Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank

[HarthorneWingo]

You know how many BKN fans were ready to dump DLo last year?

Play the kids and see if it pays off. WTH else are we doing better with these minutes?

The earlier trade deadline this season will mean that we'll - hopefully - trade as many vets as possible for future assets and expiring contracts or, in the alternative, buy them out or whatever and give Frank, Dotson, Mitch, Trier, and Mario more playing time for the rest of the season.

That might happen but why waste the games before that? We really needed to give Frank & Dot DNPs during a rebuild?

What bottom feeder does this with their kids?

I wish I knew the answer to that as well. The only thing I can think of is that maybe Mills/Perry wanted to give Mudiay a bigger shot early on since there was less time, contractually, to make a call on him. Given that $12M cap hold, I'm also suspecting that another reason to give Mudiay more burn was for trade value at the deadline. We had to know from the onset that we were never going to bring Mudiay back that price. That's the best I can do with the facts we have. I'd be shocked if kept Mudiay and simply resigned him for the cap hold.

[Fat Kat]

The earlier trade deadline this season will mean that we'll - hopefully - trade as many vets as possible for future assets and expiring contracts or, in the alternative, buy them out or whatever and give Frank, Dotson, Mitch, Trier, and Mario more playing time for the rest of the season.

That might happen but why waste the games before that? We really needed to give Frank & Dot DNPs during a rebuild?

What bottom feeder does this with their kids?

I wish I knew the answer to that as well. The only thing I can think of is that maybe Mills/Perry wanted to give Mudiay a bigger shot early on since there was less time, contractually, to make a call on him. Given that $12M cap hold, I'm also suspecting that another reason to give Mudiay more burn was for trade value at the deadline. We had to know from the onset that we were never going to bring Mudiay back that price. That's the best I can do with the facts we have. I'd be shocked if kept Mudiay and simply resigned him for the cap hold.

Fiz probably views Mudiay as a better prospect than Frank based on how they play and practice. Management doesn’t seem interested in building an imaginary scaffolding to prop Frank up. I wouldn’t be shocked if they keep Mudiay. Don’t really believe you would be either. The D-Lo parallel is with Mudiay, not Frank.

[HarthorneWingo]

That might happen but why waste the games before that? We really needed to give Frank & Dot DNPs during a rebuild?

What bottom feeder does this with their kids?

I wish I knew the answer to that as well. The only thing I can think of is that maybe Mills/Perry wanted to give Mudiay a bigger shot early on since there was less time, contractually, to make a call on him. Given that $12M cap hold, I'm also suspecting that another reason to give Mudiay more burn was for trade value at the deadline. We had to know from the onset that we were never going to bring Mudiay back that price. That's the best I can do with the facts we have. I'd be shocked if kept Mudiay and simply resigned him for the cap hold.

Fiz probably views Mudiay as a better prospect than Frank based on how they play and practice. Management doesn’t seem interested in building an imaginary scaffolding to prop Frank up. I wouldn’t be shocked if they keep Mudiay. Don’t really believe you would be either. The D-Lo parallel is with Mudiay, not Frank.

Shut uuuuuuuuuuup!

That’s exactly what I was trying to avoid acknowledging. Thanks!

[Clyde_Style]

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Boom.

frank was there because they didn't let him leave until he hit a 3......i couldn't help it. thank you for your understanding.

[br7knicks]

Thabo came in the league at 22, and had a higher foul rate than Frank.

Frank's defensive IQ is also very high. Getting to a Thabo level defensively should be a relatively safe bet.

Look at a guy like Roberson. He is such a great perimeter defender that the thunder were okay with his horrific shooting and atrocious ability to open the floor, and still play him 30+ mpg. And they were winning games.

I'm not sure why he's not getting minutes (maybe he's now showing improvement during practice), but he's 20 and there needs to be patience.

He clearly tries hard at the end of the floor that matters

[prophet_of_rage]

You know how many BKN fans were ready to dump DLo last year?

Play the kids and see if it pays off. WTH else are we doing better with these minutes?

The earlier trade deadline this season will mean that we'll - hopefully - trade as many vets as possible for future assets and expiring contracts or, in the alternative, buy them out or whatever and give Frank, Dotson, Mitch, Trier, and Mario more playing time for the rest of the season.

That might happen but why waste the games before that? We really needed to give Frank & Dot DNPs during a rebuild?

What bottom feeder does this with their kids?

A bottom feeder that is trying to teach its kids good habits, adversity and professionalism? They each got like 3 dnps and then have been playing regular roles. They each responded to the DNP with stronger games.

They have to be coached.

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[Richard4444]

There is an another reason to corcern of Frank"s situation in 2019/20.

I am almost sure that we will try to make the playoffs in 2019/20 (at least for the first months). But I do not think we will be able to do that with the a deeply unexpericenced roster. I think we will try to balance the rotation players (half veterans and half unexperienced).

The problem is that we will probably have too many players with 1, 2 or 3 NBA years in our roster. (Experienced: KP, Tim and 3 or more FAs (maybe Vonleh). Unexperienced: Frank, Trier, Dotson, Rookie FRP 2019, Knox, Kornet and Mitchell). And all of the unexperienced players is balling more than Frank (at least they are more consistent).

I think we will draft a PG or get a starting PG in FA and I dont think we will play a all rookie second team. Due to that fact, its will be difficult do give playing time to Frank and he probably will lost the backup position to some experienced PG scrub. I dont think is smart to have a year 3 player in the roster without playing time.

In that situation, I think we will accept a fair offer for Frank (if there is any).

[prophet_of_rage]

Just checked. Roberson was at 19 minutes a game his second season. He played fewer minutes than Frank has so far.

[thebuzzardman]

DSJr seems more like the kind of guard Perry and Fiz value. Probably Mills as well.

Get er done Pills!

Trade Dotson too. Not enough wiggle in his game.

Yeah you've GOT to include Dotson in the deal because he looks to understand the game, play within himself, and doesn't fire away from all angles at will. He does show he can make tough shots but can he get a shot and a miss anywhere on the floor?

That's key lol.

Plus he plays D and understands team ball. And he is cheap. And he is making Timmy look bad. AND (exhales) he is shooting high percentages.

So yeah, Dotson is a throw-in.

Funny. Very funny. Very tragic.

Frank Dot Lee for Wes DSJ

Checks off all the Knicks priorities

This. What's the hold up?

[Fat Kat]

Roberson finds a way to shoot over 48% from the field. Frank’s is one of the worst shooters in the history of NBA after 2 seasons.

[thebuzzardman]

I still think the Knicks are comfortable playing Frank 15-18 mpg and feel that's his development curve. The numbers go up or down if Fiz feels Mudiay is "hot" or whatever. I might quibble with those few minutes, but it's a pretty small thing. Year 4 vs year 2.

Anyway, hope he's traded to the Mavs. Because, you know...

[GONYK]

Roberson finds a way to shoot over 48% from the field. Frank’s is one of the worst shooters in the history of NBA after 2 seasons.

Roberson shoots 4 times a game and 22% from 3. Fiz would never play him because he's not aggressive and everyone would say he's soft.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Frank is shooting 39.4% from 3 the last 14 games...it's something at least

[DOT]

Frank is shooting 39.4% from 3 the last 14 games...it's something at least

And the first like 10 games he was shooting over 40% from 3

Then he went ice cold. Almost like he's a young, developing player or something

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[dakomish23]

The earlier trade deadline this season will mean that we'll - hopefully - trade as many vets as possible for future assets and expiring contracts or, in the alternative, buy them out or whatever and give Frank, Dotson, Mitch, Trier, and Mario more playing time for the rest of the season.

That might happen but why waste the games before that? We really needed to give Frank & Dot DNPs during a rebuild?

What bottom feeder does this with their kids?

A bottom feeder that is trying to teach its kids good habits, adversity and professionalism? They each got like 3 dnps and then have been playing regular roles. They each responded to the DNP with stronger games.

They have to be coached.

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Good habits? Professionalism? When the hell were these a problem for Frank or Dot?

Dotson - 6 DNPs
Frank - 4 DNPs
Mudiay - 1 DNP (and I’m not ok with that either)

What other excuses you got?

[Jalen Bluntson]

Roberson finds a way to shoot over 48% from the field. Frank’s is one of the worst shooters in the history of NBA after 2 seasons.

Is this anywhere near true?

[NoLayupRule]

Nows the time to Try to trade frank for ball

[whocares1]

Roberson finds a way to shoot over 48% from the field. Frank’s is one of the worst shooters in the history of NBA after 2 seasons.

Roberson shoots 4 times a game and 22% from 3. Fiz would never play him because he's not aggressive and everyone would say he's soft.

Yea Fiz never started a wing that couldn’t score..He’s NEVER rewarded a wing that can’t score because he plays defense. Not ever.

[prophet_of_rage]

That might happen but why waste the games before that? We really needed to give Frank & Dot DNPs during a rebuild?

What bottom feeder does this with their kids?

A bottom feeder that is trying to teach its kids good habits, adversity and professionalism? They each got like 3 dnps and then have been playing regular roles. They each responded to the DNP with stronger games.

They have to be coached.

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Good habits? Professionalism? When the hell were these a problem for Frank or Dot?

Dotson - 6 DNPs
Frank - 4 DNPs
Mudiay - 1 DNP (and I’m not ok with that either)

What other excuses you got?

Frank and Dot had stretches where they weren't producong so Fiz sat them tp motivate them. The tactic worked.

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[prophet_of_rage]

Roberson finds a way to shoot over 48% from the field. Frank’s is one of the worst shooters in the history of NBA after 2 seasons.

Is this anywhere near true?

Roberson yes. Frank no.

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