2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 1)

[Zenzibar]

Watching lamelo has me ready to trade Knox both mavs firsts Dennis and anything not named rj and ideally Mitch, just to get another top 5 pick lol

this should be the idea, to trade acquired picks and players on rookie deals or short term contracts to double dip in the lottery in addition to wherever our own pick may fall

I’ve been screaming we do that since last year’s draft, we need multiple talent positions. Collect assets then use said assets to get specific assets.

This draft would be perfect for it.

Trade Randle, Morris, Knox and just try to get a decent pick(s) out of it. We just need more options.

Every draft has a unique talent lingering in the top five.
For the team to go all in the point guard heavy 2020 draft is short-sighted.

Lets get lucky, draft our point guard and keep the assets for a big trade down the line.

[stuporman]

Edwards .... Harden with hops and some defensive chops.
Wiseman... a stronger and longer Bagly
Ball.... Luka like
Cole.... good at everything yet not elite at anything but just a straight up baller

[knickstape4ever]

Read on Twitter

Thoughts on Obi Toppin? Knicks could probably use a stretch-4.

I'm kinda in favor of trading Morris at the deadline because he's just on a 1-year deal and there's a decent chance he could leave for nothing (tho I do really like Morris' game); I could definitely see a contending team give up a lottery protected 1st for him

[Richard4444]

We need 2 picks in the top 5. Anything is on the table but RJ, Mitch and Frank. Trade both Dallas FRPS and a pick swap next year with Trier and DSJR

LaMelo
Edwards
RJ
Mitch

Nobody gives a Top5 pick to take a bunch of unproven youngers and average/bad future picks. Nether NBA 2K Intelligence(?) Artificial makes that deal.

In the best scenario, they can trade down for a medium-late lottery pick (+ average picks/unproven youngers) if they fall in love for a prospect in that range.

[knickstape4ever]

any idea how tall Edwards actually is? I've seen him listed between 6-3 and 6-5

[JBreezeNY]

this should be the idea, to trade acquired picks and players on rookie deals or short term contracts to double dip in the lottery in addition to wherever our own pick may fall

I’ve been screaming we do that since last year’s draft, we need multiple talent positions. Collect assets then use said assets to get specific assets.

This draft would be perfect for it.

Trade Randle, Morris, Knox and just try to get a decent pick(s) out of it. We just need more options.

Every draft has a unique talent lingering in the top five.
For the team to go all in the point guard heavy 2020 draft is short-sighted.

Lets get lucky, draft our point guard and keep the assets for a big trade down the line.

Ehhh there’s good talent in the top 10 that isn’t just PG’s tho.

[Zenzibar]

I’ve been screaming we do that since last year’s draft, we need multiple talent positions. Collect assets then use said assets to get specific assets.

This draft would be perfect for it.

Trade Randle, Morris, Knox and just try to get a decent pick(s) out of it. We just need more options.

Every draft has a unique talent lingering in the top five.
For the team to go all in the point guard heavy 2020 draft is short-sighted.

Lets get lucky, draft our point guard and keep the assets for a big trade down the line.

Ehhh there’s good talent in the top 10 that isn’t just PG’s tho.

Doesn't matter. Trading away assets to dive into an unknown talent pool is not in any way good management.

You draft your spot well and use your assets for a 2021 free agent to be.

We have our core of Mitch, RJ, Frank and Knox, we're just missing our point guard.

At this juncture there's no need for depleting and gambling away our resources.

[3toheadmelo]

I like Edwards a lot but he is not this clear cut #1 like some people calling him to be. He’s now shooting 38% from the field, 29% from 3 and 68% from the line. Hopefully he improves

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[TheScout31]

I’ve been screaming we do that since last year’s draft, we need multiple talent positions. Collect assets then use said assets to get specific assets.

This draft would be perfect for it.

Trade Randle, Morris, Knox and just try to get a decent pick(s) out of it. We just need more options.

Every draft has a unique talent lingering in the top five.
For the team to go all in the point guard heavy 2020 draft is short-sighted.

Lets get lucky, draft our point guard and keep the assets for a big trade down the line.

Ehhh there’s good talent in the top 10 that isn’t just PG’s tho.

I mean, it is a PG heavy draft - Cole, Nico, Killian, Theo, Ball, Maxey, etc. Then you can add Ant as a combo G.

If the Knicks fall to 3, as of now, I'd heavily consider Isaac Okoro - I buy the shot and he'd be a great fit next to RJ and Frank on the wing.

Every draft has a unique talent lingering in the top five.
For the team to go all in the point guard heavy 2020 draft is short-sighted.

Lets get lucky, draft our point guard and keep the assets for a big trade down the line.

Ehhh there’s good talent in the top 10 that isn’t just PG’s tho.

Doesn't matter. Trading away assets to dive into an unknown talent pool is not in any way good management.

You draft your spot well and use your assets for a 2021 free agent to be.

We have our core of Mitch, RJ, Frank and Knox, we're just missing our point guard.

At this juncture there's no need for depleting and gambling away our resources.

Knox shouldn't be considered part of the core, IMO, and should be available for a first round pick...which might be difficult, because I know prevailing thoughts around the league are not very good surrounding Knox and his potential / future.

[TheScout31]

any idea how tall Edwards actually is? I've seen him listed between 6-3 and 6-5

I've heard he's a legit 6'5 in sneakers.

Read on Twitter

Thoughts on Obi Toppin? Knicks could probably use a stretch-4.

I'm kinda in favor of trading Morris at the deadline because he's just on a 1-year deal and there's a decent chance he could leave for nothing (tho I do really like Morris' game); I could definitely see a contending team give up a lottery protected 1st for him

Defense is a major issue and his age (22 during rookie year) will likely push him outside the lotto.

[Zenzibar]

Every draft has a unique talent lingering in the top five.
For the team to go all in the point guard heavy 2020 draft is short-sighted.

Lets get lucky, draft our point guard and keep the assets for a big trade down the line.

Ehhh there’s good talent in the top 10 that isn’t just PG’s tho.

I mean, it is a PG heavy draft - Cole, Nico, Killian, Theo, Ball, Maxey, etc. Then you can add Ant as a combo G.

If the Knicks fall to 3, as of now, I'd heavily consider Isaac Okoro - I buy the shot and he'd be a great fit next to RJ and Frank on the wing.

Ehhh there’s good talent in the top 10 that isn’t just PG’s tho.

Doesn't matter. Trading away assets to dive into an unknown talent pool is not in any way good management.

You draft your spot well and use your assets for a 2021 free agent to be.

We have our core of Mitch, RJ, Frank and Knox, we're just missing our point guard.

At this juncture there's no need for depleting and gambling away our resources.

Knox shouldn't be considered part of the core, IMO, and should be available for a first round pick...which might be difficult, because I know prevailing thoughts around the league are not very good surrounding Knox and his potential / future.

That's being trigger happy and short-sighted. Two traits that the Knicks have had for years.

Knox is DEFINATELY a core piece. He's a mere 20years old and has a strong man child body already.
Knox is obviously getting better at decision making as the game is decisively slowing own for him. Kevin's jumper is butter and significantly more accurate than last year. By age 22 Kevin Knox will be a bonifide 4 spot monster.

And you want to trade this? For what again?

[robillionaire]

draft people in the top 10 and then trade them for a late first or 2nd rounder if they aren't a great player by the time they turn 20. a real recipe for success

[TheScout31]

Ehhh there’s good talent in the top 10 that isn’t just PG’s tho.

I mean, it is a PG heavy draft - Cole, Nico, Killian, Theo, Ball, Maxey, etc. Then you can add Ant as a combo G.

If the Knicks fall to 3, as of now, I'd heavily consider Isaac Okoro - I buy the shot and he'd be a great fit next to RJ and Frank on the wing.

Doesn't matter. Trading away assets to dive into an unknown talent pool is not in any way good management.

You draft your spot well and use your assets for a 2021 free agent to be.

We have our core of Mitch, RJ, Frank and Knox, we're just missing our point guard.

At this juncture there's no need for depleting and gambling away our resources.

Knox shouldn't be considered part of the core, IMO, and should be available for a first round pick...which might be difficult, because I know prevailing thoughts around the league are not very good surrounding Knox and his potential / future.

That's being trigger happy and short-sighted. Two traits that the Knicks have had for years.

Knox is DEFINATELY a core piece. He's a mere 20years old and has a strong man child body already.
Knox is obviously getting better at decision making as the game is decisively slowing own for him. Kevin's jumper is butter and significantly more accurate than last year. By age 22 Kevin Knox will be a bonifide 4 spot monster.

And you want to trade this? For what again?

I'm against being short sighted as well, but Knox isn't all that. He has major defensive issues, isn't a playmaker, and is a poor version of a combo F because he's not long, strong, or physical enough for the 4 and isn't quick enough on defense to be a 3 (and lol at Fiz trying him at the 2 - watching him get burned by guys off screens is disgusting to watch).

He's not strong, though - not sure where that's coming from, nor has he ever played physically (this going back to HS). It's cool if we disagree, I'm simply willing to trade someone with a limited ceiling for another first round pick - the issue with what I want is I know teams aren't high on him due to his major finishing issues (23% around the rim in the HC, which is 1st percentile in Synergy lol), not a playmaker, poor defender, and the shooting is nowhere near good enough to negate the negative parts of his game. He's young, yes, but these are issues that have always been there.

[The-Power]

Cole Anthony seems like such an obvious draft pick for you guys. You need shooting, and he can shoot and has the best pedigree out of all top prospects in this regard. By far. You need a primary ball handler who can also thrive off the ball, and that is what Cole brings to the table at an elite level. You need someone who can lead and strives to win over anything else, and he has those traits more than Ball, Edwards or Wiseman. Also doesn't hurt that he'll not be bullied on defense despite his pedestrian size. He fits better than anybody else on your roster and he's up there as one of the most talented draft prospects as well.

[TheScout31]

Cole Anthony seems like such an obvious draft pick for you guys. You need shooting, and he can shoot and has the best pedigree out of all top prospects by far. You need a primary ball handler who can also thrive off the ball, and that is what Cole brings to the table. You need someone who can lead and strives to win over anything else, and he has those traits more than Ball, Edwards or Wiseman. Also doesn't hurt that he'll not be bullied on defense despite his pedestrian size. He fits better than anybody else on your roster and he's up there as one of the most talented draft prospects as well.

I don't think he's a deadeye shooter, but there is absolutely reason to buy him becoming a ++ one in time. I'd like to see more of a blend of his passing + shooting, because it seems like he's focusing on one or the other when he's on the court. He's had some really nice relocation plays so far that I've posted to Twitter.

Defensively, absolutely - he doesn't back down. On top of the competitiveness, he has also had some DAMN nice rotations off ball (that I also posted to Twitter, hah). He's older for a top pick, but he's definitely T1 and QB1 for PGS IMO right now.

The competitiveness between Cole and RJ would be nice to see, too.

[The-Power]

Cole Anthony seems like such an obvious draft pick for you guys. You need shooting, and he can shoot and has the best pedigree out of all top prospects by far. You need a primary ball handler who can also thrive off the ball, and that is what Cole brings to the table. You need someone who can lead and strives to win over anything else, and he has those traits more than Ball, Edwards or Wiseman. Also doesn't hurt that he'll not be bullied on defense despite his pedestrian size. He fits better than anybody else on your roster and he's up there as one of the most talented draft prospects as well.

I don't think he's a deadeye shooter, but there is absolutely reason to buy him becoming a ++ one in time. I'd like to see more of a blend of his passing + shooting, because it seems like he's focusing on one or the other when he's on the court. He's had some really nice relocation plays so far that I've posted to Twitter.

Defensively, absolutely - he doesn't back down. On top of the competitiveness, he has also had some DAMN nice rotations off ball (that I also posted to Twitter, hah). He's older for a top pick, but he's definitely T1 and QB1 for PGS IMO right now.

The competitiveness between Cole and RJ would be nice to see, too.

Yeah, he probably isn't a deadeye shooter yet but there are few on-ball Guards with such a high probability of becoming one when they enter college. The variety and difficulty in his 3's, his volume and his track-record of elite FT-shooting – you can't ask for better predictors at this point of a player's career. I agree also that he has to figure out the balance between playmaking and scoring mindsets a bit more; but the fact that he can already do both leads me to believe that this is just a matter of time and experience. He doesn't really have to add anything to become a more balanced player.

[HEZI]

I like Edwards a lot but he is not this clear cut #1 like some people calling him to be. He’s now shooting 38% from the field, 29% from 3 and 68% from the line. Hopefully he improves

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Is this y'all best player?

Buwahaha

Had to take a shot even though I like Edwards but you know what it is

[HEZI]

Cole Anthony seems like such an obvious draft pick for you guys. You need shooting, and he can shoot and has the best pedigree out of all top prospects in this regard. By far. You need a primary ball handler who can also thrive off the ball, and that is what Cole brings to the table at an elite level. You need someone who can lead and strives to win over anything else, and he has those traits more than Ball, Edwards or Wiseman. Also doesn't hurt that he'll not be bullied on defense despite his pedestrian size. He fits better than anybody else on your roster and he's up there as one of the most talented draft prospects as well.

Hire this guy for draft night

[god shammgod]

it's still cole world for me as well

[Zenzibar]

draft people in the top 10 and then trade them for a late first or 2nd rounder if they aren't a great player by the time they turn 20. a real recipe for success

Lol exactly!!!

The same clueless mentality that plagued the team pre-PJax.