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Post#1101 » by KnixinSix » Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:05 pm

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/280903/Giannis-Antetokounmpo-Remains-Open-Minded-About-Future-Could-Decide-After-Bucks-Offseason-Moves

The language around Giannis remains extremely open ended. There is no commitment.

And what is Milwaukee realistically going to be able to pull off this offseason?

This is EXTREMELY interesting. Houston blew its load for a 50M dollar player already. Giannis is rumored to want to play in a big city. If Knicks get Kidd ....our roster, coaching and location is about as ideal as it gets for what he'd likely want in his next destination.

He is the type of player that has the gravity to dictate where he goes too.
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Post#1102 » by Juco24 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:25 pm

KnixinSix wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/280903/Giannis-Antetokounmpo-Remains-Open-Minded-About-Future-Could-Decide-After-Bucks-Offseason-Moves

The language around Giannis remains extremely open ended. There is no commitment.

And what is Milwaukee realistically going to be able to pull off this offseason?

This is EXTREMELY interesting. Houston blew its load for a 50M dollar player already. Giannis is rumored to want to play in a big city. If Knicks get Kidd ....our roster, coaching and location is about as ideal as it gets for what he'd likely want in his next destination.

He is the type of player that has the gravity to dictate where he goes too.


Interesting... also not sure how Mil can improve their roster. Will Dame ever get back to Portland Dame? And their cap space is not good. Definitely interesting
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Post#1103 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:35 pm

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They are gonna want to fortify with established veterans around Durant. Their Durant timeline is 1 to 2 years tops. Ime LOVES Mikal. He is absolutely worth more than Jabari to them. And if we can turn it into Jabari and a couple first round picks, that would be Jabari and Kessler essentially for Mikal .


They offered 4 FRPs for him. I want those picks plus the players. They are in win now mode. I'm not looking to do them any favors to get where I want to go. That's what a GM would think. Mikal is the best player in the trade. If they valued him that much last year, he's more valuable now that they are in a short window with Durant. Bleed them dry.


We arent getting BOTH Jabari and a boatload of picks . However Jabari as the centerpiece and then enough picks to get Kessler is a realistic and quite favorable goal for our optimized roster construction around KAT and Brunson.

Divo is a bonus above and can either not be done or done in a seperate deal as well. Minny is losing Naz Reid. Divo did not play nearly as well as he did in NY. Mitch is an excellent complement to Goebert in the Finch system that now has went to the WCF 2x. The other option is to send McBride and pieces (Kolek/Dadiet) if they prefer that.


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:lol: You are moving heaven and earth to make these trades happen! :rofl: 11 players. 4 teams and random picks. :rofl2:

It all makes some sense in a vacuum but, no. There is NO WAY that trade ever happens. Close the trade checker and back away from the keyboard! It's for your own good. :lol:
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Post#1104 » by seren » Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:35 pm

Woah. Sounds like Giannis not only wants to leave but also makes sure Milwaukee will never get out of a cap hell. That article reads more like Giannis taking the franchise hostage. If this is real (I guess there is a lot of exaggeration here), I would start an auction immediately if I were Bucks GM
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Post#1105 » by TheGreenArrow » Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:36 pm

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Post#1106 » by sol537 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:39 pm

1. Get Kidd
2. Trade KAT and Hart for Giannis and scraps.

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Post#1107 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:41 pm

KnixinSix wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/280903/Giannis-Antetokounmpo-Remains-Open-Minded-About-Future-Could-Decide-After-Bucks-Offseason-Moves

The language around Giannis remains extremely open ended. There is no commitment.

And what is Milwaukee realistically going to be able to pull off this offseason?

This is EXTREMELY interesting. Houston blew its load for a 50M dollar player already. Giannis is rumored to want to play in a big city. If Knicks get Kidd ....our roster, coaching and location is about as ideal as it gets for what he'd likely want in his next destination.

He is the type of player that has the gravity to dictate where he goes too.


Ok. How do we get Giannis in an unforseen future? KAT, or do we gut the team? I'm curious how you trade check this one. Don't forget, the Lakers get whatever they want in this league. Whenever they need it. For pennies on the dollar usually. We don't get that luxury.
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Post#1108 » by KnixinSix » Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:51 pm

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They offered 4 FRPs for him. I want those picks plus the players. They are in win now mode. I'm not looking to do them any favors to get where I want to go. That's what a GM would think. Mikal is the best player in the trade. If they valued him that much last year, he's more valuable now that they are in a short window with Durant. Bleed them dry.


We arent getting BOTH Jabari and a boatload of picks . However Jabari as the centerpiece and then enough picks to get Kessler is a realistic and quite favorable goal for our optimized roster construction around KAT and Brunson.

Divo is a bonus above and can either not be done or done in a seperate deal as well. Minny is losing Naz Reid. Divo did not play nearly as well as he did in NY. Mitch is an excellent complement to Goebert in the Finch system that now has went to the WCF 2x. The other option is to send McBride and pieces (Kolek/Dadiet) if they prefer that.


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:lol: You are moving heaven and earth to make these trades happen! :rofl: 11 players. 4 teams and random picks. :rofl2:

It all makes some sense in a vacuum but, no. There is NO WAY that trade ever happens. Close the trade checker and back away from the keyboard! It's for your own good. :lol:


Heck no! This is part of the fun...and no matter how much you continue to make fun....I was 3 for 3 on the OG KAT and Bridges trade. I was close on KAT but had Mitch instead of Divo and Bridges I said would be 5 FRPs.

I am not saying any of these deals come to fruition. But time and effort with an understanding of how trades work were put into these. With that said, some are absolutely higher likelihoods than others.

And for Giannis and JJJ only way they happen WITHOUT KAT is if leverage is more with the player and they push specifically to come here.....

Here is one example for Giannis with Houston getting Mikal and Pelicans sending back Milwakee first rounder back.

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Post#1109 » by Wildcat » Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:53 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
We arent getting BOTH Jabari and a boatload of picks . However Jabari as the centerpiece and then enough picks to get Kessler is a realistic and quite favorable goal for our optimized roster construction around KAT and Brunson.

Divo is a bonus above and can either not be done or done in a seperate deal as well. Minny is losing Naz Reid. Divo did not play nearly as well as he did in NY. Mitch is an excellent complement to Goebert in the Finch system that now has went to the WCF 2x. The other option is to send McBride and pieces (Kolek/Dadiet) if they prefer that.


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:lol: You are moving heaven and earth to make these trades happen! :rofl: 11 players. 4 teams and random picks. :rofl2:

It all makes some sense in a vacuum but, no. There is NO WAY that trade ever happens. Close the trade checker and back away from the keyboard! It's for your own good. :lol:


Heck no! This is part of the fun...and no matter how much you continue to make fun....I was 3 for 3 on the OG KAT and Bridges trade. I was close on KAT but had Mitch instead of Divo and Bridges I said would be 5 FRPs.

I am not saying any of these deals come to fruition. But time and effort with an understanding of how trades work were put into these. With that said, some are absolutely higher likelihoods than others.

And for Giannis and JJJ only way they happen WITHOUT KAT is if leverage is more with the player and they push specifically to come here.....

Here is one example for Giannis with Houston getting Mikal and Pelicans sending back Milwakee first rounder back.

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So Bluntson was right. You're gutting the team.
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Post#1110 » by KnixinSix » Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:54 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/280903/Giannis-Antetokounmpo-Remains-Open-Minded-About-Future-Could-Decide-After-Bucks-Offseason-Moves

The language around Giannis remains extremely open ended. There is no commitment.

And what is Milwaukee realistically going to be able to pull off this offseason?

This is EXTREMELY interesting. Houston blew its load for a 50M dollar player already. Giannis is rumored to want to play in a big city. If Knicks get Kidd ....our roster, coaching and location is about as ideal as it gets for what he'd likely want in his next destination.

He is the type of player that has the gravity to dictate where he goes too.


Ok. How do we get Giannis in an unforseen future? KAT, or do we gut the team? I'm curious how you trade check this one. Don't forget, the Lakers get whatever they want in this league. Whenever they need it. For pennies on the dollar usually. We don't get that luxury.


Oh my fine feathered friend its a dosey.....see above! It works a bit easier with KAT or even OG and maybe it would be KAT or OG instead . But here is one with Mikal, Hart and Robinson.
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Post#1111 » by KnixinSix » Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:58 pm

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KnixinSix wrote:
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:lol: You are moving heaven and earth to make these trades happen! :rofl: 11 players. 4 teams and random picks. :rofl2:

It all makes some sense in a vacuum but, no. There is NO WAY that trade ever happens. Close the trade checker and back away from the keyboard! It's for your own good. :lol:


Heck no! This is part of the fun...and no matter how much you continue to make fun....I was 3 for 3 on the OG KAT and Bridges trade. I was close on KAT but had Mitch instead of Divo and Bridges I said would be 5 FRPs.

I am not saying any of these deals come to fruition. But time and effort with an understanding of how trades work were put into these. With that said, some are absolutely higher likelihoods than others.

And for Giannis and JJJ only way they happen WITHOUT KAT is if leverage is more with the player and they push specifically to come here.....

Here is one example for Giannis with Houston getting Mikal and Pelicans sending back Milwakee first rounder back.

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So Bluntson was right. You're gutting the team.


You have to be careful with lazy narratives.

You have to look at the finished product before assuming OMG!!! We have no players left!

We have the MLE in which a decent role player who wants a ring will come. Think Oubre, Trent Jr, Nance, Simmons etc.

In this trade we sent out 3 M more than we take in which will give us something like 10-12 M to spend before hitting 2nd apron.

Delon Wirght and Shamet are likely back on vet minimums.

KAT(18)/Giannis(15)/Huk(15)
Giannis(18)/KAT(14)/OG(16)
OG(16)/MLE(20)/Shamet (11)
McBride(20)/Wright(16)/ MLE(8)/ Shamet (4)
Brunson (34)/McBride (10)/Wright (4)

.....With all that said I am taking the harder challenge of trying to do it without OG or KAT. Its Giannis so Knicks absolutely could trade anyone but Jalen in this deal. But it isnt 'gutting the team' in the sense that we couldn’t field a deep squad especially with a better coach.

That squad above is 9 deep. With McCullar , Dadiet and maybe that Nanji dude on the extended bench.
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Post#1112 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:01 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
We arent getting BOTH Jabari and a boatload of picks . However Jabari as the centerpiece and then enough picks to get Kessler is a realistic and quite favorable goal for our optimized roster construction around KAT and Brunson.

Divo is a bonus above and can either not be done or done in a seperate deal as well. Minny is losing Naz Reid. Divo did not play nearly as well as he did in NY. Mitch is an excellent complement to Goebert in the Finch system that now has went to the WCF 2x. The other option is to send McBride and pieces (Kolek/Dadiet) if they prefer that.


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:lol: You are moving heaven and earth to make these trades happen! :rofl: 11 players. 4 teams and random picks. :rofl2:

It all makes some sense in a vacuum but, no. There is NO WAY that trade ever happens. Close the trade checker and back away from the keyboard! It's for your own good. :lol:


Heck no! This is part of the fun...and no matter how much you continue to make fun....I was 3 for 3 on the OG KAT and Bridges trade. I was close on KAT but had Mitch instead of Divo and Bridges I said would be 5 FRPs.

I am not saying any of these deals come to fruition. But time and effort with an understanding of how trades work were put into these. With that said, some are absolutely higher likelihoods than others.

And for Giannis and JJJ only way they happen WITHOUT KAT is if leverage is more with the player and they push specifically to come here.....

Here is one example for Giannis with Houston getting Mikal and Pelicans sending back Milwakee first rounder back.

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Jfc. :lol: another 11 players and 4 teams with random picks and, we get everything you want while other teams settle for our scraps.

I love this energy bro. You wanted the last few trades, along with half the board. They happened. Let's see what shakes loose his summer. You may get your miracle trades again. This FO has been full of surprises.
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Post#1113 » by dukeknicksirish » Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:01 pm

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Post#1114 » by JayTWill » Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:04 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
We arent getting BOTH Jabari and a boatload of picks . However Jabari as the centerpiece and then enough picks to get Kessler is a realistic and quite favorable goal for our optimized roster construction around KAT and Brunson.

Divo is a bonus above and can either not be done or done in a seperate deal as well. Minny is losing Naz Reid. Divo did not play nearly as well as he did in NY. Mitch is an excellent complement to Goebert in the Finch system that now has went to the WCF 2x. The other option is to send McBride and pieces (Kolek/Dadiet) if they prefer that.


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This trade leaves the Rockets only 3M under the cap at the 2nd apron with only 10 players on the roster. They need to have a minimum of 14 standard contracts. The Wolves would be capped at the 1st apron with less than $1M in space where they could possibly lose NAW and/or Reid. Utah ends up with 17 standard contracts before they even possibly add more players with 2 1sts and 2 2nds in this year's draft. They can only carry a max of 15 standard contracts.
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Post#1115 » by stuporman » Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:08 pm

Didn't a local(to Sac) media guy who has quite a bit of access to the Kings say that Monk and Brown didn't see eye to eye about his role and even were seen shouting at each other in practices a few times?

Doesn't sound like someone that the Knicks would want to acquire nor the player want to be acquired by.
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Post#1116 » by KnixinSix » Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:17 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
:lol: You are moving heaven and earth to make these trades happen! :rofl: 11 players. 4 teams and random picks. :rofl2:

It all makes some sense in a vacuum but, no. There is NO WAY that trade ever happens. Close the trade checker and back away from the keyboard! It's for your own good. :lol:


Heck no! This is part of the fun...and no matter how much you continue to make fun....I was 3 for 3 on the OG KAT and Bridges trade. I was close on KAT but had Mitch instead of Divo and Bridges I said would be 5 FRPs.

I am not saying any of these deals come to fruition. But time and effort with an understanding of how trades work were put into these. With that said, some are absolutely higher likelihoods than others.

And for Giannis and JJJ only way they happen WITHOUT KAT is if leverage is more with the player and they push specifically to come here.....

Here is one example for Giannis with Houston getting Mikal and Pelicans sending back Milwakee first rounder back.

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Jfc. :lol: another 11 players and 4 teams with random picks and, we get everything you want while other teams settle for our scraps.

I love this energy bro. You wanted the last few trades, along with half the board. They happened. Let's see what shakes loose his summer. You may get your miracle trades again. This FO has been full of surprises.


Way extreme in your take. Houston gets their top target to pair with KD. So absolutely a terrible take calling that scraps.

Hart and Robinson give that Pelican team that lacks a backbone some true glue guys .
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Post#1117 » by Wildcat » Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:17 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
Wildcat wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
Heck no! This is part of the fun...and no matter how much you continue to make fun....I was 3 for 3 on the OG KAT and Bridges trade. I was close on KAT but had Mitch instead of Divo and Bridges I said would be 5 FRPs.

I am not saying any of these deals come to fruition. But time and effort with an understanding of how trades work were put into these. With that said, some are absolutely higher likelihoods than others.

And for Giannis and JJJ only way they happen WITHOUT KAT is if leverage is more with the player and they push specifically to come here.....

Here is one example for Giannis with Houston getting Mikal and Pelicans sending back Milwakee first rounder back.

Image


So Bluntson was right. You're gutting the team.


You have to be careful with lazy narratives.

You have to look at the finished product before assuming OMG!!! We have no players left!

We have the MLE in which a decent role player who wants a ring will come. Think Oubre, Trent Jr, Nance, Simmons etc.

In this trade we sent out 3 M more than we take in which will give us something like 10-12 M to spend before hitting 2nd apron.

Delon Wirght and Shamet are likely back on vet minimums.

KAT(18)/Giannis(15)/Huk(15)
Giannis(18)/KAT(14)/OG(16)
OG(16)/MLE(20)/Shamet (11)
McBride(20)/Wright(16)/ MLE(8)/ Shamet (4)
Brunson (34)/McBride (10)/Wright (4)

.....With all that said I am taking the harder challenge of trying to do it without OG or KAT. Its Giannis so Knicks absolutely could trade anyone but Jalen in this deal. But it isnt 'gutting the team' in the sense that we couldn’t field a deep squad especially with a better coach.

That squad above is 9 deep. With McCullar , Dadiet and maybe that Nanji dude on the extended bench.


KAT getting traded to NY has to be one of the single most insufferable thing that could have happened to some Knicks fans.
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Post#1118 » by sol537 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:17 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/280903/Giannis-Antetokounmpo-Remains-Open-Minded-About-Future-Could-Decide-After-Bucks-Offseason-Moves

The language around Giannis remains extremely open ended. There is no commitment.

And what is Milwaukee realistically going to be able to pull off this offseason?

This is EXTREMELY interesting. Houston blew its load for a 50M dollar player already. Giannis is rumored to want to play in a big city. If Knicks get Kidd ....our roster, coaching and location is about as ideal as it gets for what he'd likely want in his next destination.

He is the type of player that has the gravity to dictate where he goes too.


Ok. How do we get Giannis in an unforseen future? KAT, or do we gut the team? I'm curious how you trade check this one. Don't forget, the Lakers get whatever they want in this league. Whenever they need it. For pennies on the dollar usually. We don't get that luxury.


You start with KAT. Then you sprinkle in Josh Hart. Then you add in Deuce and PJ Tucker's salary. You also throw in the WAS 1st, our next available 1st (after this coming draft on Thursday), a future 1st swap, and then five 2nd rounders. You get Giannis, Portis (player option 1 year), and Connaughton in return... Then you go and win a chip with Kidd at the helm and he has everyone pour cups of water on him for the celebration.
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Post#1119 » by Wildcat » Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:19 pm

stuporman wrote:Didn't a local(to Sac) media guy who has quite a bit of access to the Kings say that Monk and Brown didn't see eye to eye about his role and even were seen shouting at each other in practices a few times?

Doesn't sound like someone that the Knicks would want to acquire nor the player want to be acquired by.


Even if that was the case, the perception I've always gotten from Fox is, "Me, myself, and I".
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Post#1120 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:21 pm

sol537 wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/280903/Giannis-Antetokounmpo-Remains-Open-Minded-About-Future-Could-Decide-After-Bucks-Offseason-Moves

The language around Giannis remains extremely open ended. There is no commitment.

And what is Milwaukee realistically going to be able to pull off this offseason?

This is EXTREMELY interesting. Houston blew its load for a 50M dollar player already. Giannis is rumored to want to play in a big city. If Knicks get Kidd ....our roster, coaching and location is about as ideal as it gets for what he'd likely want in his next destination.

He is the type of player that has the gravity to dictate where he goes too.


Ok. How do we get Giannis in an unforseen future? KAT, or do we gut the team? I'm curious how you trade check this one. Don't forget, the Lakers get whatever they want in this league. Whenever they need it. For pennies on the dollar usually. We don't get that luxury.



You start with KAT. Then you sprinkle in Josh Hart. Then you add in Deuce and PJ Tucker's salary. You also throw in the WAS 1st, our next available 1st (after this coming draft on Thursday), a future 1st swap, and then five 2nd rounders. You get Giannis, Portis (player option 1 year), and Connaughton in return... Then you go and win a chip with Kidd at the helm and he has everyone pour cups of water on him for the celebration.


The WAS 1st is a fake 1st, most likely turns into two 2nds. It's going to take A LOT more to get Giannis when every team in the league would be in on him IF he decides to leave.

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