Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor

[Ghetto Gospel]

Yes because to be fair Lonzo averaged 7.0 assists in 2019-2020 during a year where rookie Zion only played 24 games.

Let's not pretend that Zion is the reason for Ball bring a great passer. Kid went 2nd overall out of UCLA due to passing alone...

zion is one of the best paint finishers in the league today and lonzo's assists essentially stayed the same/went down when he plays with him. what does that tell you

lonzo is not a great passer. he was drafted because he showed passing/playmaking talent in college. It hasn't translated into the nba

It also shows that teams just pack the paint against Zion and he creates mostly for himself which is why they put the ball in his hands and Lonxo's 3 pt shooting exploded.

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he creates for himself because lonzo can't create for him

[BugginOut]

Who else is going to outbid us for Sexton?

Can’t imagine Pat Riley is dying for Sexton. Especially since it would take Herro and a pick, and they are already asset capped since they can’t trade a pick till 2028

Sixers aren’t trading for him.

We have the best offer. If we give any more than Knox, Obi, #21 and #32 we got robbed in my opinion. We are only bidding against ourselves

No way Don Leon, and WWW, give them 2 picks in a loaded draft.

That’s what I’m saying. Yet people are saying we should be giving up 2 firsts. Honestly I’d take out Obi and just give them Knox and #19.

[3toheadmelo]

I don't know. Sexton is good but not great, and he's going to get paid.
On the other hand, as stated, you'd think they'd want to move Love as part of it.
And Knicks reason for getting Sexton - besides the obvious of he can actually 3 level score - is the ability to get another player, which Love removes.

To me it is high way robbery. 22 year old guard averaging 24 PPG and in return they get two busts in Obi and Knox, and a first round pick that won’t amount to anything most likely. I am pretty sure Cleveland can get something better than that. the heat is reportedly offering Tyler Herro, who is much better than our whole package. We probably have to give up more. I would just hand over our 21st pick as well, and maybe a top 10 protected pick in the future

and another 1st?

That rumored package gets you someone like Kuzma. You gotta give up real assets if you want good players

[Zenzibar]

That's why you play them together and let Lonzo be Bullocks with passing. Bullocks can come back for LGBT+ pride and bench continuity.

you're my guy but you dicked that up.

Not my best joke, but I'd bring Bullocks back for bench depth.

Though I wonder if Bullocks efficiency goes down when his minutes do. I'd look up stats, but I'm lazy. I know he looked less good with less minutes 2 years ago with the Knicks, but he was also coming off a significant injury.

I'd bring Reggie back too.

[thebuzzardman]

I don't know. Sexton is good but not great, and he's going to get paid.
On the other hand, as stated, you'd think they'd want to move Love as part of it.
And Knicks reason for getting Sexton - besides the obvious of he can actually 3 level score - is the ability to get another player, which Love removes.

To me it is high way robbery. 22 year old guard averaging 24 PPG and in return they get two busts in Obi and Knox, and a first round pick that won’t amount to anything most likely. I am pretty sure Cleveland can get something better than that. the heat is reportedly offering Tyler Herro, who is much better than our whole package. We probably have to give up more. I would just hand over our 21st pick as well, and maybe a top 10 protected pick in the future

and another 1st?

People are seeing 24 ppg and getting stars in their eyes.

I'll keep beating this agenda to death: How much better is Sexton than Schroeder, and what was Schroeder traded for? Twice.

[3toheadmelo]

To me it is high way robbery. 22 year old guard averaging 24 PPG and in return they get two busts in Obi and Knox, and a first round pick that won’t amount to anything most likely. I am pretty sure Cleveland can get something better than that. the heat is reportedly offering Tyler Herro, who is much better than our whole package. We probably have to give up more. I would just hand over our 21st pick as well, and maybe a top 10 protected pick in the future

and another 1st?

People are seeing 24 ppg and getting stars in their eyes.

I'll keep beating this agenda to death: How much better is Sexton than Schroeder, and what was Schroeder traded for? Twice.

Sexton beat a healthy Nets team on his own. I ain’t never seen Schroder do something like that.

[thebuzzardman]

To me it is high way robbery. 22 year old guard averaging 24 PPG and in return they get two busts in Obi and Knox, and a first round pick that won’t amount to anything most likely. I am pretty sure Cleveland can get something better than that. the heat is reportedly offering Tyler Herro, who is much better than our whole package. We probably have to give up more. I would just hand over our 21st pick as well, and maybe a top 10 protected pick in the future

and another 1st?

That rumored package gets you someone like Kuzma. You gotta give up real assets if you want good players

I think there is a legit debate of what level of good Sexton is.

And I'm not cutting him down. He's good. Just wondering if his stats got a little inflated and therefore his price isn't QUITE so steep.

Trying to hold onto the better pick or both of them. Even trying to keep Obi or Knox, if only as future trade fodder.

[thebuzzardman]

and another 1st?

People are seeing 24 ppg and getting stars in their eyes.

I'll keep beating this agenda to death: How much better is Sexton than Schroeder, and what was Schroeder traded for? Twice.

Sexton beat a healthy Nets team on his own. I ain’t never seen Schroder do something like that.

He did a pretty good job of f*cking over the Lakers!

[Zenzibar]

To me it is high way robbery. 22 year old guard averaging 24 PPG and in return they get two busts in Obi and Knox, and a first round pick that won’t amount to anything most likely. I am pretty sure Cleveland can get something better than that. the heat is reportedly offering Tyler Herro, who is much better than our whole package. We probably have to give up more. I would just hand over our 21st pick as well, and maybe a top 10 protected pick in the future

and another 1st?

That rumored package gets you someone like Kuzma. You gotta give up real assets if you want good players

No Bro, Colin is looking to get paid for 4-5 years and all I'm saying is that the Cavs are in a really bad negotiating position. They want Suggs meaning it'll push Sexton to the bench.

The Knicks can wait it out.

[Zenzibar]

Who else is going to outbid us for Sexton?

Can’t imagine Pat Riley is dying for Sexton. Especially since it would take Herro and a pick, and they are already asset capped since they can’t trade a pick till 2028

Sixers aren’t trading for him.

We have the best offer. If we give any more than Knox, Obi, #21 and #32 we got robbed in my opinion. We are only bidding against ourselves

No way Don Leon, and WWW, give them 2 picks in a loaded draft.

That’s what I’m saying. Yet people are saying we should be giving up 2 firsts. Honestly I’d take out Obi and just give them Knox and #19.

The Cavs are stuck and no way they are getting the 19th pick. Noooooo way. A 19th pick in this year's draft is a fringe lottery pick in any other draft.

[3toheadmelo]

and another 1st?

That rumored package gets you someone like Kuzma. You gotta give up real assets if you want good players

I think there is a legit debate of what level of good Sexton is.

And I'm not cutting him down. He's good. Just wondering if his stats got a little inflated and therefore his price isn't QUITE so steep.

Trying to hold onto the better pick or both of them. Even trying to keep Obi or Knox, if only as future trade fodder.

In my opinion they aren’t inflated. If they were his efficiency would be garbage and it would look like he’s just jacking up shots for more points.
Fk Obi and Knox. Get them outta here. Cavs fans don’t even want them for Sexton too. They think they’re getting robbed

[god shammgod]

and another 1st?

That rumored package gets you someone like Kuzma. You gotta give up real assets if you want good players

I think there is a legit debate of what level of good Sexton is.

And I'm not cutting him down. He's good. Just wondering if his stats got a little inflated and therefore his price isn't QUITE so steep.

Trying to hold onto the better pick or both of them. Even trying to keep Obi or Knox, if only as future trade fodder.

teams without a lot of offensive options let guys have a lot more shots than they probably should. look at rj.

[Zenzibar]

That rumored package gets you someone like Kuzma. You gotta give up real assets if you want good players

I think there is a legit debate of what level of good Sexton is.

And I'm not cutting him down. He's good. Just wondering if his stats got a little inflated and therefore his price isn't QUITE so steep.

Trying to hold onto the better pick or both of them. Even trying to keep Obi or Knox, if only as future trade fodder.

In my opinion they aren’t inflated. If they were his efficiency would be garbage and it would look like he’s just jacking up shots for more points.
Fk Obi and Knox. Get them outta here. Cavs fans don’t even want them for Sexton too. They think they’re getting robbed

Fk what the Cavs fans want, this isn't what Don Leon does for a living. He gets his, for his and he's working for us. So chill with the over pay.

If we get Colin, it'll be on our terms, not the Cavs fandom.

[thebuzzardman]

That rumored package gets you someone like Kuzma. You gotta give up real assets if you want good players

I think there is a legit debate of what level of good Sexton is.

And I'm not cutting him down. He's good. Just wondering if his stats got a little inflated and therefore his price isn't QUITE so steep.

Trying to hold onto the better pick or both of them. Even trying to keep Obi or Knox, if only as future trade fodder.

teams without a lot of offensive options let guys have a lot more shots than they probably should. look at rj.

[JohnStarksTheDunk]

No Bro, Colin is looking to get paid for 4-5 years and all I'm saying is that the Cavs are in a really bad negotiating position. They want Suggs meaning it'll push Sexton to the bench.

The Knicks can wait it out.

Exactly. Cleveland kind of put themselves in a corner because they aren't going to pay him and if they don't trade him they don't get anything when he walks. If they wait until the trade deadline, his value will probably be lower from playing in a crowded backcourt.

Ours is the offer to beat. Though if Miami offers Herro and agrees to take on Love, that would top our package.

[3toheadmelo]

I think there is a legit debate of what level of good Sexton is.

And I'm not cutting him down. He's good. Just wondering if his stats got a little inflated and therefore his price isn't QUITE so steep.

Trying to hold onto the better pick or both of them. Even trying to keep Obi or Knox, if only as future trade fodder.

In my opinion they aren’t inflated. If they were his efficiency would be garbage and it would look like he’s just jacking up shots for more points.
Fk Obi and Knox. Get them outta here. Cavs fans don’t even want them for Sexton too. They think they’re getting robbed

Fk what the Cavs fans want, this isn't what Don Leon does for a living. He gets his, for his and he's working for us. So chill with the over pay.

If we get Colin, it'll be on our terms, not the Cavs fandom.

You acting like Leon gonna force them to give us Sexton for Payton doesn’t work like that.

If the Knicks got Sexton for that package that’s high way robbery. But I am pretty sure Sexton will go for more. Watch

[3toheadmelo]

That rumored package gets you someone like Kuzma. You gotta give up real assets if you want good players

I think there is a legit debate of what level of good Sexton is.

And I'm not cutting him down. He's good. Just wondering if his stats got a little inflated and therefore his price isn't QUITE so steep.

Trying to hold onto the better pick or both of them. Even trying to keep Obi or Knox, if only as future trade fodder.

teams without a lot of offensive options let guys have a lot more shots than they probably should. look at rj.

Like your guy Garland too?

[Zenzibar]

No Bro, Colin is looking to get paid for 4-5 years and all I'm saying is that the Cavs are in a really bad negotiating position. They want Suggs meaning it'll push Sexton to the bench.

The Knicks can wait it out.

Exactly. Cleveland kind of put themselves in a corner because they aren't going to pay him and if they don't trade him they don't get anything when he walks. If they wait until the trade deadline, his value will probably be lower from playing in a crowded backcourt.

Ours is the offer to beat. Though if Miami offers Herro and agrees to take on Love, that would top our package.

The only team that can absorb Love is, ready, the New York Knicks (thank you Steve Mills).

and if we take Love, you better believe we're getting some swap of picks back. That's ALOT of money Love is getting for what he currently provides.

We can absorb the money, play Love behind Randle and Mitch and buy him out next summer.

[Zenzibar]

In my opinion they aren’t inflated. If they were his efficiency would be garbage and it would look like he’s just jacking up shots for more points.
Fk Obi and Knox. Get them outta here. Cavs fans don’t even want them for Sexton too. They think they’re getting robbed

Fk what the Cavs fans want, this isn't what Don Leon does for a living. He gets his, for his and he's working for us. So chill with the over pay.

If we get Colin, it'll be on our terms, not the Cavs fandom.

You acting like Leon gonna force them to give us Sexton for Payton doesn’t work like that.

If the Knicks got Sexton for that package that’s high way robbery. But I am pretty sure Sexton will go for more. Watch

You're exagerating to quantify your position, I'm not talking Payton. I'm saying is that Don Leon is a power broker and no way he's just giving assets away since there has been a Lavine and Thibs reunion floating since Thibs got here.

You'll need these and future assets for that dude.

[Monk1718]

I think there is a legit debate of what level of good Sexton is.

And I'm not cutting him down. He's good. Just wondering if his stats got a little inflated and therefore his price isn't QUITE so steep.

Trying to hold onto the better pick or both of them. Even trying to keep Obi or Knox, if only as future trade fodder.

teams without a lot of offensive options let guys have a lot more shots than they probably should. look at rj.