OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread

[CJackson]

Trump posts policy position with Day 1, Day 2 and Day 3 ultimatum negotiation strategies. It is like reading a comic book on foreign policy

[Rasho Brezec]

amazing to think anybody actually says trump represents anything more than his own self interests

the republic has devolved into voting for attitude alone and somehow trumps i will crap all over you attitude has won over the hearts of all the wounded little white boys in america

Trump is bringing pride back to a country where we've lost pride with a president who has pandered to everyone

As far as your "wounded little white boys" comment. Trump and his supporters ars simply not letting liberals paint the white guys are all evil narrative and liberals hate it.

These soft liberals love to bully people and label them homophobic racist or whatever whenever something even slightly off color is said even if it's in a joking manner

Now that trump and his supporters are telling them to F off and that their dumb labels liberals put on them doesn't effect them liberals don't know what to do anymore.

We found a wounded little white boy!

I can't wait until all of you **** off to the hole where you came from in a few months.

Why are comments like this allowed?

[knicksrbake]

you mean wounded little white boys is off limits?

ok no problem

yes, and you know better

i wont say it but i cant lie and say i feel apologetic about it

the mean spirit of trump is a form of evil that must be fought against and stepping on toes is going to happen when you are dealing with budding fascists

the typical trump supporter is historically ignorant and most dont know how they are being played. some do know and they are just shameless closet nazis so fuq them anyway

but the ones who dont know simply do not realize how hitlers and mussolinis get power. they find a button they can push for the underemployed that fit some real or imaginary single racial profile and they appeal to their feeling of being betrayed and left behind by the wealthy merchant classes.

in germany those merchants were the jews. in america the formula is inverted. you dont go after the wealthy you just resent them. you dont go after them in america because it is still the land of opportunity even to the fat man in his recliner sleeping with the tv on. you go after the mud people because they are taking all the good jobs those merchants will now have to give you

never mind that that is not how economics work but it is how fascists build a following in america. 30 years ago they were hiding in bunkers in idaho. today they are the republican nominee whose bunker is on fifth avenue

and there are a bunch of suckers who will follow that nazi talk. for hitler it was the jews. for trump it is the mud people

how anybody would want a selfish vindictive irrational dangerous piece of garbage like trump with the powers of the fbi and the nsa at his fingertips is insane. the man is a total psychopath. nobody would be safe with him having power. any of his supporters who turned against him would be put on his hit list and he would hunt people down using government powers. he is a sick human being

I hope you realize that Hillary is far closer to being a fascist than Trump is. There are two big players who will be receiving votes this election: Hillary & Trump. I'll let you take a guess as to which one is a compulsive liar, war criminal, and wants the country to burn so corporate America can continue to profit.

[NoLayupRule]

We found a wounded little white boy!

I can't wait until all of you **** off to the hole where you came from in a few months.

Why are comments like this allowed?

they are not

AllanH20, if you can't use less inflammatory words, if you can't avoid insults, if you can't control yourself either the thread will be locked and you will be banned or you will just be banned

this is a public warning

ease off

[NoLayupRule]

you mean wounded little white boys is off limits?

ok no problem

yes, and you know better

i wont say it but i cant lie and say i feel apologetic about it

you realize of course that when you make the issue about race and insults you are doing exactly what you criticize Trump for?

be the bigger person

its not hard when Trump is the measuring stick

especially since his measuring stick is apparently quite small

[Cr0w]

Trump is a lying sac of s h i t

always has been

he is a man of the lowest character possible

hes been talking out both sides of his mouth the whole time and his supporters put their hands over their ears and go la la la la whenever it is pointed out that nothing trump says is legit or sincere or has an actionable plan

you get a bunch of yahoos saying he will make america great again

no explanation about what that means

its the same code words that republicans have been using for years

making american great again means making it great for white people and old people
just like "real america" means "white america"
its why they doubted Obama's heritage and why they think they can yell "you lie" at him in the state of the union

the right has been dog whistling their base and whipping them into a frenzy about the blacks, the mexicans, the muslims, etc for decades

the drug war came out of this, as did the current incarceration state

its been backfiring
it will backfire for Trump's presidency and he will get what he really wants anyway which is a very lucrative talking head role for the right after the election

Trump having a slogan like make American great again is right out of Obama's "hope" play book.

Stop the hackery partisanship. Trump is very different from a republican establishment candidate.

[Cr0w]

How is he going to rework them? What's his plan for the new trade deals?

The basics you need to know about this is that we have trade deals in place that have sold lower and middle class down the river to take advantage of places like china that maybe pay their workers a quarter an hour. All so our politicians and their friends can enjoy heightened corporate profits while we send our debt to unseen levels.

This is not just unethical on an emotional level but it is destructive to our economy. We're put in a position where the 1% is bleeding us dry and can just get up and leave when there's nothing else to take.

Like Donald Trump himself?

Donald Trump wanted to market a line of men’s clothing that would bear his name.

He told people working with him to help find a company known for producing quality merchandise on a mass scale. In the end, Trump signed on with Phillips-Van Heusen, a manufacturer of affordable shirts produced in factories in 85 countries.

The 2004 deal — one of the first of many merchandise-licensing arrangements in which Trump attached his name to products made by foreign workers and sold in the United States — is relevant today as the billionaire businessman wages a populist presidential campaign in which he accuses companies of killing U.S. jobs by moving manufacturing overseas to take advantage of cheap labor and lax workplace regulations.

If you're a businessman not taking advantage of the playing field in front of you, you are a loser.

If you are not for fixing things like lopsided trade agreements then you are borderline treasonous.

[NoLayupRule]

Trump is a lying sac of s h i t

always has been

he is a man of the lowest character possible

hes been talking out both sides of his mouth the whole time and his supporters put their hands over their ears and go la la la la whenever it is pointed out that nothing trump says is legit or sincere or has an actionable plan

you get a bunch of yahoos saying he will make america great again

no explanation about what that means

its the same code words that republicans have been using for years

making american great again means making it great for white people and old people
just like "real america" means "white america"
its why they doubted Obama's heritage and why they think they can yell "you lie" at him in the state of the union

the right has been dog whistling their base and whipping them into a frenzy about the blacks, the mexicans, the muslims, etc for decades

the drug war came out of this, as did the current incarceration state

its been backfiring
it will backfire for Trump's presidency and he will get what he really wants anyway which is a very lucrative talking head role for the right after the election

Trump having a slogan like make American great again is right out of Obama's "hope" play book.

Stop the hackery partisanship. Trump is very different from a republican establishment candidate.

thats silly

hope and change after the bush years, with the country falling into a potential depression, still engaged in 2 wars, more partisan than ever before etc is nothing like making american great again and the overt racial suggestions he mixes into that, aka anti-muslim and mexican and non-white

its really a very poor comparison you make

[CharlesOakley]

There's no valid reason to not want to shore up illegal immigration anyway unless you value foreigners welfare more than your country's citizens.

Illegal immigrants drain our infrastructure without paying taxes
They flood our lower class
They drive our minimum wage down
Their existence is disrespectful to our legal immigrants
We have a way for their criminals to evade their law

Illegal immigrants pay $12 billion a year in taxes without receiving benefits.
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-03-01/study-undocumented-immigrants-pay-billions-in-taxes
Raising the minimum wage could solve the illegal immigration
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/12/03/the-minimum-wage-cure-for-illegal-immigration/?_r=0
There is no study that indicates illegal immigration affects the minimum wage

Seattle recently increased the minimum wage to $15 an hour. A year later the city has yet to collapse.
http://www.seattletimes.com/business/economy/a-year-in-the-sky-is-not-falling-from-seattles-minimum-wage-hike/

[Cr0w]

its the same code words that republicans have been using for years

making american great again means making it great for white people and old people
just like "real america" means "white america"
its why they doubted Obama's heritage and why they think they can yell "you lie" at him in the state of the union

the right has been dog whistling their base and whipping them into a frenzy about the blacks, the mexicans, the muslims, etc for decades

the drug war came out of this, as did the current incarceration state

its been backfiring
it will backfire for Trump's presidency and he will get what he really wants anyway which is a very lucrative talking head role for the right after the election

Trump having a slogan like make American great again is right out of Obama's "hope" play book.

Stop the hackery partisanship. Trump is very different from a republican establishment candidate.

thats silly

hope and change after the bush years, with the country falling into a potential depression, still engaged in 2 wars, more partisan than ever before etc is nothing like making american great again and the overt racial suggestions he mixes into that, aka anti-muslim and mexican and non-white

its really a very poor comparison you make

No, it's not.

Hope after 8 years of bush is the same tactic as "make America great again" after 8 years of obama.

You just are too partisan to see straight.

[NoLayupRule]

Trump having a slogan like make American great again is right out of Obama's "hope" play book.

Stop the hackery partisanship. Trump is very different from a republican establishment candidate.

thats silly

hope and change after the bush years, with the country falling into a potential depression, still engaged in 2 wars, more partisan than ever before etc is nothing like making american great again and the overt racial suggestions he mixes into that, aka anti-muslim and mexican and non-white

its really a very poor comparison you make

No, it's not.

Hope after 8 years of bush is the same tactic as "make America great again" after 8 years of obama.

You just are too partisan to see straight.

i can do that too


Im right

you are just too partisan to see straight

[Boss_]

blacks, hispanics and minorities always vote for democratic candidates anyway and we all know why, to say you're not voting for a republican because its Trump on the ticket, is silly. You were gonna go with bernie if it was bernie on the ticket.

Trump is a racist, trump hates blacks and hispanics, trump hates women..

yah yah yah

The dude thats from Queens new york, he is a new yorker, thats hired (and fired) more women blacks hispanics and muslims than anyone else. He cares about results. You think he gives a crap if his best performing employee is a hispanic or a black woman or whatever? NO.

A white old billionare isnt going to be appealing to minorities no matter what.

He craps on men too, but when he dishes it out to a minority or a woman like New Mexico govonor thats a woman, you see headlines "Trump is racist" "Trump is anti-woman".

Yah yah yah.

Those "fight at trump rally crazy people" headliners are my fav, usually some bat chit crazy democratic protesters spewing the same hot pile of garbage "hes racist hes antiwomen" throwing crap at people who showed up to see what trump is going to say at the rally picking fights.

Im not even going to vote for trump, but the amount of bull the local newspapers like nydailynews spews out about trump, people eat that **** up and believe it. (owner of nydailynews and trump got in a fight many, many years ago)

I have my own brain and I have my own thoughts about the guy, he's been in the new york spotlight for ages, I dont need newspapers and tv channels that have political agendas to tell me what trump is and isnt.

Think for yourself.

I dont think trump should be prez, but for completely different reasons the masses and the media say about trump. They're all brainwashed zebras with a herd mentality that cant be reasoned with.

[Cr0w]

There's no valid reason to not want to shore up illegal immigration anyway unless you value foreigners welfare more than your country's citizens.

Illegal immigrants drain our infrastructure without paying taxes
They flood our lower class
They drive our minimum wage down
Their existence is disrespectful to our legal immigrants
We have a way for their criminals to evade their law

Illegal immigrants pay $12 billion a year in taxes without receiving benefits.
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-03-01/study-undocumented-immigrants-pay-billions-in-taxes
Raising the minimum wage could solve the illegal immigration
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/12/03/the-minimum-wage-cure-for-illegal-immigration/?_r=0
There is no study that indicates illegal immigration affects the minimum wage

Seattle recently increased the minimum wage to $15 an hour. A year later the city has yet to collapse.
http://www.seattletimes.com/business/economy/a-year-in-the-sky-is-not-falling-from-seattles-minimum-wage-hike/

Fair enough, they pay taxes on something like sales but they don't pay taxes on income and they do stuff like run up hospital bills that cost tens of thousands of dollars that legal tax payers have to shoulder. Unethical.

Minimum wage increases are destructive. They lock people out of jobs by forcing businesses to hire people that are not inherently worth it. Creates more incentive to hire illegals, outsource and automatize to make things even harder for our lower and middle class long term. We need to be working on a system where our workers are inherently worth it and not putting on band aids like mandatory min wage rises.

Seattle's economy is not stronger for 15$, in fact things have gotten tougher there as the effects are going to be felt over the long term. Little by little businesses will leave as inflation continues to rise. Look for more of a welfare economy and more empty apartments over the next 10 years for Seattle.

[AllanH20]

Trump is bringing pride back to a country where we've lost pride with a president who has pandered to everyone

As far as your "wounded little white boys" comment. Trump and his supporters ars simply not letting liberals paint the white guys are all evil narrative and liberals hate it.

These soft liberals love to bully people and label them homophobic racist or whatever whenever something even slightly off color is said even if it's in a joking manner

Now that trump and his supporters are telling them to F off and that their dumb labels liberals put on them doesn't effect them liberals don't know what to do anymore.

We found a wounded little white boy!

I can't wait until all of you **** off to the hole where you came from in a few months.

Why are comments like this allowed?

I have a question: You're based in Europe, correct?

[AllanH20]

Ok, this is pretty funny.

[Smash3]

Ok, this is pretty funny.

[Rasho Brezec]

We found a wounded little white boy!

I can't wait until all of you **** off to the hole where you came from in a few months.

Why are comments like this allowed?

I have a question: You're based in Europe, correct?

So?

[Smash3]

Why are comments like this allowed?

I have a question: You're based in Europe, correct?

So?

Eastern Europe perhaps?

[AllanH20]

Why are comments like this allowed?

I have a question: You're based in Europe, correct?

So?

I've been following your posts in this thread. I really love you guys. I know your type, I spent a lot of time in Budapest (and let's just say that I met a lot of Polish guys). I bet you were in tears when Hofer lost a couple of days ago. Or is a party founded by former SS members not fascist enough for you? Tell me, how did you feel when London elected its first Muslim mayor? I bet you were euphoric.

THE MOOSLIMS ARE COMING FOR EUROPE BRO. BEWARE OF SHARIA COURTS. THE MIGRANT CRISIS IS AN ISIS CONSPIRACY TO PENETRATE EUROPE. WE MUST PROTECT OUR WOMEN FROM THE MOOSLIM SAVAGES.

I love that you guys are fantasizing about Trump so much. One step closer to your dream, right?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/08/28/donald-trump-and-the-shadow-of-europes-far-right/

[Rasho Brezec]

I hope American agriculture can recover, that straw man took a lot of resources.