, but we need to be better than that.

Half the board didn't want Randle/Thibs at all. Not sure what "how quickly we give up on players/coaches" means in this context.

As for Randle....something is up with this dude. There is no debate to be had. He's either just a doosh. Or something else is going on with him. Clear as day. He needs anger management and maybe he just needs to grow up. Something is not right with him.

PTSD from the Hawks series most likely.

[oldshoolballer]

Katz:

https://theathletic.com/3117808/2022/02/08/knicks-nba-trade-deadline-primer-are-kemba-walker-and-evan-fournier-most-likely-to-go/

Randle’s value

Randle, whose four-year extension kicks in next season, insists he is committed to the Knicks. The team may reciprocate the sentiment, if only because they have no other choice.

The reality is, other front offices see what has happened this season, and they are not inundating the Knicks with calls about their top player. Randle’s jump shot has regressed; his efficiency has cratered; his defense and energy have been problematic; and he’s fallen off a season after winning the NBA Most Improved Player and making second-team All-NBA.

The four-year, $117 million extension is not as detrimental as it looks at first glance. For example, his $26.1 million salary next season is only the NBA’s 48th-largest one for 2022-23 — and it will drop a little lower on the list after a few big-time free agents sign expensive, new contracts this summer.

Yet, Randle has fallen off so dramatically this season that the extension is intimidating to other teams. And it’s not so much the dollars as it is the years. The contract runs through 2026

“I don’t see anyone giving up anything of value for him,” one rival executive said. And it’s hard to imagine the Knicks dealing him without a decent return.

Trading Randle now would mean moving on at his lowest point, which is no way to do business. The Knicks would be better off trying to rebuild him. Even if he doesn’t improve at all, if this version of Randle is just the player he is for the rest of his career, the contract will eventually look better. Remember, each day that passes makes that deal one day shorter.

What a depressing read.

4 more years of spin cycle hell.

[Spree2Houston]

Let’s take a break. We’ll continue this discussion in the off-season

[stuporman]

Who would have done Randle for KP?
Admit it, even with the bad blood and injury concerns who here would have done it?

Be honest... o/