official Melo trade speculation - thread 2

sol537 · Post #1101 » by **sol537** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:33 pm

NY Trades: Melo
NY Receives: Rubio, Cole Aldrich

HarthorneWingo · Post #1102 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:37 pm

sol537 wrote:NY Trades: Melo
NY Receives: Rubio, Cole Aldrich

Melo: Minnesota? NTC!

HEZI · Post #1103 » by **HEZI** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:42 pm

seren wrote:
HEZI wrote:
seren wrote:In other word, Cavs are not interested in Melo for Love. It doesn't mean that they are not interested at all.

Also deals like these should silence Melo waive talk. Literally you could do this trade, waive and stretch both players and save more money.

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Why would the Knicks take on that garbage offer in the first place? To save Dolan a couple bucks? And this is assuming that Carmelo is willing to waive that trade kicker because if he is not then that is another 8 million of extra salary that the Cavs would have to dump on the Knicks just make the salaries match.

Hmmm. A bit tough to follow my posts I guess. I am not defending such a trade. I am just saying that Cleveland not interested in a Melo trade is nonsense (they would if the price is just Frye/Shump/filler) and moreover waiving Melo is also nonsense (since a lopsided trade like above would be more sensible financially). Clear?

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In other words the Cavs would take Melo if it meant dumping their trash on the Knicks. Wow that is some mind blowing information there. What's your next conclusion, water being wet?

rajajackal · Post #1104 » by **rajajackal** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:42 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
sol537 wrote:NY Trades: Melo
NY Receives: Rubio, Cole Aldrich

Melo: Minnesota? NTC!

quick google says wolves project to have 18-20M in capspace this summer

trade for melo and sign CP3

towns
melo
butler
wiggins
paul

bruh. then again, what's their bench

IllmaticHandler · Post #1105 » by **IllmaticHandler** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:44 pm

new melo vid

sol537 · Post #1106 » by **sol537** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:44 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
sol537 wrote:NY Trades: Melo
NY Receives: Rubio, Cole Aldrich

Melo: Minnesota? NTC!

1. Melo loves Thibs 2. Thibs is fond of Melo 3. Butler & Melo have a good relationship 4. Melo is a huge upgrade over the rest of their roster options 5. This has seen Olympic Melo up close 6. Thibs wants to win now 7. Minny wants to dump Rubio

HarthorneWingo · Post #1107 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:55 pm

IllmaticHandler wrote:new melo vid

Catch 'n shoot Melo. :lol:

If for some dang reason he's still on the team in November, the Garden crowd should immediately being to count "One, Two, Three ..." as soon as Melo touches the ball. I think that would be cool.

seren · Post #1108 » by **seren** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:21 pm

HEZI wrote:
seren wrote:
HEZI wrote:
Why would the Knicks take on that garbage offer in the first place? To save Dolan a couple bucks? And this is assuming that Carmelo is willing to waive that trade kicker because if he is not then that is another 8 million of extra salary that the Cavs would have to dump on the Knicks just make the salaries match.

Hmmm. A bit tough to follow my posts I guess. I am not defending such a trade. I am just saying that Cleveland not interested in a Melo trade is nonsense (they would if the price is just Frye/Shump/filler) and moreover waiving Melo is also nonsense (since a lopsided trade like above would be more sensible financially). Clear?

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In other words the Cavs would take Melo if it meant dumping their trash on the Knicks. Wow that is some mind blowing information there. What's your next conclusion, water being wet?

I believe you are arguing with me for the sake of it at the moment. Please move along.

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Knox · Post #1109 » by **Knox** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:21 pm

Anything credible on a possible Melo Move ? Are teams aiming for Paul George and do they plan on covering down on Melo once PG is traded ?

BKlutch · Post #1110 » by **BKlutch** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:30 pm

SelbyCobra wrote:
BKlutch wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:Now that Minnesota has Butler, does Melo give them them a tiny bit of consideration? If so a Melo for Rubio deal could probably be worked out.

I could see a

PG: Tyus Jones
SG: Andrew Wiggins
SF: Jimmy Butler
PF: Carmelo Anthony
C: Karl-Anthony Towns

With Thibs as the coach being intriguing to Melo.

But it's also still Minnesota, so there's that...

I could see this on offense, but how will Melo and Thibs get along on defense? I don't see Melo being able to play with the defensive intensity that Thibs is known to ask for from his players.

I agree, but at the same time Melo and Thibs have a long developing bromance.

From 2014:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/coming-chi-knicks-playoff-bid-fails-melo-inquires-bulls-coach-thibodeau-article-1.1754800

Carmelo Anthony recently approached a former Chicago Bulls player and asked a loaded question that should make Phil Jackson a little nervous.

“What is it like to play for Thibs?” Anthony said.

...

Another factor could be Thibodeau’s close relationship to Anthony’s agent, Leon Rose, whose longtime friend William Wesley represents Thibodeau. They all fall under the same CAA umbrella.

...

When asked on Friday why the Bulls have survived losing key players while the Knicks haven’t, Anthony said: “I have no clue. Thibs is a great coach, his system kind of reminds me of Gregg Popovich’s system.

“You put anybody in that system and it’s going to work. That’s what they’ve been doing. They’ve had guys sitting out all season long, guys that’s been in and out of the lineups and they seem to get it done.”

From 2014 again:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-bulls-coach-tom-thibodeau-praises-carmelo-anthony-20141218-story.html

"I have great respect for what he’s done. He’s a great talent. But he’s a great person, too," Thibodeau said. "I got to know him a little through USA Basketball and Coach (Jim) Boeheim. And the things Coach (Mike) Krzyzewski and Coach Boeheim said about him told me that he would be a great fit for any team.

"When you look at his career, it speaks for itself. The numbers are incredible. He probably doesn’t get the credit for being the passer and playmaker that he is. But the people with USA Basketball said that’s the role he played for that team. Every player has to do what they feel is best for himself and his family. And I think that’s what he did. And he was totally honest with everybody."

And one more from 2014:

http://nypost.com/2014/06/24/boeheim-bulls-thibodeau-very-excited-for-crack-at-carmelo/

“I’ve talked to Tom about Melo, his name has come up,’’ Boeheim told The Post. “I think Tom is very excited about the possibility of getting Carmelo. He likes him. He likes how he plays. He feels he’s coachable. I think Tom Thibodeau is one of the better coaches in the NBA. Carmelo would be happy playing for him. It would be a good fit — the coach-player relationship.’’

From 2016:

http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0517410308499708432-4

Carmelo Anthony thinks Tom Thibodeau would have accepted the Knicks' head-coaching job if it were offered him. "I'm pretty sure in Thibodeau's situation, I'm pretty sure he wanted to come (to New York)," Anthony told ESPN. "He waited a while to see if there was gonna be an opportunity. It didn't happen." Team president Phil Jackson did not reach out to Thibodeau prior Thibodeau accepting a coaching/team president position with the Minnesota Timberwolves, according to sources. "I'm pretty sure if he would've gotten offered the job, he would have took it with no regret. He would have jumped on it," Anthony added.

Also 2016, this from Thibs on coaching Melo in the Olympics:

http://nypost.com/2016/07/19/thibodeau-raves-about-great-new-knicks-sidesteps-phil-snub/

Now Anthony and Thibodeau are together for a solid month on this Olympic journey.

“He’s been great, terrific,’’ Thibodeau said of Anthony. “He set the tone in the first meeting. In practice, he’s playing unselfishly, practicing hard, talking to people, moving the ball, rebounding. He’s doing a lot of good stuff for us.

“That’s the best type of leadership you can have. The way he concentrates in meetings and practices. It goes a long way for the younger guys who haven’t been through it, setting an example.’’

Wow, I had no idea. So you think Thibs is his next after Lala?

camillepd · Post #1111 » by **camillepd** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:37 pm

Knox wrote:Anything credible on a possible Melo Move ? Are teams aiming for Paul George and do they plan on covering down on Melo once PG is traded ?

Once PG is traded, most likely to Lakers, the teams that lose out likely Boston and Cavs will then set their sights on Melo. Phil knows this. Phil is patient.

SARGO127 · Post #1112 » by **SARGO127** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:41 pm

We need Hayward to stay in Utah and PG to go to LAL. Also need CP3 to stay in LA.

Opens up Boston, Clippers, Heat, Cavs for Melos services

Rotten Apple · Post #1113 » by **Rotten Apple** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:50 pm

Melo and Thibs really do love each other :lol:

VirginiaKnickFan · Post #1114 » by **VirginiaKnickFan** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:51 pm

Sark wrote:We don't need to attach a first to get rid of Melo because we don't need the cap space, and we're certainly not doing it for Otto Porter.

Melo will be presented with 2 options.
Do you want to play in 2017/18?

Yes? Ok let's come to an agreement on a buyout and you can go to Cleveland or LA as a free agent.

I don't care. Ok stay home and collect your paycheck.

The idea that he shows up to camp and it's business as usual, is pretty much over.

Agreed. Buyout or paid to stay home, either way, I don't see Melo getting traded.

Rotten Apple · Post #1115 » by **Rotten Apple** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:53 pm

IllmaticHandler wrote:new melo vid

Such a beast when he's attacking.

Rotten Apple · Post #1116 » by **Rotten Apple** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:54 pm

SARGO127 wrote:We need Hayward to stay in Utah and PG to go to LAL. Also need CP3 to stay in LA.

Opens up Boston, Clippers, Heat, Cavs for Melos services

I think it's LeBrons team or Paul's team if not then he's a Knick.

Why leave for anything else?

GEOLINK · Post #1117 » by **GEOLINK** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:01 pm

IllmaticHandler wrote:new melo vid

There goes the shooter LeBron wanted...

HEZI · Post #1118 » by **HEZI** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:02 pm

seren wrote:
HEZI wrote:
seren wrote:Hmmm. A bit tough to follow my posts I guess. I am not defending such a trade. I am just saying that Cleveland not interested in a Melo trade is nonsense (they would if the price is just Frye/Shump/filler) and moreover waiving Melo is also nonsense (since a lopsided trade like above would be more sensible financially). Clear?

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In other words the Cavs would take Melo if it meant dumping their trash on the Knicks. Wow that is some mind blowing information there. What's your next conclusion, water being wet?

I believe you are arguing with me for the sake of it at the moment. Please move along.

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I'm really not but if I perceived your comments the wrong way then my apologies

VirginiaKnickFan · Post #1119 » by **VirginiaKnickFan** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:12 pm

Isola's take.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/jackson-anthony-ball-melo-court-article-1.3279608

Dkillanyk4lyf · Post #1120 » by **Dkillanyk4lyf** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:28 pm

VirginiaKnickFan wrote:Isola's take.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/jackson-anthony-ball-melo-court-article-1.3279608

Melo will be waived. Phil does not want him here and rightfully so.

He does not fit in with the way the game is played today, but most importantly his game does not fit into the triangle.

He has to go, and thankfully phil knows that.

Melo will not be a knick on opening night.