Official Melo Trade Thread: WOJ BOMB UPDATE PG 21: Will Waive NTC for HOU and CLE

[K_ick_God]

besides billy king? some of these guys are just straight up lazy with their references. sheesh. the situations aren't even remotely comparable, but we're supposed to be ok with the **** sandwiches they're offering us, as if it's any more plausible than asking a team, that at the very least will have an in his peak harden, for an unprotected first, no matter how much better their 'ship odds get by adding melo to a cp3+ harden equation.

i swear to god these motherf*ckers must beat off to rick from pawn stars.

But they got CP3 for a protected pick so it set the bar low.

[red96]

besides billy king? some of these guys are just straight up lazy with their references. sheesh. the situations aren't even remotely comparable, but we're supposed to be ok with the **** sandwiches they're offering us, as if it's any more plausible than asking a team, that at the very least will have an in his peak harden, for an unprotected first, no matter how much better their 'ship odds get by adding melo to a cp3+ harden equation.

i swear to god these motherf*ckers must beat off to rick from pawn stars.

Your misinformed. The earliest 1st round picks the Rockets can deal is their 2020 and 2022. Chris Paul is only under contract for 1 year. Harden is only under contract until 2018, with PO in 2019. Neither of them are guaranteed to be Rockets by 2020 or 2022. Trading unprotected picks that far into the future is Billy King-ish. Especially for a non-allstar Melo. CP3 didn't even get the Clippers an unprotected 1st. Carmelo isn't good enough to get Houston past the Warriors and I never said the Knicks have to take any deal from the Rockets. Melo was put on the market a couple years and controversies too late.

[Rotten Apple]

besides billy king? some of these guys are just straight up lazy with their references. sheesh. the situations aren't even remotely comparable, but we're supposed to be ok with the **** sandwiches they're offering us, as if it's any more plausible than asking a team, that at the very least will have an in his peak harden, for an unprotected first, no matter how much better their 'ship odds get by adding melo to a cp3+ harden equation.

i swear to god these motherf*ckers must beat off to rick from pawn stars.

Your misinformed. The earliest 1st round picks the Rockets can deal is their 2020 and 2022. Chris Paul is only under contract for 1 year. Harden is only under contract until 2018, with PO in 2019. Neither of them are guaranteed to be Rockets by 2020 or 2022. Trading unprotected picks that far into the future is Billy King-ish. Especially for a non-allstar Melo. CP3 didn't even get the Clippers an unprotected 1st. Carmelo isn't good enough to get Houston past the Warriors and I never said the Knicks have to take any deal from the Rockets. Melo was put on the market a couple years and controversies too late.

Melo was an All-Star last year, dont always have to slight him to make a point.

Continue.

[Marty McFly]

besides billy king? some of these guys are just straight up lazy with their references. sheesh. the situations aren't even remotely comparable, but we're supposed to be ok with the **** sandwiches they're offering us, as if it's any more plausible than asking a team, that at the very least will have an in his peak harden, for an unprotected first, no matter how much better their 'ship odds get by adding melo to a cp3+ harden equation.

i swear to god these motherf*ckers must beat off to rick from pawn stars.

But they got CP3 for a protected pick so it set the bar low.

chris paul was a free agent. what was the alternative for the clippers? getting nothing? the clippers chose not to do that. they also didn't have a bum like anderson pawned off on them.

[Marty McFly]

besides billy king? some of these guys are just straight up lazy with their references. sheesh. the situations aren't even remotely comparable, but we're supposed to be ok with the **** sandwiches they're offering us, as if it's any more plausible than asking a team, that at the very least will have an in his peak harden, for an unprotected first, no matter how much better their 'ship odds get by adding melo to a cp3+ harden equation.

i swear to god these motherf*ckers must beat off to rick from pawn stars.

Your misinformed. The earliest 1st round picks the Rockets can deal is their 2020 and 2022. Chris Paul is only under contract for 1 year. Harden is only under contract until 2018, with PO in 2019. Neither of them are guaranteed to be Rockets by 2020 or 2022. Trading unprotected picks that far into the future is Billy King-ish. Especially for a non-allstar Melo. CP3 didn't even get the Clippers an unprotected 1st. Carmelo isn't good enough to get Houston past the Warriors and I never said the Knicks have to take any deal from the Rockets. Melo was put on the market a couple years and controversies too late.

misinformed? no son, you just don't get it, so I'm going to spell it out for you once and only once, so you can go about your way regurgitated the same nonsense you and the other crotchrocket fans that come here have been doing.

1st thing first. do you honestly believe that chris paul wouldn't extend with the rockets if he got the chance to play with harden and melo? do you seriously believe he would bail on that? no you don't.

2.do you honestly believe that james harden is going to bail on the rockets,(like he wouldn't re up for a supermax) as soon as he gets the chance? no you don't.

3. do you honestly believe that "non-all star melo" wouldn't play better playing with both harden and cp3? if you honestly believe that, you are not a very smart man.

4. billy king traded away 3 UNPROTECTED (and a swap!) first round picks for two has beens. if you think anderson's bum ass and his albatross contract and a future unprotected first for melo is the same thing, you are not a smart man.

5. if you're under the impression that acquiring cp3 was morey's way of punting during the warriors era, and not a call to arms due to the arms race cause by the durant signing, you are not a very smart man.

[raferfenix]

Love to Bucks, Monroe's ending contracts + other assets to Knicks, Melo to Cavs?

Would vastly prefer to not sign and trade for Rose as part of this but based on that report it appears there are some talks at least between your team and ours.

[ozwizard8]

Love to Bucks, Monroe's ending contracts + other assets to Knicks, Melo to Cavs?

Would vastly prefer to not sign and trade for Rose as part of this but based on that report it appears there are some talks at least between your team and ours.

What are the other assets?
Monroe isnt an asset for anyone. We're rebuilding so its worthless for us.

3 way trade for Melo-Love makes sense but Knicks should get some assets for that trade.
I dont think we're desperately trying to trade him.

[ozwizard8]

besides billy king? some of these guys are just straight up lazy with their references. sheesh. the situations aren't even remotely comparable, but we're supposed to be ok with the **** sandwiches they're offering us, as if it's any more plausible than asking a team, that at the very least will have an in his peak harden, for an unprotected first, no matter how much better their 'ship odds get by adding melo to a cp3+ harden equation.

i swear to god these motherf*ckers must beat off to rick from pawn stars.

Your misinformed. The earliest 1st round picks the Rockets can deal is their 2020 and 2022. Chris Paul is only under contract for 1 year. Harden is only under contract until 2018, with PO in 2019. Neither of them are guaranteed to be Rockets by 2020 or 2022. Trading unprotected picks that far into the future is Billy King-ish. Especially for a non-allstar Melo. CP3 didn't even get the Clippers an unprotected 1st. Carmelo isn't good enough to get Houston past the Warriors and I never said the Knicks have to take any deal from the Rockets. Melo was put on the market a couple years and controversies too late.

Melo was an allstar and CP3 was FA.
Clippers didnt suppose to recieve anything for CP3. He can sign with any other team with no compensation.

Trading 2020-2022 unprotected picks doesnt make sense for Rockets i get that. Its too much for Melo.
At the end of the day Knicks would settle for lesser picks but we'll look for some kind of assets in return.

[dakomish23]

A deal from the trade board

Rockets Receive:
Carmelo Anthony

Thunder Receive:
Ryan Anderon

Knicks Receive:
Enes Kanter
Ryan Kelly
2nd round picks

Rockets add Carmelo.
Thunder add Anderson. I'm sure his contract will be the main objection here. I think he's a great fit next to Westbrook and PG13 and provides the spacing they need. In this case, they take on salary to improve the team. In this case they also aren't concerned about the Rockets improving.
Knicks add Kanter, the expectation is Kanter opts out. They save money and finally go full rebuild. This speaks more to Carmelo's trade value at this point.

Throw in one first and I think it's fair. Kanter is on a shorter deal than Anderson plus we get a 1st.

Not bad

[dakomish23]

It is looking increasingly unlikely for Melo to Houston because no third team will get involved to take Ryno off our hands.Knicks only realistic option is Love.

I think Anderson to OKC makes sense. They need the spacing for Russ PG and Adams

Melo for KLove isn't realistic. We'd have to add something

[WajaBawl]

It is looking increasingly unlikely for Melo to Houston because no third team will get involved to take Ryno off our hands.Knicks only realistic option is Love.

I think Anderson to OKC makes sense. They need the spacing for Russ PG and Adams

Melo for KLove isn't realistic. We'd have to add something

What about Melo + CLee for Love? CLee definitely an upgrade, especially defensively, over JR Smith and gives them even more depth. This is obviously assuming a third team is willing to take Love off our hands for a pick & assets.

[Side beard]

It is looking increasingly unlikely for Melo to Houston because no third team will get involved to take Ryno off our hands.Knicks only realistic option is Love.

I think Anderson to OKC makes sense. They need the spacing for Russ PG and Adams

Melo for KLove isn't realistic. We'd have to add something

What about Melo + CLee for Love? CLee definitely an upgrade, especially defensively, over JR Smith and gives them even more depth. This is obviously assuming a third team is willing to take Love off our hands for a pick & assets.

Do Knicks really need players in their prime while rebuilding?
Rather have some aging stars or players that can mentor young guys without taking their MP.

[Billy Goat]

It is looking increasingly unlikely for Melo to Houston because no third team will get involved to take Ryno off our hands.Knicks only realistic option is Love.

I think Anderson to OKC makes sense. They need the spacing for Russ PG and Adams

Melo for KLove isn't realistic. We'd have to add something

What about Melo + CLee for Love? CLee definitely an upgrade, especially defensively, over JR Smith and gives them even more depth. This is obviously assuming a third team is willing to take Love off our hands for a pick & assets.

I dont get the sense Cleveland wants to get rid of Love.

[WajaBawl]

I think Anderson to OKC makes sense. They need the spacing for Russ PG and Adams

Melo for KLove isn't realistic. We'd have to add something

What about Melo + CLee for Love? CLee definitely an upgrade, especially defensively, over JR Smith and gives them even more depth. This is obviously assuming a third team is willing to take Love off our hands for a pick & assets.

Do Knicks really need players in their prime while rebuilding?
Rather have some aging stars or players that can mentor young guys without taking their MP.

That's why I said it's assuming a third team is willing to trade for Love. I agree we have no use for him other than gaining assets, and I am fully on the tank train and want us to get a high pick for next years draft. People keep talking about how we have a great 'core", but looking at other teams, I just don't we're there yet and want us to get another bonafide stud to help out KP.

[WajaBawl]

I think Anderson to OKC makes sense. They need the spacing for Russ PG and Adams

Melo for KLove isn't realistic. We'd have to add something

What about Melo + CLee for Love? CLee definitely an upgrade, especially defensively, over JR Smith and gives them even more depth. This is obviously assuming a third team is willing to take Love off our hands for a pick & assets.

I don't get the sense Cleveland wants to get rid of Love.

If that's the case, what does Cleveland's pick situation look like? If we assume LeBron is leaving in 2018, and considering how the Cavs generally perform without him coupled with the fact that no free agent really wants to go and play in Cleveland, why not ask for future picks? If LeBron bolts, it's very likely that Kyrie and Love are gone as well and would mean the return of Cleveland as a lottery team. Kind of like how the Celtics anticipated the value of the Nets picks going forward.

Btw sorry for the broken English guys, not my native language.

[Worst_to_First]

It is looking increasingly unlikely for Melo to Houston because no third team will get involved to take Ryno off our hands.Knicks only realistic option is Love.

I think Anderson to OKC makes sense. They need the spacing for Russ PG and Adams

Melo for KLove isn't realistic. We'd have to add something

What about Melo + CLee for Love? CLee definitely an upgrade, especially defensively, over JR Smith and gives them even more depth. This is obviously assuming a third team is willing to take Love off our hands for a pick & assets.

Dealing Melo and CLee to the Cavs would probably entail us having to get back Shump in the trade to match salaries.

[Jeff Van Gully]

What about Melo + CLee for Love? CLee definitely an upgrade, especially defensively, over JR Smith and gives them even more depth. This is obviously assuming a third team is willing to take Love off our hands for a pick & assets.

I dont get the sense Cleveland wants to get rid of Love.

If that's the case, what does Clevelands pick situation look? If we assume LeBron is leaving in 2018, and considering how the Cavs generally perform without him coupled with the fact that no free agent really wants to go and play in Cleveland, why not ask for future picks? If LeBron bolts, it's very likely that Kyrie and Love are gone as well and would mean the return of Cleveland as a lottery team. Kind of like how the Celtics anticipated the value of the Nets picks going forward.

Btw sorry for the broken English guys, not my native language.

i'd be in.

[SelbyCobra]

I can't wait to read the leaked report of the haul the Knicks refused from Ainge for Melo.

[duetta]

Knicks needs a deal that brings back a SF. We can't go into next season with Lance Thomas as our SF. Tanking or no tanking.

Having to watch 82 games of Lance Thomas starting (like he would ever remain healthy for that long...) is the definition of cruel and unusual punishment.

[Billy Goat]

I can't wait to read the leaked report of the haul the Knicks refused from Ainge for Melo.

Betting man in me says Melo denies any trade proposals to force the Knicks hand.