OT: Joe Biden has withdrawn from the US Presidential race

[KnixinSix]

And with the measure you judge you shall be judged.

Y'all always say this like it's a threat lol

If your god exists, he can judge me as I judge others. That would only be fair. You're afraid of him judging you as you judge others.

I don't say it as a threat at all bro . I say it as my reality. Forgive as we have been forgiven.

In that shelter after I saw Christ (the new reality of Son ship) , I said God I am going to have a relationship with you but my family is dead to me they betrayed me. He said Not only are you going to forgive them, You're going to ask for their forgiveness. I said that's impossible Lord! He said you don't do it by feelings you do it by faith, I said, how can I do this? They betrayed me, He said, what did you do to me? I said, oh my goodness, my sin put you on the cross, but you forgave me, you willingly died for me. You didn't hold anything against me.You just love me! And then I forgave my entire family by faith even though my feelings try to say otherwise. I Called them and said I forgive you, but even more importantly Ask for your forgiveness because I Held bitterness in my heart against you. But Jesus never held bitterness in his heart against me regardless of what I did, he just willingly died for me because he loves me.

There is no greater love than this than one lay is life down for his friends.

[Neutral 123]

A lot of people think that, but I disagree.

Many Democratic and liberal programs and ideas are very much in line with Christianity. Feed the poor, shelter the homeless, care for the sick, love thy neighbor. These are fundamentally Christian ideas.

I think the democratic party is the more Christian party. They have worse press, and the abortion issue turns off too many, but they're still more Christian overall.

As a religious person, I have a hard time telling someone who's not religious, that they cannot have an abortion. I can try to discourage them, but to pass a law that forbids it. That's not Christian to me.

That's the problem. You blindly follow 'the science' and feel the bible can mean whatever you want it to mean. So much so that even the idea that abortion, which is clearly a states issue, is 'destroying women's rights' because that will be decided more locally.

If you are confused by whether abortion is right or wrong, you can simply look at the cultural outcomes that have resulted from on demand abortion.

The original argument was that they would be safe, rare, and reduce teen pregnancy. The outcome? On demand abortion, demands they are paid for by the taxpayer, lower rates of marriage and the misery that comes from single mother homes.

God commands us to be charitable, not be forced to give up whatever the state demands and only witness these problems get worse.

To have a prosperous society you must have a moral society. Dem policies foster a low trust, immoral, selfish and entitled society.

Wait, how do abortions lead to single mother homes? Lol

And you, a true capitalist and Randhead, have no right to lecture people about morality. Capitalism is the antithesis of morality.

Abortions are part of a free sex culture. The same race of women with the highest rates of abortion, also have the lowest rates of marriage. That's only a surprise to miseducated atheist.

[Fury]

That's the problem. You blindly follow 'the science' and feel the bible can mean whatever you want it to mean. So much so that even the idea that abortion, which is clearly a states issue, is 'destroying women's rights' because that will be decided more locally.

If you are confused by whether abortion is right or wrong, you can simply look at the cultural outcomes that have resulted from on demand abortion.

The original argument was that they would be safe, rare, and reduce teen pregnancy. The outcome? On demand abortion, demands they are paid for by the taxpayer, lower rates of marriage and the misery that comes from single mother homes.

God commands us to be charitable, not be forced to give up whatever the state demands and only witness these problems get worse.

To have a prosperous society you must have a moral society. Dem policies foster a low trust, immoral, selfish and entitled society.

Wait, how do abortions lead to single mother homes? Lol

And you, a true capitalist and Randhead, have no right to lecture people about morality. Capitalism is the antithesis of morality.

Abortions are part of a free sex culture. The same race of women with the highest rates of abortion, also have the lowest rates of marriage. That's only a surprise to miseducated atheist.

You didn’t answer the question.

[Neutral 123]

This garbage again? Christians don't hold the market on morality. Take this BS out of here you hypocrite. Trump has NO MORALS AT ALL and you support him. You are worse than a satanist and you are also a liar. STFU and GTFO with

Every single majority position of the atheist is opposite that of the Christian view. That can't be a coincidence can it? And yes, calling good evil and evil good, is a moral take I suppose.

Christian morality has no place in politics. It is a biased and extorted POV that seeks to eliminate any other POV and has been used to justify horrific crimes against humanity and is as hypocritical as it gets. Tell the churches to pay taxes and get back to me.

Now this is closer to the truth. You hate Christianity, feel it's biased (whatever that is supposed to mean lol), and want your views of right and wrong imposed.

This whole thread has been an exercise in morality. I disagree with most of what those on the left have said, and as a result, I'm not merely mistaken, but apparently I'm in atheist sin and have been labeled as a blasphemer, a racist, a fascist etc. Someone's right and wrong must be the law of the land. You don't need to go to church or real the Bible, but we don't want Satan's ways ruling America.

[DOT]

And with the measure you judge you shall be judged.

Y'all always say this like it's a threat lol

If your god exists, he can judge me as I judge others. That would only be fair. You're afraid of him judging you as you judge others.

I don't say it as a threat at all . I say it as my reality. Forgive as you have been forgiven.

In that shelter after I saw Christ (the new reality of Son ship) , I said God I am going to have a relationship with you but my family is dead to me they betrayed me. He said Not only are you going to forgive them, You're going to ask for their forgiveness. I said that's impossible Lord! He said you don't do it by feelings you do it by faith, I said, how can I do this? They betrayed me, He said, what did you do to me? I said, oh my goodness, my sin put you on the cross, but you forgave me, you willingly died for me. You didn't hold anything against me.You just love me! And then I forgave my entire family by faith even though my feelings try to say otherwise. I Called them and said I forgive you, but even more importantly Ask for your forgiveness because I Held bitterness in my heart against you. But Jesus never held bitterness in his heart against me regardless of what I did, he just willingly died for me because he loves me.

There is no greater love than this than one lay is life down for his friends.

And yet you vote for and rabidly support the party that does not extend this forgiveness to others

Because you are a hypocrite, the modern day Pharisee.

[Neutral 123]

Wait, how do abortions lead to single mother homes? Lol

And you, a true capitalist and Randhead, have no right to lecture people about morality. Capitalism is the antithesis of morality.

Abortions are part of a free sex culture. The same race of women with the highest rates of abortion, also have the lowest rates of marriage. That's only a surprise to miseducated atheist.

You didn’t answer the question.

A permissive sexual culture seeks abortions as a way to erase the consequences of sex. Abortions, a diminishing of the importance of marriage are all part of that selfish culture. That is why the women with the highest rates of abortion, also have the highest rates of babies born without marriage and the lowest rates of marriage.

[Neutral 123]

Y'all always say this like it's a threat lol

If your god exists, he can judge me as I judge others. That would only be fair. You're afraid of him judging you as you judge others.

I don't say it as a threat at all . I say it as my reality. Forgive as you have been forgiven.

In that shelter after I saw Christ (the new reality of Son ship) , I said God I am going to have a relationship with you but my family is dead to me they betrayed me. He said Not only are you going to forgive them, You're going to ask for their forgiveness. I said that's impossible Lord! He said you don't do it by feelings you do it by faith, I said, how can I do this? They betrayed me, He said, what did you do to me? I said, oh my goodness, my sin put you on the cross, but you forgave me, you willingly died for me. You didn't hold anything against me.You just love me! And then I forgave my entire family by faith even though my feelings try to say otherwise. I Called them and said I forgive you, but even more importantly Ask for your forgiveness because I Held bitterness in my heart against you. But Jesus never held bitterness in his heart against me regardless of what I did, he just willingly died for me because he loves me.

There is no greater love than this than one lay is life down for his friends.

And yet you vote for and rabidly support the party that does not extend this forgiveness to others

Because you are a hypocrite, the modern day Pharisee.

If there's one thing Christians can be certain of, is to never take direction on God's will from those who don't believe.

[Fury]

Abortions are part of a free sex culture. The same race of women with the highest rates of abortion, also have the lowest rates of marriage. That's only a surprise to miseducated atheist.

You didn’t answer the question.

A permissive sexual culture seeks abortions as a way to erase the consequences of sex. Abortions, a diminishing of the importance of marriage are all part of that selfish culture. That is why the women with the highest rates of abortion, also have the highest rates of babies born without marriage and the lowest rates of marriage.

The same women? Source?

Btw, have you ever had sex? Be honest.

[DOT]

I don't say it as a threat at all . I say it as my reality. Forgive as you have been forgiven.

In that shelter after I saw Christ (the new reality of Son ship) , I said God I am going to have a relationship with you but my family is dead to me they betrayed me. He said Not only are you going to forgive them, You're going to ask for their forgiveness. I said that's impossible Lord! He said you don't do it by feelings you do it by faith, I said, how can I do this? They betrayed me, He said, what did you do to me? I said, oh my goodness, my sin put you on the cross, but you forgave me, you willingly died for me. You didn't hold anything against me.You just love me! And then I forgave my entire family by faith even though my feelings try to say otherwise. I Called them and said I forgive you, but even more importantly Ask for your forgiveness because I Held bitterness in my heart against you. But Jesus never held bitterness in his heart against me regardless of what I did, he just willingly died for me because he loves me.

There is no greater love than this than one lay is life down for his friends.

And yet you vote for and rabidly support the party that does not extend this forgiveness to others

Because you are a hypocrite, the modern day Pharisee.

If there's one thing Christians can be certain of, is to never take direction on God's will from those who don't believe.

Yet you take direction on your god's will from Donald Trump, a man who clearly doesn't believe in your god

Curious.

[Neutral 123]

And with the measure you judge you shall be judged.

Y'all always say this like it's a threat lol

If your god exists, he can judge me as I judge others. That would only be fair. You're afraid of him judging you as you judge others.

I don't say it as a threat at all bro . I say it as my reality. Forgive as we have been forgiven.

In that shelter after I saw Christ (the new reality of Son ship) , I said God I am going to have a relationship with you but my family is dead to me they betrayed me. He said Not only are you going to forgive them, You're going to ask for their forgiveness. I said that's impossible Lord! He said you don't do it by feelings you do it by faith, I said, how can I do this? They betrayed me, He said, what did you do to me? I said, oh my goodness, my sin put you on the cross, but you forgave me, you willingly died for me. You didn't hold anything against me.You just love me! And then I forgave my entire family by faith even though my feelings try to say otherwise. I Called them and said I forgive you, but even more importantly Ask for your forgiveness because I Held bitterness in my heart against you. But Jesus never held bitterness in his heart against me regardless of what I did, he just willingly died for me because he loves me.

There is no greater love than this than one lay is life down for his friends.

That is beautiful testimony. That is love. God's love. Sadly, atheists hate the idea of forgiveness.

[MrDollarBills]

Unfortunately it is

Donald Trump is the golden calf of the evangelicals, the one they worship now in place of their god

It is impossible to separate religion from politics at this point because they made their religion political. Though I guess that's always been the case with Europe and European descended countries, we just like to pretend it isn't sometimes.

Once the GOP started giving the old reach around to White Southern Evangelicals 45+ years ago, there has been no avoiding it.

I think religion should have f*ck all to do with politics and government. Faith and worship beliefs should be contained to said places of worship. Believe in what you want, but don't impose your beliefs on the next person and respect their right to practice whatever religion they want, or, their right to not subscribe to any belief at all.

The religion of rape apologia seems to be the rage nowadays.

It is kind of funny, how when it comes to someone they agree with politically it doesn't matter how many rules they break, they forgive them

But they're the first ones to rally around increasing punishments and hardening the laws to throw more people in jail

Because they're hypocrites lol. Even this one preaching on this site, the bible explicitly says praying loudly in public and showing off how good of a person you are gets you no points and you should pray behind closed doors in private.

Watch on YouTube

[DOT]

Once the GOP started giving the old reach around to White Southern Evangelicals 45+ years ago, there has been no avoiding it.

I think religion should have f*ck all to do with politics and government. Faith and worship beliefs should be contained to said places of worship. Believe in what you want, but don't impose your beliefs on the next person and respect their right to practice whatever religion they want, or, their right to not subscribe to any belief at all.

The religion of rape apologia seems to be the rage nowadays.

It is kind of funny, how when it comes to someone they agree with politically it doesn't matter how many rules they break, they forgive them

But they're the first ones to rally around increasing punishments and hardening the laws to throw more people in jail

Because they're hypocrites lol. Even this one preaching on this site, the bible explicitly says praying loudly in public and showing off how good of a person you are gets you no points and you should pray behind closed doors in private.

Watch on YouTube

Always a classic:

https://www.beliefnet.com/news/2003/09/the-gospel-of-supply-side-jesus.aspx

[Neutral 123]

You didn’t answer the question.

A permissive sexual culture seeks abortions as a way to erase the consequences of sex. Abortions, a diminishing of the importance of marriage are all part of that selfish culture. That is why the women with the highest rates of abortion, also have the highest rates of babies born without marriage and the lowest rates of marriage.

The same women? Source?

Btw, have you ever had sex? Be honest.

Take a deep breath. I'm not looking for a boyfriend if that is what you are asking. I've made my point crystal clear. A societal view that says there's nothing wrong with casual sex will demand abortion as a way to try and erase the consequences of sex. The result of a sexually permissive culture cannot be erased. That is why despite all these killings, we still have a society with low marriage rates and high rates of single motherhood.

The justification for legalizing abortion was that it would lead to the opposite outcome. Of course they were wrong as leftists are always wrong. A godless foundation can only produce evil.

[Fury]

A permissive sexual culture seeks abortions as a way to erase the consequences of sex. Abortions, a diminishing of the importance of marriage are all part of that selfish culture. That is why the women with the highest rates of abortion, also have the highest rates of babies born without marriage and the lowest rates of marriage.

The same women? Source?

Btw, have you ever had sex? Be honest.

Take a deep breath. I'm not looking for a boyfriend if that is what you are asking. I've made my point crystal clear. A societal view that says there's nothing wrong with casual sex will demand abortion as a way to try and erase the consequences of sex. The result of a sexually permissive culture cannot be erased. That is why despite all these killings, we still have a society with low marriage rates and high rates of single motherhood.

The justification for legalizing abortion was that it would lead to the opposite outcome. Of course they were wrong as leftists are always wrong. A godless foundation can only produce evil.

That’s not what I’m asking. I’m asking if you’ve ever had sex? I need you to answer this so I can make my point.

[Ghetto Gospel]

NGL, seeing religion being forced upon people in that Project 2025 proposal was kinda crazy. Dunno why those people feel those ideas should be brought into politics

anytime someone votes for a specific policy, they're forcing things onto people that disagree with the policy, religion or otherwise.

there are certain religions that form a basis for objective morality. for example, in christianity, if an omnipotent and omniscient god were to truly exist and say that x is good and y is bad, the believer must believe that to be true. after all, how much can a human truly know in comparison?

they're just voting based on what they view as good or bad, same as me and you.

it's just extremely hypocritical to support trump simultaneously

[MrDollarBills]

Abortions are part of a free sex culture. The same race of women with the highest rates of abortion, also have the lowest rates of marriage. That's only a surprise to miseducated atheist.

You didn’t answer the question.

A permissive sexual culture seeks abortions as a way to erase the consequences of sex. Abortions, a diminishing of the importance of marriage are all part of that selfish culture. That is why the women with the highest rates of abortion, also have the highest rates of babies born without marriage and the lowest rates of marriage.

Care to expound on this? Or are you too chicken sh*t to let your racism fly without the less than subtle dog whistles?

[Neutral 123]

And yet you vote for and rabidly support the party that does not extend this forgiveness to others

Because you are a hypocrite, the modern day Pharisee.

If there's one thing Christians can be certain of, is to never take direction on God's will from those who don't believe.

Yet you take direction on your god's will from Donald Trump, a man who clearly doesn't believe in your god

Curious.

I take direction from God. One party is openly proclaiming they are doing the work of Satan. I can't think of a single idea leftists have that isn't antithetical to God's word. In fact, most of them openly state their hatred of God. What are we even debating here? That is the general position of the left. They vacillate between saying God is evil and claiming He doesn't exist. That is the mind of the leftist.

[Neutral 123]

The same women? Source?

Btw, have you ever had sex? Be honest.

Take a deep breath. I'm not looking for a boyfriend if that is what you are asking. I've made my point crystal clear. A societal view that says there's nothing wrong with casual sex will demand abortion as a way to try and erase the consequences of sex. The result of a sexually permissive culture cannot be erased. That is why despite all these killings, we still have a society with low marriage rates and high rates of single motherhood.

The justification for legalizing abortion was that it would lead to the opposite outcome. Of course they were wrong as leftists are always wrong. A godless foundation can only produce evil.

That’s not what I’m asking. I’m asking if you’ve ever had sex? I need you to answer this so I can make my point.

I imagine you can make your point without needing to know my sexual history. Let's not be weird.

[robillionaire]

Every single majority position of the atheist is opposite that of the Christian view. That can't be a coincidence can it?

Our majority positions are not the opposite of every “actual” Christian view in fact there are many issues I’d have in common with an actual Christian. But I’m proudly the opposite of the new maga christofascist bastarization of the christian religion. The majority of secular humanists think gay people should exist freely in society, the majority of maga christofascists do not. I do not support rape, the christofascist idolizes a criminal who rapes women brags about sexual assault bears false witness against his sex assault victims and flies with Epstein. I don’t cheat on my wife, the christofascist like a leader who pays porn stars for sex while his wife is pregnant, ignoring adultery is in their 10 commandments. I welcome immigrants and the christofascist ignores their own doctrine that tells them to welcome the immigrant(many verses) preferring to call them vermin and deport. I want to help the poor and eliminate poverty, the christofascist ignores their own doctrine, idolizes billionaires who defraud the people around them and according to Matthew 19:24 are screwed, and makes it a crime to be homeless. I actually could go on and on. There have been a lot of cool Christians like John Brown or MLK and civil rights leaders I’d love to stand side by side with and share a society with. But I am proudly the opposite of a maga christofascist

[louisorr]

please lock this trash thread up. there are other places to have these "discussions"